anyone know of good rebuild shops in orlando, florida?

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well as the title suggests I am looking for credible shops to do my KA build-up for turbo. I am going to purchase the pistons and rods and need some one to teardown the block and clean and hone it, misc. machine work (balance the crank, Valve job) and rebuild it. Does anyone know of anybody that can do that in the central florida region?

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Miller Performance is the best shop around IMHO (407) 957 8957

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Rotary,

I had my turbo kit installed at "Miller Performance" by 2 unmentioned names not affialted with Miller Performance, however based on their shop quality and just all around junk-looking setup. I would NOT even call them... Keep looking for a decent, PROFESSIONAL shop, not some shack behind a redneck's house.

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Miller Performance also has a climate controlled engine building room along with a SuperFlo engine dyno...which apparently Daveee has never seen.

Don't judge a book by it's cover. MP is an excellent shop.

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I built a 498 hp RB20 in my driveway. I had to use my laundry room as parts storage area...boy was my wife pissed. Anyhow, back on topic.

My friend lives in Orlando, he's been building imports for the last 10 years. I'll shoot him a link to this thread and see if he has any idea's. He's a Toyota fan himself, but he's got some good knowledge.

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Admittingly, Miller Perf. is primarily a domestic engine machine shop. However, they are very open to the idea of working on import motors, and will not turn it down. And they are also very VERY knowledgable when it comes to turbo motors. They tend to strap turbos on everything they build. Whether it be 4 or 8 cylinders.

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thank guys for all your help it is much appreciated

best240sx whats a matter with you?

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Also check out ZTech. They specialize in Z cars, but I'm sure they would love to work on the 240. It's on 17-92 close to 434 somewhere, check it out.

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zachosz wrote:Also check out ZTech. They specialize in Z cars, but I'm sure they would love to work on the 240. It's on 17-92 close to 434 somewhere, check it out.


my friend owns a 91 ztt and they told him he needed a new block (did I mention thats $6k for a ZTT), he took it to a nissan dealership and they replaced some seals, problem fixed. I don't know the original cause that made him take it there, as in what the car was doing, but that's what I was told. That's enough to keep me from taking anything I own to that shop. Check out http://www.autotuner.org, if Larry can build 1000hp supra engines, I'm sure he can more than handle a KA-T, his price will be the cheapest too.

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Mark Miller (the owner) held the world's reacord for the fastest turbo motorcycle for 8 years in a row before he retired in the late 80's. If you look him up you'll also see he was the first guy to officially go 200mph in the quarter on a bike. He knows his stuff, I will admit the shop looks a bit ratty but the work they do is top notch.

On another note whatever you do DO NOT go to Rev-master, my buddy had them do all the prep work on his CA and the motor threw a rod within 2 weeks of him installing it. I've heard bad things about them from a few other shops around so I'd avoid them if I could.

later,

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working on bikes and working on cars is totally different. Someone who held records doesn't have to be smart, I've seen some stupid race car drivers that wouldn't be able to rebuild an engine, they'd be able to point out the parts, but not rebuilt it correctly. A shops cleanliness is a reflection of their abilities and work habits.

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I dunno what DaveEEE is talking about... I recently got my s10 blazer motor rebuilt by miller performance and spent alot of time there. These guys know exactly what they are doing!

Yes the place is not a 10k a month rental facility, but it is an organized shop. They have alot of extras and goodies laying around that can only benefit your rebuild. These guys are quick, presise as can be, and fairly inexpensive!

Their motor assembly room speaks for the shop... its very clean and organized... I didn't even recognize my motor when I came to pick it up! It was soo clean and I never thought it could look as good as it did. By all means they do some damn good quality work.

Take it from me... I seen and felt pauls motor after the rebuild, I got my motor done by them, and well, your hearing this from me, Shawn, the guy that rebuilt the KA 3+ times going from crappy machine shop to crappy machine shop....

Raul, the guy in charge there... has one hell of a backround from turbo imports to domestics, to marine, to everything... He knows whats needed to keep the motor together no matter what it is... and judging from the work I seen on my motor and the CA that paul had done... I couldn't recomend a better place.... I seriousely think they blow away all the machine shops I've been to, even topend performance in palm beach... the guys that put together the Mosler Auto road cars....

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240man wrote:Yes the place is not a 10k a month rental facility, but it is an organized shop. They have alot of extras and goodies laying around that can only benefit your rebuild. These guys are quick, presise as can be, and fairly inexpensive!

Their motor assembly room speaks for the shop... its very clean and organized... I didn't even recognize my motor when I came to pick it up! It was soo clean and I never thought it could look as good as it did. By all means they do some damn good quality work.
oh ok, theres a difference between what that other guy said about being a **** dump and just not being a nice place. Saying **** dump makes it sound unorganized and dirty. Theres no problem with the building not being the nicest though.

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thanks guys for all the replies again

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Where is Miller Performance located?

