Anyone in WI know how to register a car "sold" to someone else under buyer?

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zerepdivad
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OK here is what i got going on.....I bought a car for my girlfriend (97 eclipse) and apparently the guy we bought it from never registered it, nor did the guy before him. ANd the title was already signed and dated, and the dmv will not let me register it because of that. I googled and whatnot this guys name and address that's on the title but to no avail. DMV won't give me any contact info, nor will the police station... they told me i had to find it on my own, and have him write a bill of sale to me. kind of lost at this point.His address and name from the title is

Daniel Lemus3907 W. Wellington AveChicago Illinios 60618-7222

From my research it's likely that he's an illegal alien because the address when i looked it up housed like 10 different names having lived in it all with the last name gomez, gonzales, etc. I'm mexican so please no racial remarks necessary!Basically it seems like theres going to be no way for me to find this guy if he is indeed an illegal. Which seems like it because i can't find much contact info for the guy at all. We tried just crossing off the other "buyers" name on th title and putting my girls name and whatnot on there but it did us no good. DMV just told us we had to find the guy on the title and get him to write something saying he sold it to us.


Modified by zerepdivad at 12:35 AM 3/25/2010


mrodrig2
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1) regardless of the situation, you shouldn't post someone's info on a public board like that.2) hire someone, i.e. a PI, or find a friend or tip someone that can get the info for you in an 'unconventional' manner3) get it registered/retitled out of state through a friend then have them resell it to you in WI

None of these except #1 is actual advice and I take no responsibility for you trying #2 or #3. You honestly have no easy options if you can't find this guy.

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Eikon
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Obviously the guy who's name he posted no longer lives at that address, so it doesn't matter if he posted it online... seems like nobody can find him anyhow.

I think the proper thing to do would be to get a PI hired in Chicago to try to track the guy down.

The improper thing to do would be to forge a new bill of sale from the guy.

Here's what I would do... Take the car back to the guy you just bought it from. Tell him it's illegal to sell a car that he doesn't have title for. Tell him to refund you in full or you'll call the authorities on him. Tell him it's his responsibility to get a title for the car and if he can do that, then you'll buy the car from him.


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Saying he doesn't live there is just an assumption. Even if he doesn't live there, what if this causes problems for the current residents? Regardless of someone's apparent long history on a forum, you just never really know why they are asking for info and personal information shouldn't be allowed to be displayed like this unless it is your own and you post it willingly. Just my opinion.

Don't bother with forging, I think you need to provide ID either with the application or when you pick up the title.

Eikon is right though, in WI it is the seller's responsibility to provide a valid title. Since the title wasn't in the seller's name and he apparently doesn't have power of attorney from the named person, the purchase isn't a legal transaction. You can try to get your money back.

If for some reason you really want the car:The car is old enough that it can be sold for parts without the title. You can then purchase a really cheap shell that is title-able, "swap" over the parts, sell off the "old shell," and then title the "new repaired" car. If you catch my drift.

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zerepdivad
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We're actually just gonna try and trace back owners. The guy we got it from knows the guy who's name is on the title as "buyer" so we're likely gonna just have him title it, then "sell" it to me. Just gotta get around to going down to chicago this weekend, and meeting with the guy to arrange everything.


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