anyone ever try E3 spark plugs ???

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my instructor was talking about spark plugs today and he said something about E3 spark plugs .... I was wondering if anyone ever run them?

I searched google and saw a lot of pros but just wondering if anyone here ever try them ....


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nope. i would only run NGK. ever.

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^^^ thats what i always use too ..... but until i heard E3 ... im kinda convinced ... idk ... i might try it after im done with my rebuilt .... anyone else???

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you could try it. never know until you try.

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NGK for life dude.

E3 is just another marketing gimmick.


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mrgreeneyes wrote:e3 is just another marketing gimmick.
just like spitfire plugs. they suck.

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xX RB Xx wrote:
just like spitfire plugs. they suck.
they don't sell the e3's for the ka anyway, so you'd have to figure something out.

But I picked them up for my z32, it honestly made a world of difference, though the plugs in them before where destroyed, I'd use them again, Not one problem everr.

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Future_gohan wrote:they don't sell the e3's for the ka anyway, so you'd have to figure something out.
pepboys sells them ....

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http://www.sparkplugs.com/resu...09035

$5.95 a plug. not worth it.

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LOVERboy wrote:my instructor was talking about spark plugs today and he said something about E3 spark plugs .... I was wondering if anyone ever run them?

I searched google and saw a lot of pros but just wondering if anyone here ever try them ....
you ever hear that current takes the path of least resistance? so if you get e3 spark plugs which have 3 ground electrodes but only one center electrode, wouldnt the spark still only go to one ground electrode?

just stick w/ ngk iridiums

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I have a little of a bad impression with the ngk iridium's.

I installed some and noticed a slight power loss. I pulled them out to recheck/regap them to .44 and still the same result. I went with the autolight platinum's and and it went back to what it felt like before the ngk's.

I tried them one more time after that and noticed the same thing again.

I stuck them in my stock SOHC KA

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locoluna825 wrote:I have a little of a bad impression with the ngk iridium's.

I installed some and noticed a slight power loss. I pulled them out to recheck/regap them to .44 and still the same result. I went with the autolight platinum's and and it went back to what it felt like before the ngk's.

I tried them one more time after that and noticed the same thing again.

I stuck them in my stock SOHC KA
you silly fool.

COPPERS son, COPPERS.

get that iridium crap out of here. no platinum either.

ugh.

uuuugh.

rookies

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I think they were talking about iridiums for like SRs, CAs...

I have some experience with those E3 plugs, they just suck after 300miles....bad

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safin wrote: I think they were talking about iridiums for like SRs, CAs...

I have some experience with those E3 plugs, they just suck after 300miles....bad
he said "stock SOHC"

so not an SR, CA....

carry on

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safin wrote: I think they were talking about iridiums for like SRs, CAs...

I have some experience with those E3 plugs, they just suck after 300miles....bad
sr use coil packs... now i dont know much about sr's or coil packs nor have i ever even seen a damn coil pack....but im assuming they are completely different things and that you cant stick a spark plug in a sr......

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Klits562 wrote:sr use coil packs... now i dont know much about sr's or coil packs nor have i ever even seen a damn coil pack....but im assuming they are completely different things and that you cant stick a spark plug in a sr......
Learn something new today - SR and coil packs equipped cars do not use spark plugs... You need to shut the hell up, do more research for your knowledge before you talk again. A quick read in SR section and you will find SR needs spark plugs just like any other gasoline engines besides diesel engines.

But yeah, your car is not going to blow up with E3 plugs, so just try them out.
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^^^Wait, wait, engines that don't use spark plugs? I'm not too sure that's what your trying to explain.Also you said SR and coil pack equipped cars don't use use spark plugs.......and then you you turned around and said an SR does use spark plugs.
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dude jesstang was being sarcastic. of COURSE sr uses spark plugs. pretty much every internal combustion engine (that isnt a diesel) uses a spark plug.

coppers ftw!!! (on sr20 at least)

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Every gasoline powered mass-produced internal combustion engine uses spark plugs.
brndck wrote:coppers ftw!!! (on sr20 at least)
On a stock sr yes, heavily modified and/or running crap loads of boost (this holds true for most engines) spend the extra money for a set of iridium plugs, you'll thank yourself when you aren't pulling them out every few thousand miles to clean them to clear up a miss or stumble.

