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Just got me a new 2003 M45, love it. Silver, beige leather, sweet. Looking to do some mods over time, suspension, wheels/tires, maybe chip, nothing crazy or too aggressive, and was trying to find some information here, and there is alot for the Q, but it appears to be pretty thin for the M (unless I am looking in the wrong places).

Any M45ers out there, looking into mod'ing or who have done some mods already? Looking for aftermarket vendor contact info. JWT for ECU?

Thanks.

M45, Melbourne, Florida. :cool:


AZ94Q
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I wish I had an M45, does that count :)

Seriously though, welcome to nico.. There are a few new Q/m45 owners here, you guys are always welcome... We love the VK45de..

There has been a supercharger developed for your engine, which takes it to 450 hp, with stock exhaust!!!

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PalmerWMD
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We have a small but reasonably active group of M45'ers here.Since it has been such a small production run, not a lot of members have written much about it yet.

It is certainly a well loved/received car here.

Please post up some pics into our members ride section!(link stickied in this forum)

Fred...:)

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rsiwicki
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just curious....does anybody know what an M45 does 0-60 & 1/4 mile???? I think that 0-60 was around 6.0 secs....but I was wondering if that was correct and I have no idea what the 1/4 does. I want to know to see how close I can get my Q to the M45's performance....if not better, but I am sure Q45tech will weigh in with his thoughts on my crazy ideas of maxing out my Q's performance.

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0-60 has been measured from 5.7 to 6.1 depending on altitude and tempsQuarter mile has been usually mid 14's w/ traps between 96 and 99 mph.

Those are all GREAT #'s :ylsuper, but I expect them to even improve with fully driven in examples.The magazine examples typically are very young cars and we all know how Infiniti engines tend to get even stronger after some 20,000 plus miles.An extreme example is the VH45de which often doesnt hit its best #'s until 80,000 to 100,000 miles.

Fred...:)

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rsiwicki
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those are great numbers...especially the 5.7 time. That is really insane for a NA car...no supercharger or anything to get 0-60 in 5.7 secs for such a heavy car. The mid 14's sounds great and if all goes to plan, my car should be right there with these M45 guys....well at least in the 1/4 times.

M45
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Looks like 5.8 seconds from 0-60, according to Motor Trend in a side-by-side test against the Lincoln LS, Mar 2003 test. I am still breaking mine in, so I am treading lightly as it relates to full throttle accelerations...

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A Lincoln LS does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds...I can't believe it...especially an American car like the Lincoln. I must really be getting out of touch on how fast some of these cars have been getting. I thought those were mid 6's cars. I am glad I did not race one the other day.

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I remember the LS vs M45 test:

They tried so hard, to the point of absurdity, to let the domestic win.

The M45 had same price (give or take) was faster in the quarter , better trap speed, better 0-60 (all by huge margins).

Better in slalom, better in braking, better in g forces, yet the LS "handled better" acc'ding to MT..:rolleyes

The M45 has a longer (and plain better) warranty, better looking interior and more features, yet the LS is "over all better" acc;'ding to MT :rolleyes.

Fred...

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rsiwicki
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Thanks Palmer for reassuring my thoughts on the Lincoln LS. I didn't think that it could be that fast.

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The VK45DE is a wicked engine... Much tech from the IRL engine, was handed down to the engine. Titanium valves etc.. Continuously variable valve timing helps out in the low end. Awesome engine, and it has the 5 speed auto.

It's the true successor to our cars

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Agree with the comment about the VK45DE engine. It is smooooth as butter, and I like the fact that it effortlessly moves me (fast) through traffic. As stated, I am still conservative as it relates to pushing the rpm's during break-in.

