Anybody here have the JIC coil overs for there Q45 ?

Post by **pdqwrx** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:27 pm

Hello, I just bought a burgandy 1994 Q45 and want/need to upgrade my suspension. Since Eibach is out of production and I am not a huge Tokico fan I did some research and found the JIC makes a coil over kit for the early Q's.http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_susp_sf1.htmSo I am wondering if anybody here has tried them. I can get them ordered for about $1150.00 and they come with a camber plate to help adjust things. All input will be appreciated.

LaterScott

Post by **Rex** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:01 am

If you search for posts by onetongarage - you should find something. He's got some radical suspension mods on his G50 Q45.

Post by **jamesmost** » Wed May 18, 2005 5:32 am

mark86t has had them on his car and has a set for sale -- I THINK ?i have a set of eibach springs for 300ztt which fits the Q and some guys are very happy running them and i have a set of california custom 2" lowering both sets NIB and for sale

Post by **Falkdesigns** » Wed May 18, 2005 6:13 am

Rex wrote:If you search for posts by onetongarage - you should find something. He's got some radical suspension mods on his G50 Q45.

He's riding cut springs on stock shocks.

Post by **Rex** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:27 am

Falkdesigns wrote:He's riding cut springs on stock shocks.

Oh, I would swear in one of his posts was some pics showing camber plates or soomething.

Falk you have something, right? (but that's not G50)

Post by **Falkdesigns** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:35 am

He may have camber plates, but he has cut stock springs on stock shocks. Unless he changed it. He would have to chime in to really answer.

I have a fully re-habbed suspension, with Tein S-techs (jdm only part) and KYB SR Specials (also jdm only).

Post by **elwesso** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:40 am

jamesmost wrote:mark86t has had them on his car and has a set for sale -- I THINK ?i have a set of eibach springs for 300ztt which fits the Q and some guys are very happy running them and i have a set of california custom 2" lowering both sets NIB and for sale

Mark said that Z32 coilovers will bolt on the front and you have to use the factory strut mount on the rea.r

Post by **Black95Q** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:51 pm

elwesso wrote:
Mark said that Z32 coilovers will bolt on the front and you have to use the factory strut mount on the rea.r

But the Z32 springs work front and rear with no issues?

Post by **elwesso** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:12 am

Correct, Rob has them on his Q... Apparently theyre very similiar if not identical to the Z eibachs.

Post by **maxnix** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:31 am

What bothers me is they were designed for a car ~500 lbs. lighter, so "work" may have to be defined. I would imagine the opposite installation would make a Z ride like a buck board. Fronts could be close as Z32TT with the cast iron block of the VG30DETT could be close in weight to a VH45DE, but the rear would have to be way undersprung.

Post by **Falkdesigns** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:26 am

Brian, I totally agree. Springs should be matched to each car. Just 'cause it may fit, doesn't mean it will work right.

Post by **one ton garage** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:29 am

G50 coilover applications do not use a camber plate, as the front and rear suspension actually uses shocks, not struts, and camber is adjusted by changing the length of the upper control arms, front and rear. The JIC coilovers seem to be pretty decent, and if you can really get them for that low a price for a brand new set, then they are worth a shot, especially since your other options are limited. But you should get that in writing, because I do remember them costing a bit more. The question is what are you looking for in terms of suspension modifications?

And interestingly enough, while upgrading another susp component on my Q the other day, I went through the shocks again and was pleasantly surprised to note that still no signs of accelerated wear or damage to the oem shocks or the tokicos despite the extraordinarily low springs. bumpstops seem to be doing their job and so far, so good. and thus, the air cans are put aside again...

Post by **viplife** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:46 am

pdqwrx wrote:So I am wondering if anybody here has tried them.

I have jic coilovers on my car. They ride very nicely for an aftermarket setup. The ride is still plush.

Post by **pdqwrx** » Thu May 19, 2005 7:43 pm

Thank you all for the replies. I come from a long line of modified cars and generally like my cars to be a little on the stiff side. I was/am worried that the JIC coilovers would be a little too stiff for this car. Especially when I do the front TC bushings and the Stillen upper control arms to keep the camber correct. I would do the correct Eibachs if they were available. As for spring rates, if you go to JIC's web site, you can look up the coil over kit for the Q and compare the spring rates against the other applications. I remember them being alot different then the Z. VIPLIFE, do you get around much? If I made the drive to Sunnyvale would you take me for a ride and let me check out the JIC's?

Thanks again for all your help

Scott

Post by si » Fri May 20, 2005 3:02 am

I have the JIC coilovers on my car too. Car sits pretty low even with it adjusted right up, but i do have a big bodykit though. The ride is a little rough but the big leather seats help that alot. It's also a bit bouncy with it right up. Overall its not too bad, car looks good and you get used to the ride.

Post by **louiegz** » Fri May 20, 2005 4:13 am

pdqwrx wrote:Especially when I do the front TC bushings and the Stillen upper control arms to keep the camber correct.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading a while back that the Stillen upper control arm was the same length fully extended than the stock one. That being the case, it wouldn't solve any negative camber problems you will have from lowering the car. Not only that, people said that they are noisy and expensive. I'd ask someone that has them installed in there Q to elaborate on this before you go through the time and expense of the Stillen upper control arm.

Post by **one ton garage** » Fri May 20, 2005 9:48 am

If anything, I found the JIC coilovers to be a little on the more plush than the stiff side... gotta remember that most coilovers made for the G50 chassis aren't designed for performance, but to maintain some semblance of a luxurious ride, with a low down stance. As for the Stillen front upper links... the Z32 front uca is the same length as the G50's, so if the stillen unit is designed to go longer than the stock Z32 one, then it should work fine in doing the same in the G50

Post by **pdqwrx** » Sat May 21, 2005 9:23 am

Thanks again to everybody for their input. I have a done a ton of searching online and talking with company contacts that I have made over the years (I run a retail car stereo store that dabbles in performance parts) and had a really good conversation with a manufacture that builds Nissan performance parts. He builds parts for the S-13/14 and the Z32. He is working on a set of coil-overs for the z-32 that could be re-built for the Q45 chassis pretty easily. He also makes a upper control arm with 4 deg. of adjustment and replacement TC rods with bearings. Has anybody installed a new TC rod with bearings? How much NVH (Noise Vibration Harshness) do they add to the car?

Post by **one ton garage** » Sun May 22, 2005 1:58 pm

A neglible amount of additional nvh imo...esp when factoring in the added stability and tracking gained, it's worth the upgrade if your oem units are worn or busted. z32 coilovers when used in a g50 would lower your car A LOT depending on the design of the coilover, and how much shorter it is than even the z32 app it is meant for. this could be a good or bad thing, depending on what you are looking for

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