Anyone here have MB Quart Comps, What Comps are you all running anyways?

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So i am curious, i have been staring at car audio for a long time just teasing myself with things i can't really afford right now. In the end, i know i want to upgrade to something better than my stock system now, i dont have bose so in a way it makes things a bit easier. I have been looking at MB Quarts, i know they were good before maxxonics took them over, anyone know what they are like now? I am looking to buy online when i do so i can get a better price, i know how to install them so thats not a problem. As much as i would love to have 500-1000 bux a set comps, i would never bring myself to do it. I was looking about 200-250 max for comps, speakers about 100watts a channel at 4ohms as i would probably get a sundown 4 channel amp at 100watts a channel. Any recommendations? I dont know what the stock altis have wattage wise, i know fronts are 6.5 comps, rear doors are midbass woofers im assuming, 6.5"? and rears are 6x9's which i would change to accomodate small woofers to handle the lows since the rear doors would have a comp set of their own.

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edit:am i missing something, i have a 2.5s with stock audio, i believe i still have speakers in the rear door? is that bose only or no?

Edit:Found out, there is no speaker in the rear door but they still have the grills and stuff which is awesome since it willmaking adding anything alot easier!Modified by SuBXeRo at 12:37 AM 9/22/2009

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SuBXeRo wrote:So i am curious, i have been staring at car audio for a long time just teasing myself with things i can't really afford right now. In the end, i know i want to upgrade to something better than my stock system now, i dont have bose so in a way it makes things a bit easier. I have been looking at MB Quarts, i know they were good before maxxonics took them over, anyone know what they are like now? I am looking to buy online when i do so i can get a better price, i know how to install them so thats not a problem. As much as i would love to have 500-1000 bux a set comps, i would never bring myself to do it. I was looking about 200-250 max for comps, speakers about 100watts a channel at 4ohms as i would probably get a sundown 4 channel amp at 100watts a channel. Any recommendations? I dont know what the stock altis have wattage wise, i know fronts are 6.5 comps, rear doors are midbass woofers im assuming, 6.5"? and rears are 6x9's which i would change to accomodate small woofers to handle the lows since the rear doors would have a comp set of their own.

Speak yee minds!!!!!!

edit:am i missing something, i have a 2.5s with stock audio, i believe i still have speakers in the rear door? is that bose only or no?

Edit:Found out, there is no speaker in the rear door but they still have the grills and stuff which is awesome since it willmaking adding anything alot easier!Modified by SuBXeRo at 12:37 AM 9/22/2009

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MB Quartz: yes, they use to be pretty good.. I have a set of their PCE 210 components from BEFORE they were taken over.... now I think they are made in China, but they sound AWFUL.... stay away from any of their new stuff

I am running Diamond Audio S600A 6.5" midbass from their components... but I'm running an active crossover system using the iweeters and 4" midrange from the old MB Quartz and the 6.5" midrange/midbass from diamond... I'm about to switch out my MB quart tweeters for the diamond tweeters when I re-do my a-pillars

as far as your rear doors... you don't have speakers in the rear doors.. you have the holes for them, but there are no speakers there... Nissan is lazy/cheap .. not even the sedans with BOSE have speakers in the rear doors

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The bose should have them in the rear door, why would they put them in if they didnt? Not to start a fight but it doesnt make sense otherwise.

What makes the mb quarts sound bad? just poor sound quality? bad bass response? harsh tweeters? I was looking at the PVI 216's and PVI 164 midbass addon. Its their premium line, the other stuff they have look meh to me.

Do any of you put components in your rear decks?

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OOOKaaay, let me explain one more time. The Nissan Altima with BOSE has nine speakers (both sedan and coupe) 2 x 6.5" front midbass, 3 x 3.5" tweeters/midrange speakjers in the dash, 2x 6x9" midbass woofers in the rear deck, and 2 x 3.5" tweeters in the rear deck.

For proper imaging, having speakers in the rear doors is not necessary. People confuse LOUD with sound quality.. the two are NOt interchangable... the factory rear deck speakers are important because they are the car's source of midbass.... but in a properly tuned system, the rear speakers are not really necessary... just used for rear fill... so components in the rear deck, while they could work, are overkill for a properly tuned system

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I can confirm that the bose system in the 4 door does have speakers in the rear doors because my bosses wife's car has it and i was in it today, so the bose system does in fact have speakers in the rear door.