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>_> so much talk of plugs... its all hype imo.

we ran a test because of course we were bored! and saw no difference between generic, e3, platinum, etc etc...

BUT if you want go ahead and spend those extra dollars on plugs instead of parts

edit:And if you have to pull your plugs (other then your regular scheduled maintenance) to clean them every thousand miles then you should get a better tune...

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F**K bosch multi tips and e3's.

Id addition to all the arguments above, the multiple tips get in the way of the combustion that starts at the spark. The bosch +4's have to be the worst design ever and yet they are the most popular of the oddball plugs.

Just stick with nice simple NGK coppers. You can buy several sets of coppers to replace iridiums/plats, that way if theres a problem its cheaper to trouble shoot and you don't grenade a expensive plug when you have fuel problems.

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24j0hn wrote:you ever hear that current takes the path of least resistance? so if you get e3 spark plugs which have 3 ground electrodes but only one center electrode, wouldnt the spark still only go to one ground electrode?
Exactly, you're not going to defy physics. Even though I have Bosch Platinum 2's, just in case one of the electrodes fail. I know only 1 electrode is getting the spark. No reason to have 3 electrodes or 4 like Bosch Platinum 4's. I have a SOHC and don't really care what's in it, and using it as a guinea pig.

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SirSilvia wrote:
Exactly, you're not going to defy physics. Even though I have Bosch Platinum 2's, just in case one of the electrodes fail. I know only 1 electrode is getting the spark. No reason to have 3 electrodes or 4 like Bosch Platinum 4's. I have a SOHC and don't really care what's in it, and using it as a guinea pig.
ground electrodes dont really fail, they are just attached to the shell which is threaded onto the engine ground... the only way the electrode wont work is if it falls off from really bad detonation damage, and i mean a bad enough wave to make the electrode fall off from the force..

another problem w/ 1,2,3,and four ground electrodes is its almost ungappable... so if it has the wrong gap you really cant do anything about it and your out of luck... so if your running a ka-t where gap is .028 there is nothing you can do with those e3's

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zer0faith wrote:edit:And if you have to pull your plugs (other then your regular scheduled maintenance) to clean them every thousand miles then you should get a better tune...
If you are fouling plugs every 1000 miles yes you should get a better tune, but for guys making lots of power and/or running crap tons of boost its not uncommon for them to foul a set of copper plugs every 5-10k miles.

Higher powered turbo engines are always tuned a little rich for safety(I shoot for mid 11 afr's under heavy load and 13-14.9 for light loads and cruising), a result of this is that plugs tend to foul out on a more regular basis, iridium plugs are much more resistant to fouling than copper and will also last much longer under the conditions found in the combustion chamber of higher hp turbo engines.

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i tried them in sohc KA, started the car and had a severe misfire and smoke coming up from the valve cover, u put my old champion plugs back in and it ran like a dream, i went and returned them and bought NGK direct replacements and the car runs like a champ

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kouki munster wrote:Higher powered turbo engines are always tuned a little rich for safety(I shoot for mid 11 afr's under heavy load and 13-14.9 for light loads and cruising), a result of this is that plugs tend to foul out on a more regular basis, iridium plugs are much more resistant to fouling than copper and will also last much longer under the conditions found in the combustion chamber of higher hp turbo engines.
That is true but gaping the plug hotter or colder should do the trick. To each his own though!

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LOVERboy wrote:
pepboys sells them ....
Oh, when i checked advance they didn't have them, atleast for my ka-t, which i use different plugs anyway.

either way, i'm for them.


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Currently using these in my beater Subaru. Notice a huge difference in cold starts. They feel very similar to cooper except they last alot longer. I did pick up a minor mpg gain. (3) Idle is alot smoother then the ngk iridians it replaced.


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