Anybody reconsider their Rogue for the new '09 Murano

[ron-svmale]

Hey everyone,

I special ordered my Blue AWD leather Prem in Oct., and am still waiting. After all this time, I've had time to see other Nissans, and am interested in the new 2009 Nissan Murano LE with AWD and black leather.

After checking the new Murano out, I love the extra features it has over the Rogue, such as push button start ignition, power lift tailgate, rain sensing wipers, 20” wheels, dual zone auto temp. control (ATC) - something that guy from Austin always complains about (BrianV), front & rear heated seats, avail. Nav. System (most Rogue owner complaints), rear view monitor (backup camera), and lastly more front leg room than the Rogue. With all these extras that is not available on the Rogue, I’m sold on this new Murano - even at shelling out another $6000.

Has anyone else checked the new Murano out. Sure, it's a bit bigger (less MPG), but soooo many damn great features that the Rogue doesn't have.

Ron

[BrianV]

Hey everyone,

I special ordered my Blue AWD leather Prem in Oct., and am still waiting. After all this time, I've had time to see other Nissans, and am interested in the new 2009 Nissan Murano LE with AWD and black leather.

After checking the new Murano out, I love the extra features it has over the Rogue, such as push button start ignition, power lift tailgate, rain sensing wipers, 20” wheels, dual zone auto temp. control (ATC) - something that guy from Austin always complains about (BrianV), front & rear heated seats, avail. Nav. System (most Rogue owner complaints), rear view monitor (backup camera), and lastly more front leg room than the Rogue. With all these extras that is not available on the Rogue, I’m sold on this new Murano - even at shelling out another $6000.

Has anyone else checked the new Murano out. Sure, it's a bit bigger (less MPG), but soooo many damn great features that the Rogue doesn't have.

Ron

LOL, I'm glad I've made my stance known here. My g/f is IN LOVE with the Rogue. I think she'd dump me for one. All kidding aside, we are REALLY trying to justify the extra coin. I wish I could get the SL AWD with memory seats and a power telescoping steering wheel. The LE costs about $2k more than a similarly equipped LE and I think most of that is in the 20" rims. Other features are memory seats, heated REAR seats, power steering wheel. An SL with Premium and Tech matches up well. $2k is steep for just those four features and I think I'd prefer the 18s over the 20s (better ride, cheaper tires, possibly quieter ride, etc.).

However, it looks like an LE AWD for around $36k is a SWEET ride. However, I see that as about $8,500 more than a loaded SL AWD Rogue. $8,500 is a lot. I was attracted to the Rogue because of its good fuel economy and it's low price/high value. At $36k, there are a plethora of crossovers I'd have to start considering.

On that note, the Murano is awesome and it's on our minds. Right now, we're waiting on the VW Tiguan. If a loaded Tiguan SE-L (without NAV) comes in at $30k or under, I think it's a done deal for us. If it gets to $33k or so, then we're back at square one or back at considering the Murano.

If an 09 Rogue comes with auto-CC, we might just have to pull the trigger because at $27k it's just a helluva deal.

[boooey]

i think your comparing apples to oranges.. its 2 different markets really.

people who would rather save the 6-10k , and get a car with less options, and better fuel economy and maintenance will opt for the Rogue.

If you want all the fancy options, and don't mind less fuel economy,and have the budget to afford it, you should get a Murano..

I think they both look equally cool , with the Murano being bigger.

The Murano is a very impressive looking car. I really do like it, but the Rogue just hits that sweet spot of afforability, looks and options that fits perfect in my budget.It has all the options that I really need, while leaving out the options i really don't need.

If your willing to shell out $34k+ on a SUV/Crossover, then you really aren't in the market for the Rogue in my opinion

In my eyes, the Rogue is for people who cannot afford a Murano, plain and simple

Nevertheless, i love my Rogue

[Palmateer]

We agree completely, plus my wife (who would be the primary driver) prefers a little bit smaller vehicle.

I think you're comparing apples to oranges - it's two different markets really.

If you want all the fancy options, and don't mind less fuel economy, and have the budget to afford it, you should get a Murano.

The Murano is a very impressive looking car. I really do like it, but the Rogue just hits that sweet spot of affordability, looks and options that fits perfectly in my budget. It has all the options that I really need, while leaving out the options I really don't need.

If you're willing to shell out $34k+ on a SUV/Crossover, then you really aren't in the market for the Rogue in my opinion

[Lightforce18]

i was looking at the new murano too before i bought my rogue. But the price difference is too much for me.

