Anyone else think this is ridiculous?

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I think you have a good idea, but from the looks of the new concepts, i think there going in a completly different direction. Almost like strictly vq's from now on.


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arr rook same

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waiting to see if scion pulls a RWD out of their a**, along with their heads.

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I'm not too concerned about what they do to it as long as it's still light, manual, RWD and doesn't look like an Altima rehash. It still has to be tuneable as hell, though. ^_^ VQ engine would be nice but it'd likely add weight and cost; if they could do it while keeping it close to the s15 in terms of handling I'd be fine with it but I'd be just as happy with a legal SR20 DE/VE (T). RB wouldn't be bad either except for the cost issue.

And I don't think Scion's going to make a RWD to compete with the eventual Toybaru.

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scion = toyota (i know you know, just sayin.)


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i mean why on earth would nissan "bring back" a 10 year old design like the s15 now? it looks nothing like any of their cars. it would sell really well? who said that? only a very few people know what a s15 is. and of the very few people that know what it is even less of them would be buying one. it probably won't even sell compared to the versa.

i think nissan is also being smart not releasing the future 240 because they already have an altima coupe which i doubt is doing well at all. hell every company is cutting back on making a sports car, another reason why i'll be getting a s2000 since it's the lastest most recent pure sports car that is affordable.

and get over it, just cause they release a new 240 i bet less than 5% of the people here will/can buy one...so it's not happening.

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hbpignosePA wrote:
i dont want a car that has its cams run off a computer; or any of that other electrical garbage that automakers have put on cars lately
Fight the machines! ! ! !

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i say I call Nissan North america and b**** at them o wait i already do when i try to get my god damn car running

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Hell, I wouldn't mind getting a petition or something together; see if we can't yell at them enough to make 'em think twice about cancelling the return of the greatest car... well, a great car. >_>

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Cap’n Morgatz wrote:Hell, I wouldn't mind getting a petition or something together; see if we can't yell at them enough to make 'em think twice about cancelling the return of the greatest car... well, a great car. >_>
You give that idea up. It's been done. Numerous times. Nissan really doesn't give a f*** what we think.

Edit: Actually, yes they do care. They actually had greenlit developement for a new Silvia, but changed their minds after the economy when south.

Give it more time, guys. When the economy recovers, Silvia will be back. Along with a new Trueno, S2000, NSX & Supra too. In the meantime, just start saving your money.

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I thought this one was the last decision for the s16...


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pepegurr wrote:I have to agree on the milage my sohc got around 21-23mpg while my Rb20 gets 30-31 so i would imagine that the sr(if mostly stock) would be around the same area.
i don't understand this i've checked my gas mileage and my sr does close to 30 highway and about 20 city but the brand new ford fusion can barely do 24 city and 35 highway (just typed in gas mileage new cars first thing that came up) my sohc was the same way also 20-25 mpg

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/09 ... E=simmode1]

are you really going to tell me in 20 years technology hasn't advanced in gas burning tech i know a guy that has a crx that gets close to 40 mpg highway and that was in the late 80's to early 90's no it's not fast but i'm talking cars in general for commuting and don't give me this bull s*** about hybrids they only do 48 mpg only 8 more miles in 20 years something is up here

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hpmachine wrote:Hyundai beat them to the punch. Plus a used 350z would be far better than that pseudo 240 they were gonna make. Fail.
Hyundai did it first and Nissan is just not going to compete because of the economy right now. If I have the money I would get 370z instead, or at least a used 350z. FM platform of 350z has a proven chassis, why would Nissan spend more money to develope a new one, and risk losing a whole lot more money down the pipeline.

I hate to say this but S chassis is dead for now. Maybe 5 years later when Hyundai made it through the recession with its Genesis, and provided that the economy has recoverd, Nissan might want to consider putting a economy sport car for the same price range as Genesis. Even then, it puts a lot of preasure for Nissan, since Hyundai already have a 5 year lead.

As of right now, nobody is looking to get a new car, I would defenitely choose a used 350z rather than risking my hide for a new Genesis.

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cody180sx wrote:
i don't understand this i've checked my gas mileage and my sr does close to 30 highway and about 20 city but the brand new ford fusion can barely do 24 city and 35 highway (just typed in gas mileage new cars first thing that came up) my sohc was the same way also 20-25 mpg

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/09 ... E=simmode1]

are you really going to tell me in 20 years technology hasn't advanced in gas burning tech i know a guy that has a crx that gets close to 40 mpg highway and that was in the late 80's to early 90's no it's not fast but i'm talking cars in general for commuting and don't give me this bull s*** about hybrids they only do 48 mpg only 8 more miles in 20 years something is up here
Geo Metro Nuff said

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This car wins on so many levels, I hate Hyundai too. I don't care what anyone says, the genesis coupe is a nice car.

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To be honest, the late model car that best fits the model of the 240 that we all know and love isn't the 350z/370z or the Genesis coupe. It's the s2000, IMO. The others are too heavy to really compare to s13/s14's.

