Anyone have staggered tires on the 04 sedan?

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Will these staggered tires work for the 2004 sport sedan:

225/55/17 front 235/55/17 rear

Has anyone tried this? Any foreseeable problems with with respect to odometer (I realize it will be off, but will computer read the staggered approach and raise red flags when I drive-- make beeping noise, flashing internal lights, etc.)? Will the rear tires rub when weighed down with 4 passengers?

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Is the factory size 215? If so, the 225s should be fine but the 235 might be pushing it for width (muffin top... ha ha ha). Also, most staggered tires have different ratios so the outside tire diameter is similar is size. Example; 225-45-18 F and 245-40-18 rear. I would suggest one of the following;

215-55-17 F, 225-50-17 R225-50-17 F, 235-45-17 R

Does this sound right guys?Or would it be better to increase with by 20mm before you change the ratio? i.e.215-55-17 F, 235-50-17 R
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I think I need to do a tire size write up for you guys.

Let's take this arbitrary size for an example:

225/40/19

The first number (225) is the width of the tread in mm (divide by 10 for centimeters and divide by 2.54 for inches)

The second number is called the aspect ratio. It is the height expressed as a percentage of the width. So in this case 40% of 225 = 90mm

The last number is the inner diameter of the tire (rim size). You will some times see letter next to the rim size. These denote tire type (R for radial) and speed rating. (Z, Y, W...etc).

I DO NOT suggest you go staggered on your Sedan. We coupe owners have to deal with short lived tires all of the time because we can't rotate our tires. Why would you put yourself in that perdictament?

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For the same reason they come stock on the coupe, new sedan and most high performance cars... performance and because they look bad a$$

So if you do the math, 215-55-17F and 235-50-17R have nearly the same outside diameter. Might double check if 235 wide will still fit on the rims though...

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g35sedanlover wrote:For the same reason they come stock on the coupe, new sedan and most high performance cars... performance and because they look bad a$$
*Blinks repeatedly*

Staggered 17s on a G sedan look badass huh?

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I'd say the 18 staggered looks good pretty sweet on the 07 4dr (rear shot with those wide tires), anyone else back me up on this?

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i just put 20's on my car 8.5 all the way around. thats what but,er tire recommended. and for the price of the tire to fit a 20 inch rim, i will deff be sticking same all the way around and rotating. stagered doesnt do much to the looks anyways....just my .000002 cents

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If you put 225 in the front and 235 in the rear you wont be able to visually tell that the rear is wider than the front. If you want to upgrade the width just do 225 or 235 all the way around. Make sure 235 can properly fit on the 17x7 rim you get on the sedan.

Keep in mind that it is the Rim that gives you the wide look, and not the tire. Tire will flex sideways depending on the rim size.

Not to mention if you get 235/55 you will loose performance since your tire will be taller overall.

I have staggered Coupe OEM rims, 19x8 in the front, 8.5 in the rear and I love the look.

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Sentientbydesign wrote:I think I need to do a tire size write up for you guys.

Let's take this arbitrary size for an example:

225/40/19

The first number (225) is the width of the tread in mm (divide by 10 for centimeters and divide by 2.54 for inches)

The second number is called the aspect ratio. It is the height expressed as a percentage of the width. So in this case 40% of 225 = 90mm

The last number is the inner diameter of the tire (rim size). You will some times see letter next to the rim size. These denote tire type (R for radial) and speed rating. (Z, Y, W...etc).

I DO NOT suggest you go staggered on your Sedan. We coupe owners have to deal with short lived tires all of the time because we can't rotate our tires. Why would you put yourself in that perdictament?
Thanks for your well thought out response. I've understood the dimensions you speak of for decades.... so I'm good on that end. I'm getting about 40-45K miles on the tires and this has been w/o rotation, so this should hopefully not be the issue, although the primary reason (not the only one of course) coupe owners chew through tires as they do is not due to not being able to rotate them but due to their driving habits. Do you have any ideas about tire size though, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Will 235/55's fit in the back w/o sticking out or rubbing?
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I had 17x7 on my I30 and 225s fit perfectly. The extra .4" in width of a 235 isn't going to put you over the edge.

The real problem with us coupe owners and our tires is three fold. We can't rotate them, there aren't many options for higher treadwear tires, and we sit lower than you do, so our front camber is always against us (except in turns!!!).

Tirerack, mentions an optional tire size of 235/50/17. The height difference is 1/20th of a inch (your tread varies more than that).

I would go with those all the way around!!!

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Sentientbydesign wrote:I had 17x7 on my I30 and 225s fit perfectly. The extra .4" in width of a 235 isn't going to put you over the edge.

The real problem with us coupe owners and our tires is three fold. We can't rotate them, there aren't many options for higher treadwear tires, and we sit lower than you do, so our front camber is always against us (except in turns!!!).

Tirerack, mentions an optional tire size of 235/50/17. The height difference is 1/20th of a inch (your tread varies more than that).

I would go with those all the way around!!!
Thanks... this is what I was looking for. My real issue is to maximize height and not width per se. Adding a taller tire will, of course, reduce rotations per mile (since speed and power mean little to me), which may increase mpg. In all of my cars I've over-sized. In my Volvo 240 sedan (1992) I went from the standard 185/70's to 225/70,s- 4 sizes larger. I gained about 1-2mpg and lost about 20hp, which is not good for a car with <120hp to begin with. Lesson learned. Good info, again, thanks and also, thanks to the other folks who answered. If there's more info, please post it so I can read it.

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If you just want to maximize height, then no reason to go staggered.

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This is a topic that has surfaced a lot in the past few months and i'm sure will come up again...

I believe 245 is the largest you can on the front (without problems) and 275 in the rear.

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tollboothwilley wrote:This is a topic that has surfaced a lot in the past few months and i'm sure will come up again...

I believe 245 is the largest you can on the front (without problems) and 275 in the rear.
I don't think you can put 245 or 275 on a 7" rim...


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