[jsellberg]

no, i love my rogue.

plus i HATE the muranos "tupperware" looking dash. ew.

[mag318]

I traded in my 2005 Murano for a Rogue. True the Murano has a few more features and I consider the Rogue to be a Baby Murano. But frankly I like the size of the Rogue better. At first I was leary about the 4 cyl engine but now after 5000 miles in it I am quite satisfied with it's performance and driveability. Those paddle shifters really increase the shear fun factor. Although I really like the Murano I hated paying $.20 more a gallon for premium and I'm sure gas prices will most likely hit $4 this summer. So I can't figure out why Nissan didn't set up the engine on the 2009 Murano to run on regular grade gas, Honda and Toyota offer 6 cyl engines with just as much horsepower. I think this one oversight is really going to hurt 2009 Murano sales.

[ron-svmale]

So I can't figure out why Nissan didn't set up the engine on the 2009 Murano to run on regular grade gas, Honda and Toyota offer 6 cyl engines with just as much horsepower. I think this one oversight is really going to hurt 2009 Murano sales.

After looking over the Specs on the 09 Murano, I found that it does use regular fuel.

[Palmateer]

The Nissan dealer said they "recommend" premium, but that you can get by (with lesser performance) on regular fuel as well.

After looking over the Specs on the 09 Murano, I found that it does use regular fuel.

[computerguy]

Is it just me or is Brianv just starting to sound like a broken record. it's time he faces up to the fact that you don't get all the goodies on a budget car, so its get off the pot and spend the extra 8 to 10 grand and get a vehicle with all the features or quit wining.

[killercross]

09 Murano nice and so was the last model. I frankly don't think the extra money gets you enough to justify it. That's my opinion. The Rogue fits the bill just right for me. Besides if I was going to spend the extra per month I would spend it on an Infiniti.

[jlsatt00]

I must agree with many of the other posters. I really like the Murano and have for years, but I also wanted to keep my monthly payment under $400. I just couldn't justify getting a base Murano over a Rogue with almost all the features! Another factor that won me over was the size. I was worried a little about changing from a sedan to an SUV. I was more comfortable driving the Rogue and less worried about the size of the vehicle.

[BrianV]

Is it just me or is Brianv just starting to sound like a broken record. it's time he faces up to the fact that you don't get all the goodies on a budget car, so its get off the pot and spend the extra 8 to 10 grand and get a vehicle with all the features or quit wining.

Why the Rogue has ALL the features we want except one. My only point is that somebody in Nissan screwed up. You don't put heated seats, HIDs, premium stereo, bluetooth, steering wheel controls, etc. in a car and miss something so obvious and dated as auto climate control.

Yes I'm a broken record, mainly because I want this addressed so I can buy a freaking Rogue TODAY. The CR-V meets our needs (at less cost than the Rogue even) but the thing is so damn uninspiring. The Rav does as well but I'm iffy on the styling and finding one equipped properly is impossible in the Southern states, and it'd require a special order with a sticker of $33k. With all that hassle and less negotiation power because it's an ordered vehicle, I'd assume just get a Murano.

For me, the Rogue is like an in field home run where the guy got called out sliding towards home plate.

[Lightforce18]

Brianv i know ur really bummed about the Auto-CC thing. But honestly i dont see a big deal with auto-cc. I had it in the g35 and never used it. When I used to hit AUTO cc the darn AC would turn on even in winter. How about if the 09 rogue doesn't have auto-cc. U gonna wait till 010?

[SONNY]

Is it just me or is Brianv just starting to sound like a broken record. it's time he faces up to the fact that you don't get all the goodies on a budget car, so its get off the pot and spend the extra 8 to 10 grand and get a vehicle with all the features or quit wining.

Easy there CG. Everyone has an opinion and this is a forum to express them. Don't like it, don't read. I for one enjoy BrianV's unbiased input. The Rogue not having auto-climate and non telescoping steering wheel were my two main gripes. But now after driving the Rogue for two some weeks the auto air is not a big deal (would still like to have it) but the non-telescoping steering wheel still bothers me. All the other features the Rogue is loaded with in the end outweighed the couple short falls. Of course money talks and that was the final deciding factor.

[YGBSM F-4G]

I rented a '07 Murano a few months before I bought my Rogue and liked it a lot, but the Rogue just made more sense for me. Much better gas mileage and only a tad less cargo room. The luxury things on the Murano were not that big of a deal for me and easy to look past. The Rogue had exactly what I wanted and needed.