3rd gen Miata's, Solstices' & Sky's have the right wieght, but the aftermarket isn't quite there for them yet.

The only problem is, anything that compares to the 240's wieght and performance potential these days is a 2 seater roadster...

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Agreed, it's not just the low cost (though that's the main reason I'm surprised Nissan would cancel THIS and not the 370z), it's the weight and the ridiculous number of aftermarket parts. I'd much rather have a Silvia than a Z, and in this economy the Silvia/240 is the more profitable deal. Too late now, of course, but ah well. Would've liked them to start releasing them now so I wouldn't have to pay full price for a new one down the line XD.

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you are an idiot

why would they cancel the z

the datsun z is what helped nissan take off, its the staple car of their line-up and although it went way upmarket and is not the affordable sports car anymore, but they would not scrap it again (already did this between the 300-350's)

actually the new 370z has been reworked and is pretty nimble to todays standards. id much rather see the z concept that is the retro rendition of the classic z's go into production.

sorry guy, the s chassis is dead

accept it and move on.

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Mangid wrote:
Saw blue one on the street for the first time. It was ugly as hell.

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Yeah, I don't think I'd buy a new 240 even if they did make one. It would probably be around 3300lbs with 250hp / underwhelming trq & so many redundant computer systems it'll drive you crazy.

I think I'll stick with the '90's era sports cars or early 2000's stuff. This new stuff is to complex for my simple tastes.

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DirtyGhettoKids wrote:[img]

This car wins on so many levels, I hate Hyundai too. I don't care what anyone says, the genesis coupe is a nice car.
Is this a Redesign of the Tiburon?

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you are forgetting something: Canceling the project, nissan avoided the costly steps of development. When the 1997 ford taures was introduced, it cost Ford over 1.8 billion to develop it, and thats with mostly carry over chassis and drivetrain.... so a new 240sx right now is little irrational.

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cody180sx wrote:
i don't understand this i've checked my gas mileage and my sr does close to 30 highway and about 20 city but the brand new ford fusion can barely do 24 city and 35 highway (just typed in gas mileage new cars first thing that came up) my sohc was the same way also 20-25 mpg

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/09 ... E=simmode1]

are you really going to tell me in 20 years technology hasn't advanced in gas burning tech i know a guy that has a crx that gets close to 40 mpg highway and that was in the late 80's to early 90's no it's not fast but i'm talking cars in general for commuting and don't give me this bull s*** about hybrids they only do 48 mpg only 8 more miles in 20 years something is up here
This is off the original topic, but the reason we don't have more efficient cars is because people wanted more and more features- hence more weight. Plus the SUV craze probably helped people with the notion that a big, heavy vehicle is safer. More weight even with more efficient engines doesn't make a more efficient vehicle.Case in point- evolution of Honda's cars. Fit is the new Civic, Civic is the new Accord, Accord is some sort of luxury car. My first car was an 81 Accord- about the same size wheelbase as the new Fit.Back on topic. New S chassis would have to be a return to lightness, which I seem to recall was a goal of Nissan- having vehicles 15% lighter or something like that (Rumors and Lies section of SCC, within a few months of SCC demise ). If anything, I think Nissan should develop a smaller Silvia- slightly larger than a Miata, 2L NA 180hp, offer a coupe and convertible. I'll buy one (that is, if I ever stop hemorraging money on my s13).

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Ajax wrote:slightly larger than a Miata, 2L NA 180hp, offer a coupe and convertible.
I agree with u totally, the miata has become pretty big now, so they should make it miata sized, just a tad bigger for some rear seats. And if anything, they should tweak the QR25DE, the same 2.5L 4 banger they use in other current nissans. Or even make it QR25DE-T
Modified by Ignacius_Rebenga at 9:21 PM 5/4/2009

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Ignacius_Rebenga wrote:I agree with u totally, the miata has become pretty big now, so they should make it miata sized, just a tad bigger for some rear seats. And if anything, they should tweak the QR25DE, the same 2.5L 4 banger they use in other current nissans. Or even make it QR25DE-T
If Nissan could do that and make it look like this, then that would be a game changer. But we all know this ain't happenin any time soon...



I had to repost it! Its so georgeous!

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DirtyGhettoKids wrote:
This car wins on so many levels, I hate Hyundai too. I don't care what anyone says, the genesis coupe is a nice car.
I just can't picture that car sliding.......

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All The Picture Posted Here Are Chops Of People Thinking (Wishing) What It's Going To Look Like.

It's Not Going To Happen.

And If It Does It Will Not Look Like A G37 Super Car With Staggered 22' Out Back And 19's Up Front.

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^^^ Dream ruining, bubble bustin' party pooper

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leesredgt wrote:
Thats the thing.Thats what the 240sx was at its time.

It wasnt a sports car.Def. wasnt the fastest.Def.wasnt the best looking either.

It was an econo car.
It was a sports car. We just didnt get the sports car engine..

Not to argue which engine is better but a KA with a t25 would get around the same mileage as you guys with SR or RB20 motors.

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It's an economy car.Not a sports car.


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