Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

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Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:55 pm

2107 Nissan Rogue SL "Platinum" AWD

My Nav shows ver. 3 but the Nissan Nav site shows the latest is ver. 10 but they want $149... :mad:
Is this the only way to get an update? There have been 7 updates in the 10,000 miles since I bought my new car?


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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby casperfun » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:39 pm

Don’t know about version 10. But seems pretty cheap on eBay.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby Rogue One » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:13 am

Wait 'till it goes on sale for $99.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:09 am

Awesome. Is that usually around Christmas?

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby datechboss101 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:40 pm

I wouldn't spend any money on the NAV update at all, especially from Nissan directly. Its another way for manufacturers to get money. Mine is still on the 2015 update.

Now that $99 promo goes around multiple times during the year, not just only christmas or thanksgiving.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby lou from ny » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:17 pm

use waze....
especially with the newer nissans that allow for android connect

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:32 pm

Lou from NY, I wish the 2017 version of that radio unit would support Android Auto, I'd be all over that and call it good.. Unfortunately, it is only on the 2018 and above.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby datechboss101 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:34 am

emtownsend wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:32 pm
Lou from NY, I wish the 2017 version of that radio unit would support Android Auto, I'd be all over that and call it good.. Unfortunately, it is only on the 2018 and above.
There are three routes to obtain AA for the 2014-2017 Rogues.

1) Replace the Headunit with the 2018 Rogue Headunit (w/ Bose) will be in the neighborhood of $3000-$4000 brand new
2) After market headunit (will loose the 360 camera function while in drive) will be anywhere from $500 to $1500 brand new
3) Download the AA app on your Android device and launch the app, and AA will be available on your phone and is completely FREE.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby skithegreat » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:33 am

datechboss101 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:34 am
emtownsend wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:32 pm
Lou from NY, I wish the 2017 version of that radio unit would support Android Auto, I'd be all over that and call it good.. Unfortunately, it is only on the 2018 and above.
There are three routes to obtain AA for the 2014-2017 Rogues.

1) Replace the Headunit with the 2018 Rogue Headunit (w/ Bose) will be in the neighborhood of $3000-$4000 brand new
2) After market headunit (will loose the 360 camera function while in drive) will be anywhere from $500 to $1500 brand new
3) Download the AA app on your Android device and launch the app, and AA will be available on your phone and is completely FREE.
HI, I saw others mention changing out the head unit with the new 2018 head unit. Is eBay the only option to find a 2018 head unit? I have a 2016 Rogue SL with the Bose system. The main reason for me to switch it out is I want to use Apple CarPlay.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:58 pm

:mike :dblthumb: :yesnod :gotme :woot: hi
skithegreat wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:33 am
datechboss101 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:34 am


There are three routes to obtain AA for the 2014-2017 Rogues.

1) Replace the Headunit with the 2018 Rogue Headunit (w/ Bose) will be in the neighborhood of $3000-$4000 brand new
2) After market headunit (will loose the 360 camera function while in drive) will be anywhere from $500 to $1500 brand new
3) Download the AA app on your Android device and launch the app, and AA will be available on your phone and is completely FREE.
HI, I saw others mention changing out the head unit with the new 2018 head unit. Is eBay the only option to find a 2018 head unit? I have a 2016 Rogue SL with the Bose system. The main reason for me to switch it out is I want to use Apple CarPlay.
My main gripes with the HU are that it's slow, doesn't easily connect for apps and won't do Android Auto. Now the maps are outdated too. Seems like auto manufacturers all tend to neglect the Head Unit software once the car is sold.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby casperfun » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:05 am

Off topic.

But why doesn’t Garmin license their software with car manufacturers.

Onboard gps in today’s cars look so primitive.

Do they still have a basic triangle and bland map on the cheapest offer these days?

Do the expensive ones have the same apps as phones I presume.

I have absolutely no clue since I’m in my decade old car.

Which I am happy.

Too many driver assistance technology for my taste.