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Nismo1182 wrote:Where is Miller Performance located?


It's in St. Cloud.

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in kissimee, just south of orlando... sorta right off 192

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EZ Cheeze how are those Spec V seats? I have been looking for those seats in salvage yards and just cant find them. I think they would look tight in my 98 240... I guess i will have to wait until more people crash them dealer price 3,000 bucks!

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I am Technoman wrote:EZ Cheeze how are those Spec V seats? I have been looking for those seats in salvage yards and just cant find them. I think they would look tight in my 98 240... I guess i will have to wait until more people crash them dealer price 3,000 bucks!


Well, the seats have two sides. A good one and a bad one. The good side, is that they are EXTREMELY supportive. Very nice and firm with excellent side support. The only other factory Nissan seats I've ever ridden in that had better support was in a Skyline GT-R.

Now the bad thing...most people think they are ugly (I don't really have an opinion on this, I'm not crazy about them, nor do I dislike them). But the worse thing is that the bottom cushion will tend to fray if you sit in it with any pants with velcro on the back. Like if you have a velcro back pocket, over time, your seat will become kinda fuzzy. Dealer's replace this under warranty no problem, but that won't work for you! My brother had his replaced, and while I haven't replaced the ones in mine, they are frayed.

The '03 seats have been changed. They have the same shape/support but are a different material and color. They are silver where mine are red, and also a smoother material that looks like it won't fray. If you can find any '03's, I'd recommend them over the '02's.

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i like the color and design of the seats, the ugly thing about them is theyre huge. Theyre too damn thick, looks like a damn executives office chair, twice as thick as most car seats. Makes them look chubby.

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I liked the seats because of the color and my 240 is redso I think they would look cool in my ride...

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call titan motorsports and ask who builds their motors. their guy does good work and is not a bad price. he should refer the guy he uses. i am 16 hours away and if he is as good as they say he is, i am considering driving down there to get mine built by him. i just don't like my locals....they are the kind of people that you tell them what you want done, and they argue with you. even if i am wrong, why not just do what i want and charge me the extra money, you know?

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mojo22 wrote:....they are the kind of people that you tell them what you want done, and they argue with you. even if i am wrong, why not just do what i want and charge me the extra money, you know?


Maybe because they have a brain between their ears? Actually that's just the kind of people I like working in my car. The person that doesn't overcharges me and lets me know if I'm speaking out my *** :D

But anyway that's just my opinion

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You know, on Paul's car, he had worked out the dimensions he wanted on the new motor and took it to Miller Performance. They worked with him also and determined his dimensions would not be optimal, and adjusted them a little bit. Now *that* is a good shop. And I think we already heard how satisfied he is with the shop, after all....he recommended them in this thread.

And by no means am I saying only let MP work on your motor. I simply am saying that if you do have them build it then you won't regret it. I don't know how other shops match up, so the choice is yours.

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....they are the kind of people that you tell them what you want done, and they argue with you. even if i am wrong, why not just do what i want and charge me the extra money, you know? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Maybe because they have a brain between their ears? Actually that's just the kind of people I like working in my car. The person that doesn't overcharges me and lets me know if I'm speaking out my ***

i knew i would catch a little crap for saying that. what i meant was, i live in redneck central, where if it ain't a smallblock chevy they have no clue what you are talking about. most of the guys around here aren't into turbo cars or things of that nature....there are no true import/performance shops here. nowhere near here for that matter. you can buy an exhaust or an intake every block or so though.

my thinking was, if i know what i want, and know it will cost extra, then why not just do it? now, if a shop decided to add extra without my approval, then i would not be happy.

a friend of mine owns a nice steakhouse that is on the upper level of price range compared to most places. when he opened it he had several suppliers try and get his business. to each one he said "i want certified aged angus beef" most of them said "that is the most expensive, why don't you let me sell you brand X b/c if you prepare it right, you can't really tell the difference" ...."but i know what i want, and that is certified angus" he talked to people until one of the salesmen realized that hey, i am gonna make more money off this guy, he knows it and i know it, b/c he knows what he wants.

ya'll probably don't care about steaks, but my point is, if a person knows what they want, and they know they will have to pay more for it, then what is the point in arguing?

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mojo... no crap given :D

I was mainly refering to the "even if i am wrong" part. I definitely don't want to pay more if I'M wrong and the mechanic knows it. A good mechanic won't do ****ty/wrong work and then over charge you for it even if you keep asking for it (I know I wouldn't if I was a mechanic), it's called work ethics and good advertisement for the shop, now those are hard to come by :D

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ok, instead of "if i am wrong"......"if i am wrong in his opinion"

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:D

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i'm just looking for a sjop to put some forged rods and pistons in, so obviously they will have to hone and clean the block, but also balance the crank. around how much should i b e looking at for the laobr and machinework?

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call and ask for Rawl, he'll tell you the number is 407 957 8957


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