HatchbackBluetoothSat RadioXenon HeadlightsAWDGood MPG

[BrianV]

Brianv i know ur really bummed about the Auto-CC thing. But honestly i dont see a big deal with auto-cc. I had it in the g35 and never used it. When I used to hit AUTO cc the darn AC would turn on even in winter. How about if the 09 rogue doesn't have auto-cc. U gonna wait till 010?

I turn the AC off manually if it's cold out. In fact I've been using CC in our G35 and MDX for three months and have never had to touch it. It's set to 68 in both cars with the compressor off. I never touch it.

In the Summer I tweak with it depending on what I'm wearing but it's very minor tweaking.

Like I've mentioned in other posts, many people don't use Auto-CC properly. They crank it down when they're hot and up when they're cold. They don't give it time to do it's thing. The car won't blow air until the optimal time. Thus, in the Summer it won't start blowing hot air at you until it's ready with cool air.

People think it's not working and start tinkering with the settings. I've admitted that tinkering with Auto-CCs is an awful experience. Too many buttons, too difficult, etc. However, I've had Auto-CC in all of MY cars since my 1997 Maxima and have had it in parent's cars since 1989 (BMW 735i). I know how it works, I trust it, and now, unfortunately, it's a requirement. It just is. I completely understand and respect that others don't want it, but it is a luxury feature. You can't buy an Infiniti, Lexus, Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Cadillac, Lincoln, etc. without climate control. You just can't get one in the US without it.

It's not for everyone. People like to try and flame me for complaining about it, and I don't mind that. My issue with it on this particular vehicle is two fold. Before I explain those issues, please note, I'm not sitting in the Nissan Sentra forums complaining how it's not an available feature. Anyways, the broken record sings again, here are the two issues:

1) The car comes with so many other features that rank much higher on the luxury scale than auto-CC. HID headlights, heated seats, bluetooth, intelligent key, etc. I mean come on, intelligent key with no Auto-CC??? It'd be like selling a Kia with manual windows but equipping it with memory seats; it just doesn't make sense (slightly more extreme, but you get the drift).2) THIS IS MY BIGGEST GRIPE. I researched the car and I was fully equipped to go buy a Rogue. I don't really test drive cars; I test drive the car(s) that fit our needs and usually buy them. I read a lot about them and I can tell based on several factors whether the car is ideal. Auto-CC is required. It wasn't until deep research on this forum that I realized the car didn't come with Auto-CC. Here's the gripe, the freaking picture of the Rogue interior on the web site shows it with Auto-CC. The same Auto-CC the 350Z has. I owned a 350Z so I was fully expecting that. Had they not made that mistake, I probably would've dismissed the Rogue immediately and never found this forum.

Unfortunately, some people on here talked me into test driving the car. I loved it, but I refuse to go against my policy of buying a non Auto-CC equipped vehicle. We're riding it out now. Hoping that the VW Tiguan is the right car for us -OR- the 09 Rogue comes with Auto-CC. We're prepared to buy as soon as either of those conditions are met. If the Tiguan doesn't work out or the 09 Rogue doesn't get Auto-CC, then I'm prepared to start looking at other options including the Murano and all the other CUVs that are in the ~$35k ball park.

This is my g/f's car and $35k is outside her comfort range and as it stands now, I already pay more than 50% of her payment; I'd prefer not spending any more since I already drive a $38k car which I pay the note on.

Modified by BrianV at 11:56 AM 2/7/2008
Modified by BrianV at 11:56 AM 2/7/2008

[Lightforce18]

I turn the AC off manually if it's cold out. In fact I've been using CC in our G35 and MDX for three months and have never had to touch it. It's set to 68 in both cars with the compressor off. I never touch it.

In the Summer I tweak with it depending on what I'm wearing but it's very minor tweaking.

Like I've mentioned in other posts, many people don't use Auto-CC properly. They crank it down when they're hot and up when they're cold. They don't give it time to do it's thing. The car won't blow air until the optimal time. Thus, in the Summer it won't start blowing hot air at you until it's ready with cool air.

People think it's not working and start tinkering with the settings. I've admitted that tinkering with Auto-CCs is an awful experience. Too many buttons, too difficult, etc. However, I've had Auto-CC in all of MY cars since my 1997 Maxima and have had it in parent's cars since 1989 (BMW 735i). I know how it works, I trust it, and now, unfortunately, it's a requirement. It just is. I completely understand and respect that others don't want it, but it is a luxury feature. You can't buy an Infiniti, Lexus, Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Cadillac, Lincoln, etc. without climate control. You just can't get one in the US without it.