My other car is a SR20DE 200SX SE-R, 98, CAI/Headers/full exhaust, GAB/Eibachs, Mille Miglia 17in Wheels. Fun to drive, corners great, but it's always loud, have to rev it, runs nice when I do, but the fact that the power on the M is so quiet and smooth is making me smile alot in these days. The SE-R is for sale now... :-)

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Yea, the engine is very deceptive. Many Q owners, think it's slower then their cars, the first time they drive it. I've heard this stated multiple times.. It doesn't have the rugged pull of the older vh45, but it is no means slower.. Our cars are just sort of weak on the lower end, but come on like an absolute beast on high end.. While the VK45DE is just solid, all the way through the rev range.. Providing instant power, that never relents.

Once depreciation really starts hitting the M, I will be picking one up. What an awesome ride.

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yeah....I loved the M45 when I test drove one. I was amazed as you say how smooth and effortless that thing can move. I definetly think it is more a successor to our Q's than then new Q is.

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I love the new Q. It doesn't have the same spirit, that our car had though. I think Infiniti realized this as well, that's why they billed the m45 as the "japanese Muscle car"..

The new Q has all the performance of the M, but it's more geared toward UBER luxury. I was really impressed when I sat/drove the new Q. It's one helluva nice luxury car.. Down to the last detail, it is classy.

Yet you get all the nice interior treatments of the Q, with the aggressive body style of our older Qs, with the M. Basically the best of both worlds.. When the new M45/35 come out, the current M will begin to lose value rapidly.. I can't wait till they get to the lower 20s high teen's.. I'm all over that... Thanks Infiniti.. I know it sucks for you to release such great cars for great prices, that don't sell.. but it's really great for me, when I buy the most car for the money, used. Nothing better then a used infiniti for the money :)

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I am sure that some Infiniti excutive is sh_tting his pants on the lack of sales performance on the M45. He would probably die if he saw what you just wrote...but then again that is why I was able to buy my Q in 1998 versus an LS400 or 540i. It was about $8,000 cheaper for the Q compared to both vehicles with same mileage and year. I just realized something....I hardly ever see a 94 or 95 5 series running around...what happened to all of them? My friend in college had a 95 M5 that was just purely insane. I had never heard of a M5 until I met the guy. Very fast ride.

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Infiniti's are longer lasting than their competition especially compared to BMW.

But I think Infiniti's will also begin to hold thier value much better than they have in the past, due to the much increased consumer awareness of our brand now.

Fred..:)

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PalmerWMD wrote:Infiniti's are longer lasting than their competition especially compared to BMW.

But I think Infiniti's will also begin to hold thier value much better than they have in the past, due to the much increased consumer awareness of our brand now.

Fred..:)


i think the brand has a tough road ahead of it selling truely premium luxury vehicles unfortunatly,look at the dismal sales of both the q and m,they will do well with mid priced offerings like the g35,but most do not seriously look at infiniti when shopping for premium lux cars like the s class or upper bmw or audi,or cringe-the ls430.there is very little panache in our marque due to early zen marketing,and the fact,most old farts wanted a LUXURY soft riding car like the lexus,not a 4 door stiff riding performance machine like the early q.lexus has succeeded making what cadillac and lincoln tried for decades to produce,marketing the reliable,soft car for the anti-drivers out there-my dad would have loved them{bought a new caddy every year} I prefer a sportier mix that we all love and know as Infiniti.

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Agreed.

Luckily for us, Infiniti doesn't need to sell the Q, as it's not the one driving the brand. The G and the FX really saved Infiniti. If people choose not to buy the M or Q, it's their loss. Those are both great cars, and outshine their competiton in many ways.

I think the NEW M45/35 will bring in customers, like the G35 did. The NYC auto show is almost upon us, so hopefully we can see what is in store for the M..

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AZ94Q wrote:Agreed.

Luckily for us, Infiniti doesn't need to sell the Q, as it's not the one driving the brand. The G and the FX really saved Infiniti. If people choose not to buy the M or Q, it's their loss. Those are both great cars, and outshine their competiton in many ways.

I think the NEW M45/35 will bring in customers, like the G35 did. The NYC auto show is almost upon us, so hopefully we can see what is in store for the M..


yes,but without the success of their upper range cars,they may disappear,and then what will all of us who love our 90-96 q go shopping for? we may be forced to leave the brand without suitable replacements to our current cars.i honestly can say there is not one new car that i am lusting for since getting the q Over 100,000 miles ago!