Aside from that, I was just curious to see what people were doing with their rear decks in a case like this, keeping woofers for the lows or going full range and how each would affect someone in the rear seat.

Optimally, subs in the trunk work out well because they are very omnidirectional compared to woofers in a rear deck where the people in the backseat would hear this very clearly since its aimed right at them.

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SuBXeRo wrote:I can confirm that the bose system in the 4 door does have speakers in the rear doors because my bosses wife's car has it and i was in it today, so the bose system does in fact have speakers in the rear door.

Aside from that, I was just curious to see what people were doing with their rear decks in a case like this, keeping woofers for the lows or going full range and how each would affect someone in the rear seat.

Optimally, subs in the trunk work out well because they are very omnidirectional compared to woofers in a rear deck where the people in the backseat would hear this very clearly since its aimed right at them.
i just checked the field service manual, and you're correct, the Sedan has speakers in the rear door, but does NOT have the extra tweeters up near the 6x9 like the coupe BOSE system does... this allows them both to only have 9 speakers

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i figured as much with the tweets in the rear door, i was trying to figure out where i would add them. I decided that when i do buy speakers they are gonna be rainbow slc 265.5 ngs. Tweeters in the rear doors would be nice its just the location of where i want them to go, optimally closer to the woofer would be good but i might end up just putting woofers only back there as my amp can do a 6 channel tri mode for a 4 channel amp which is the sundown 100.4 amp. I would just then add comps to the rear deck as thats easier to drill a tweeter hole for.

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MB Quartz: yes, they use to be pretty good.. I have a set of their PCE 210 components from BEFORE they were taken over.... now I think they are made in China, but they sound AWFUL.... stay away from any of their new stuff
It figures MB Quart would go to crap after being bought by Rockford. I had a set of their 6.5" comps from '93 and they were the best door mid I have ever owned. Far better than the JL XR650-CSI's I had in my Maxima (and the Alpine SPX-177a's that I installed in another car).

What a shame....

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It figures MB Quart would go to crap after being bought by Rockford. I had a set of their 6.5" comps from '93 and they were the best door mid I have ever owned. Far better than the JL XR650-CSI's I had in my Maxima (and the Alpine SPX-177a's that I installed in another car).

What a shame....
That rumor is all over the internet, but Maxxsonics is the owner of MB Quart now, not Rockford... and yes, they use to be great, but now, they are crap!

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im pissed that they have gone down the drains. I had read a couple reviews that said they were too bad and MQ Quart was always known to be good home audio. Just sux in the end.

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That rumor is all over the internet, but Maxxsonics is the owner of MB Quart now, not Rockford... and yes, they use to be great, but now, they are crap!
Wonderful.....

I still have some of the "good" gear. The 6.5" woofers from '93 are dead and gone but I still have a set of the neo tweeters, HX25 tweeters and 2-way MusicComp Xovers.

Back in the day, a stereo trifecta consisted of MB Quart mids/tweets, JL subs and PPI amps.

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Wonderful.....

I still have some of the "good" gear. The 6.5" woofers from '93 are dead and gone but I still have a set of the neo tweeters, HX25 tweeters and 2-way MusicComp Xovers.

Back in the day, a stereo trifecta consisted of MB Quart mids/tweets, JL subs and PPI amps.
I'm not even old enough to fullt appreciate that setup.. but I got into the car audio world around '98, and got serious about 5 years ago... I heard nothing but rave reviews about the old MB Quart stuff, and last year, I literally grabbed the last set of German made stiuff that my audio company still had in inventory... they got the new stuff in, and were serverly disappointed.. and every prmium audio shop taht I know of here in San Diego/la Jolla no longer carries MB Quart.... sad to see such a great business like that tank, but hey... everything changes I guess

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Old Quart stuff was solid. My 6.5" mids were in great shape when I pulled them but they sat around in a humid garage for a few years and one of them was having problems when I tried to use them again. Not sure if humidity had much to do with it but they were working fine when pulled.