It's not for everyone. People like to try and flame me for complaining about it, and I don't mind that. My issue with it on this particular vehicle is two fold. Before I explain those issues, please note, I'm not sitting in the Nissan Sentra forums complaining how it's not an available feature. Anyways, the broken record sings again, here are the two issues:

1) The car comes with so many other features that rank much higher on the luxury scale than auto-CC. HID headlights, heated seats, bluetooth, intelligent key, etc. I mean come on, intelligent key with no Auto-CC??? It'd be like selling a Kia with manual windows but equipping it with memory seats; it just doesn't make sense (slightly more extreme, but you get the drift).2) THIS IS MY BIGGEST GRIPE. I researched the car and I was fully equipped to go buy a Rogue. I don't really test drive cars; I test drive the car(s) that fit our needs and usually buy them. I read a lot about them and I can tell based on several factors whether the car is ideal. Auto-CC is required. It wasn't until deep research on this forum that I realized the car didn't come with Auto-CC. Here's the gripe, the freaking picture of the Rogue interior on the web site shows it with Auto-CC. The same Auto-CC the 350Z has. I owned a 350Z so I was fully expecting that. Had they not made that mistake, I probably would've dismissed the Rogue immediately and never found this forum.

Unfortunately, some people on here talked me into test driving the car. I loved it, but I refuse to go against my policy of buying a non Auto-CC equipped vehicle. We're riding it out now. Hoping that the VW Tiguan is the right car for us -OR- the 09 Rogue comes with Auto-CC. We're prepared to buy as soon as either of those conditions are met. If the Tiguan doesn't work out or the 09 Rogue doesn't get Auto-CC, then I'm prepared to start looking at other options including the Murano and all the other CUVs that are in the ~$35k ball park.

This is my g/f's car and $35k is outside her comfort range and as it stands now, I already pay more than 50% of her payment; I'd prefer not spending any more since I already drive a $38k car which I pay the note on.

Modified by BrianV at 11:56 AM 2/7/2008

Modified by BrianV at 11:56 AM 2/7/2008

Maybe i am wrong. But in my Rogue when I move the heater thing from vents pointing at u to the one on my windows. the AC auto turns on. Why does it do that. Then if u switch it off, switch back to vents the AC comes back on. Is that AUTO CC? if it is. I FREAKING HATE IT

[jsellberg]

no that's not auto cc. that's the rogues way of defrosting the front windsheild faster.

[BrianV]

Maybe i am wrong. But in my Rogue when I move the heater thing from vents pointing at u to the one on my windows. the AC auto turns on. Why does it do that. Then if u switch it off, switch back to vents the AC comes back on. Is that AUTO CC? if it is. I FREAKING HATE IT

Almost all vehicles do this now. Both cars with Auto and Manual CC do this and have done it for years. The reason is that in nearly all cases the AC helps defrost since it acts as a dehumidifier. In many cases it's impossible to effectively defrost without running the AC.

[jfowl75]

Was well on the way to a new Murano when we discovered the Rogue, It fit our needs and wants and budget much better.

[Homer]

I actually purchased the 09' Murano over the Rogue. I drove back to back... Rogue first then Murano. I fell in love with the Rogue and was all set to buy one til I drove the Murano. Both excellent cars... either one is a good decision. Drive the Rogue only if you want it.

[mmyye]

i tried one, pretty good better power, the most thing i like about the murano is the moonroof, that was great, but considering i'm living in san francisco, even one inch is harder for me to find a parking space....

[MHmidhudson]

If your willing to shell out $34k+ on a SUV/Crossover, then you really aren't in the market for the Rogue in my opinion

In my eyes, the Rogue is for people who cannot afford a Murano, plain and simple

Nevertheless, i love my Rogue

Well, that's not the case with me. I am a tad over 50 years old, and I bought the Rogue primarily to get my wife out of MinivanLand forever (we had four of 'em). I wanted to size down to a 4-cylinder engine because I can read handwriting on walls...I love the new Murano, all right, but if I had it to do all over again I'd buy the Rogue again. Next time, though, I'll opt for the leather package. As it was, I grabbed the first one that came in, one of the first to be sold in the USA (last six: 1002xx). 11,000 miles and six months later, I'm not jealous of *anyone*.

[mistergib]

For a comparably equipped Rogue vs Murano, you would actually bepaying the extra $6k for the Murano just for the 6 cyl motor...is it worthit to you???