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Don't worry, Mr.Goshen(sp?) has some awesome replacements lined up. I agree if those don't sell, then we may be in some trouble.

The new M45/M35 which should debut at the NYC auto show, will be a good seller, I hope. It has great styling, new interior, new features, and all the performance of the current M.

The new Q is being worked on, and should debut in 2006 or so. Mr Goshen knows the issues that have plagued the Q, and is promising to address them

The next skyline GTR, will most likely be sold as an Infiniti, and should debut in 2007/2008. It will be Infinitis flagship, and I promise you, will absolutely revolutionize sports cars. It will be much like the original Q, in terms of advancement of technology. It will be a 911 turbo killer, for much cheaper.

Good times are ahead for Infiniti. They have brought the sales in to save the line, and now they are completely reworking the model lineup. What you see now, is only the first phase of their development.. Good job Infiniti :)

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As requested by Fred, I posted a couple of images of my new M to the forum. Cleaned it Saturday and it was ready for photos. Note the license plate on the M --> wish I were there right now. Hehehe. Also included a couple of my old ride, the SE-R.

I grew up in Europe and spend some time in the mid-80's chasing first a first a 2002tii, then a 325i, both stick around the Autobahn between Heidelberg and Wuerzburg. Still have that German drivers license. Loved it. The 325i would top out at 260 km/h (~155 mph) with the "long 5th gear" they used to put into them at that time. I wish I could take the M there...

I love the lines on the M45. Also the fact that not many are out there. The Infiniti dealer in Melbourne told me he sold three so far since their introduction in 02 (it is a small dealership). I checked with the dealers in West Palm, Orlando, Daytona Beach and Tampa, and I think a total of about 30 to 40 cars were sold since 02, not many at all. Keeps the group somewhat exclusive, which I like. We have an area just north of Melbourne where all the rich folks reside, so there are many Mercedes and Lexus LS 430's around, and I swear, if I had the money to buy those, the last I would want to be seen in is "just another Lexus" bland-looking-and-driving car...

M45

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M45,

Couldn't agree more.. Rich people love being seen in the same boring vehicles...

You have the mentality of an Infiniti owner..

Welcome to the club!

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The best 0-60 number I have seen is 5.4 sec. The car in that wrirteup had 10,000mi or so . Mine has 32,000mi already , definitely feels much faster then the few test drives I took before I bought one .

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Someone has done 0-60 in 5.2 with a stock M45 IIRC.

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[quote=" M45 I love the lines on the M45. Also the fact that not many are out there. The Infiniti dealer in Melbourne told me he sold three so far since their introduction in 02 (it is a small dealership). I checked with the dealers in West Palm, Orlando, Daytona Beach and Tampa, and I think a total of about 30 to 40 cars were sold since 02, not many at all. Keeps the group somewhat exclusive, which I like. We have an area just north of Melbourne where all the rich folks reside, so there are many Mercedes and Lexus LS 430's around, and I swear, if I had the money to buy those, the last I would want to be seen in is "just another Lexus" bland-looking-and-driving car...

M45 [/quote]

This was one of the reasons I chose to get an M45 as well .. I LOVE the fact that there are hardly ANY other ones out there ! So far, since I've had my car (around 6 months) - I've only seen about 5 other ones in my entire tri-state area ! And, I CONSTANTLY get stares and compliments !

It's a great 'club' to be in ! The hell with all those other rich-type Lexus, Mercedes and BMW people ! I LOVE MY M45, and I'm FAR from being RICH !!! I just got a great expensive car at a CHEAP price !!!

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How many of you guys with 03 M45 have the crappy transmission upshift/downshift syndrom? I had the TSB done , but now she is back to being annoying . Any ideas ? I will probabely try the TSB again , before complaining to anybody at Infiniti .

M45
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I have heard of that issue, but I am not exactly sure what the details are. Can you elaborate what I am looking for with the upshift/downshift issue?


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