I’m old school.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby skithegreat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:46 pm

emtownsend wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:58 pm
:mike :dblthumb: :yesnod :gotme :woot: hi
skithegreat wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:33 am


HI, I saw others mention changing out the head unit with the new 2018 head unit. Is eBay the only option to find a 2018 head unit? I have a 2016 Rogue SL with the Bose system. The main reason for me to switch it out is I want to use Apple CarPlay.
My main gripes with the HU are that it's slow, doesn't easily connect for apps and won't do Android Auto. Now the maps are outdated too. Seems like auto manufacturers all tend to neglect the Head Unit software once the car is sold.
I completely agree the H/U is slow and somethings clunky, but if I can have Apple CarPlay and keep the 360 degree camera system I am willing to put up with the slowness and pay for map updates ever couple of years (no need to buy updates every year). Otherwise I would throw in a Kenwood Excelon Connected H/U and all it a day as they use Garmin maps in their H/U's.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 am

skithegreat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:46 pm
emtownsend wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:58 pm
:mike :dblthumb: :yesnod :gotme :woot: hi

My main gripes with the HU are that it's slow, doesn't easily connect for apps and won't do Android Auto. Now the maps are outdated too. Seems like auto manufacturers all tend to neglect the Head Unit software once the car is sold.
I completely agree the H/U is slow and somethings clunky, but if I can have Apple CarPlay and keep the 360 degree camera system I am willing to put up with the slowness and pay for map updates ever couple of years (no need to buy updates every year). Otherwise I would throw in a Kenwood Excelon Connected H/U and all it a day as they use Garmin maps in their H/U's.
True!

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:26 am

skithegreat wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:33 am
datechboss101 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:34 am


There are three routes to obtain AA for the 2014-2017 Rogues.

1) Replace the Headunit with the 2018 Rogue Headunit (w/ Bose) will be in the neighborhood of $3000-$4000 brand new
2) After market headunit (will loose the 360 camera function while in drive) will be anywhere from $500 to $1500 brand new
3) Download the AA app on your Android device and launch the app, and AA will be available on your phone and is completely FREE.
HI, I saw others mention changing out the head unit with the new 2018 head unit. Is eBay the only option to find a 2018 head unit? I have a 2016 Rogue SL with the Bose system. The main reason for me to switch it out is I want to use Apple CarPlay.
I've seen a few 2018 units on eBay, but there's statement that says these are not upgrades for 2017 or older vehicles because the connectors are different. I wonder if they can be "adapted"?

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby chessmaster » Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:46 am

I think your car should work with Android, which means you can get a much better navigation which has "real time" updates, including traffic, with Google maps or Waze. I would save the 149 dollars, plug in your smart phone, (Apple or Android), and use google maps or WAZE for free.
My 2018 ROgue has Android/Apple play, and I think this is also on the 2017's, with a possible exception of some of the very EARLY 2017's, since the Rogue was upgraded beginning in 2017.
My old Caddy (2006) had Nav on a CDROM. Of course, they want you to buy updated maps.
In virtually all cases, a real time google maps or waze is superior to an "update" because the update is virtually out of date by the time its shipped to you, since there are new roads and some changes virtually every day. Save your money, plug in your smartphone.

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Re: Any way to update Nav that doesn't involve $149?

Postby emtownsend » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:04 pm

chessmaster wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:46 am
I think your car should work with Android, which means you can get a much better navigation which has "real time" updates, including traffic, with Google maps or Waze. I would save the 149 dollars, plug in your smart phone, (Apple or Android), and use google maps or WAZE for free.
My 2018 ROgue has Android/Apple play, and I think this is also on the 2017's, with a possible exception of some of the very EARLY 2017's, since the Rogue was upgraded beginning in 2017.
My old Caddy (2006) had Nav on a CDROM. Of course, they want you to buy updated maps.
In virtually all cases, a real time google maps or waze is superior to an "update" because the update is virtually out of date by the time its shipped to you, since there are new roads and some changes virtually every day. Save your money, plug in your smartphone.
I have the 2017 that unfortunately doesn't have either Google or Apple connectivity. The stereos that do not have that capability, like mine, have an "Apps" button. The newer models lack that button because it features a different touch-screen operation. Besides that, the "Apps" functionality is horrible and fails more than it works.
The built in maps along with XM traffic does fairly well, but that costs money every month. You're right though, the best maps are those from Google or Apple with realtime traffic that is free!


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