I've used a lot of gear over the years including the original Orion 15's from the late 80's to numerous original MTX Terminators to RF seperates (when RF sold true mid/mid-bass high-end drivers....I had two 5.25" mid-bass in each door at one time) to USAmps hi-current (alternative to Orion HCCA's). Even ran a couple of Adcom amps that were 1/4-ohm stable and would work at a dead short.

My favorite setup consisted of a Rockford PA1-HD pre-amp, AudioControl 4xs Xover, a/d/s PH15 amp pushing the MB Quart separates and mixture of RF 5.25" midbass w/ Quart tweeters in the rear, PPI A600 amp pushing a single JL Audio 12w6. The below pic shows the trunk setup before I added the PH15 and eventually a Carver/KLW Phantom Bass processor (similar to the AudioControl Epicenter)


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audtatious wrote:Old Quart stuff was solid. My 6.5" mids were in great shape when I pulled them but they sat around in a humid garage for a few years and one of them was having problems when I tried to use them again. Not sure if humidity had much to do with it but they were working fine when pulled.

I've used a lot of gear over the years including the original Orion 15's from the late 80's to numerous original MTX Terminators to RF seperates (when RF sold true mid/mid-bass high-end drivers....I had two 5.25" mid-bass in each door at one time) to USAmps hi-current (alternative to Orion HCCA's). Even ran a couple of Adcom amps that were 1/4-ohm stable and would work at a dead short.

My favorite setup consisted of a Rockford PA1-HD pre-amp, AudioControl 4xs Xover, a/d/s PH15 amp pushing the MB Quart separates and mixture of RF 5.25" midbass w/ Quart tweeters in the rear, PPI A600 amp pushing a single JL Audio 12w6. The below pic shows the trunk setup before I added the PH15 and eventually a Carver/KLW Phantom Bass processor (similar to the AudioControl Epicenter)
Have you given any thought to the audison bitone???? if you haven't you should definitely check it out... it is the single best DSP/EQ/Xover unit out there right now...

I just sold my Audio Control DQXS and bought this... best single car audio investment I've made to date!

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I don't know if you're still looking but I have some MB Quartz components. Drop me a line if you're interested and i'll get you all the info. on them. They've never been installed and are still in box.

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Have you given any thought to the audison bitone???? if you haven't you should definitely check it out... it is the single best DSP/EQ/Xover unit out there right now...

I just sold my Audio Control DQXS and bought this... best single car audio investment I've made to date!
You know, I've kinda gotten tired of messing with audio at this point. Everything is sitting around on shelves or in boxes right now and I have no plans to upgrade the factory systems in the G's.

Old age sux. I used to have such frustrating fun messing with car audio.

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You know, I've kinda gotten tired of messing with audio at this point. Everything is sitting around on shelves or in boxes right now and I have no plans to upgrade the factory systems in the G's.

Old age sux. I used to have such frustrating fun messing with car audio.
... i'm oh so sure I'll get there soon... it'll be nice to one dy just hve a regular setup and not mess with all of this extra crap...

as far as factory audio setups go, the Mark Levinson setup in the Lexus SC 430 is one of the most finely tuned factory setups I have ever heard!

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I actually enjoy the new factory setup in the G's

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audtatious wrote:I actually enjoy the new factory setup in the G's
the Bose in the G37 is definitely much better than the setup in the A/C... but it still falls a bit short compared to the Mark Levinson... just for sh*ts and giggles, you should go take an sc 430 for a test drive, and throw in an audiophile / vocal cd and listen... unreal sound!

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iv got an older set of mb quart components, they sound great. I think they are RCE 216, im not sure though.

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:OOOKaaay, let me explain one more time. The Nissan Altima with BOSE has nine speakers (both sedan and coupe) 2 x 6.5" front midbass, 3 x 3.5" tweeters/midrange speakjers in the dash, 2x 6x9" midbass woofers in the rear deck, and 2 x 3.5" tweeters in the rear deck.

For proper imaging, having speakers in the rear doors is not necessary. People confuse LOUD with sound quality.. the two are NOt interchangable... the factory rear deck speakers are important because they are the car's source of midbass.... but in a properly tuned system, the rear speakers are not really necessary... just used for rear fill... so components in the rear deck, while they could work, are overkill for a properly tuned system

Do you know how to get to the tweeters in the rear deck of the Coupe? I've replaced the 6X9 but cannot find a way to the tweeters.


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