Anyone else hate their brakes?

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lofapoo
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Haha, I wouldn't wish changing the rear pads on my 240 to my worst of enemies, yet here I am (was, is, kinda) changing them. Driver's side rear inner pad was bare metal, ****ed my rotor a bit (oh well )

The clips are Absolut Hell. Trick is to get two fat *** flat-head screw drivers (one for each clip) and pin them against the place where the outer pad goes forcing the clip into place. It's still really tricky, but it helped me do the job alot quicker on the driver's side. I'm still toughing it out on the passnger side.

Oh yeah, needle-nose pliers for the piston. Don't bother with a special tool, waste of money and the one I got didn't even fit. Plus, it's really easy with the pliers, I didn't even have to open the bleeder valve... yet I did on the driver's side, which I regret, because I think my brakes have lost most of their power Guess I'm gonna have to bleed them and ****... gah!

Put a note down if you own a Nissan and you HATE your brakes


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Rear brakes? Oh those things I use when my car is parked!

ILikeMy240sx
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if you hate them pins switch over to floating calipers like Z32 brakes

brake pads on Z32 calipers take less than 5 mins to change

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at least your brakes arent leaking

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ETTInnov04
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I agree I hate the rears on mine. I just changed th fronts to the Z32 TT rotors and calipers and OH MY GOD! The difference is night and day! Probably the best $700 I've spent so far

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i have to do so much maintenance this spring...timing chain, all fluids and stuff, and my brakes are in desperate need...however i dont see gouges on my rotors yet so im hoping i dont have metal on metal, but i bet its getting close

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i hate my s13s brakes. i even put metal master pads and new calipers all round. , my b13 brakes wayyyyy better

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i don't hate the brakes @ all... they're much better than drum brakes of other models.

sure, my 1st/2nd times on doing a rear brake job were kinda filled w/ profanities, but i learned from it & now work on other peoples' cars w/ that system.

ps: the rubik's cube tool works great w/ a rachet/extension to push/rotate the piston back into the caliper

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i used a c-clamp to push the piston in. ..and i got new rotors on the front cause the front gotten eaten to crap. O, and Advanced Auto sells a dustless lifetime warranty pad that has been very good for me. And don't forget to put that little black piece that goes on the back . . .haha, we warped the crap outta the first set we bought. But yeah, when we did my back brakes, we were so confused, and the guys up at advanced (why am i listening to them??!) said that you twist it in. . .wtf, that would kill that cylinder deal haha. Talked to the guy at the local Nissan plant and he said all you do is use a c clamp and push it in there. Then bleed brakes of course lol.

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96240SX41 wrote:But yeah, when we did my back brakes, we were so confused, and the guys up at advanced (why am i listening to them??!) said that you twist it in. . .wtf, that would kill that cylinder deal haha. Talked to the guy at the local Nissan plant and he said all you do is use a c clamp and push it in there. Then bleed brakes of course lol.
No, you actually do turn the rear cylinder to retract it. You can push the fronts in with a C clamp, but you *should* not push the rears in like that. The rear piston has funny little notches on it that can be grabbed with a needle nose pliers or the above mentioned rubik's cube-like device (got mine at Sears for less than $5).

When in doubt, check the FSM.

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eliterit wrote:i hate my s13s brakes. i even put metal master pads and new calipers all round. , my b13 brakes wayyyyy better
does the b13 have 4 wheel disc brakes too?

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rears on my car are great and almost look new. My past S13 I had a hel of a time with the rear brakes. I have a pair of rear 300ZX brakes in my room.

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nismofly wrote:does the b13 have 4 wheel disc brakes too?
b13 se-r models do

of course i do have the nx2000 calipers and rotors(bigger and thicker rotor).. but even before i did that upgrade the sentra with metalmasters would break so much better than my s13 ever could.

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what clips are you talking about the ones that site acrost the tops and bottoms of the brake pads?

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Dude I feel your pain, it was a pain in the rear to do the first one. I had to go over and take apart the other side to figure out how the dang thing went and it was still a bia to get them stupid clips in there.

You do also have to turn the rears, I borrowed one of those special tools from a mechanic which had different size things and it had one to fit the 240.

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BadMojo wrote:
No, you actually do turn the rear cylinder to retract it. You can push the fronts in with a C clamp, but you *should* not push the rears in like that. The rear piston has funny little notches on it that can be grabbed with a needle nose pliers or the above mentioned rubik's cube-like device (got mine at Sears for less than $5).

When in doubt, check the FSM.
Well wait, if you have to turn it in, how is it supposed to push out? Is the pressure supposed to spin it through the notches? Thats kind of stupid if you think about it (only if i am thinking what your thinking)

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BadMojo wrote:
No, you actually do turn the rear cylinder to retract it. You can push the fronts in with a C clamp, but you *should* not push the rears in like that. The rear piston has funny little notches on it that can be grabbed with a needle nose pliers or the above mentioned rubik's cube-like device (got mine at Sears for less than $5).

When in doubt, check the FSM.
AH! The Rubik's Cube device RULES. Trying to turn the caliper back in with a pair of needle-nosers SUCKS, (if you slip, you could rip the rubber seal) somehow i end up stabbing myself anyway. The rear brakes on the s13 are a pain, but now i have new remanufactured calipers on the rear so hopefully no problem. As long as you keep the pins well lubricated and everything else gunk free, it works fine.

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96240SX41 wrote: O, and Advanced Auto sells a dustless lifetime warranty pad that has been very good for me.
that "lifetime warranty pad" is misleading... only warrants against manufacturer's defects, not when u wear them out, u can return it w/ receipt for a brand new set. I saw another customer trying to return his "worn pads" for exchange of new ones, only to be told the "fineprint" of the warranty. bleh

Pepboys used to do it; now they have a "lifetime warranty" on the pads when u get them 1st installed @ their shop.

the only brake pads i know of that still takes the old worn pads for brand new ones are Autozone

side note: i saw a recent tv ad that they're now selling salvage parts as well???

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go drive an integra, then come back and complain about your brakes.


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