any learning tricks????????

[driftdoper]

is there any good exercises or tricks to get good as fast as possible, obvously paractice practice but like put cones 10feet apart and e-brake then tire slide or some **** i have no clue new to drifting trying to learn, very serouse dont want to wreck but want to learn to push the limits ................ please give suggestions

[rico05]

Find a big, open parking lot. Then go there late at night and practice. Try LIGHTLY pulling your e-brake (don't forget to push in your clutch pedal). Try turning away from the corner just before entr, then back into it hard (called "feint") Also, try lifitng off or braking right before you want to try to slide. Remmeber to keep on top of your steering, and don't be afraid to screw up.

[Nissan-S14]

buy the drift bible.

[silkk]

download the drift bible. @ suprnova.org

[BuudWeizErr]

sorry bub.

there are no tricks.

just practice with a side of practice and a good helping of practice for dessert.

although... skill will help you out... but thats a whole other thread.

[Ender_Zero]

buy a car that you dont care about. thats more fun, and if you break it, who cares? i had an 88 non turbo rx7 that i got for free. it wasnt running when i got it, but i got it to run on one rotor (the other rotor had no compression) after several weeks of toying around with it, and when it was late i would go to a big parking lot and just screw around. i learned alot about how to use anything but power to get the car sideways since that half-motor probably only put out a max of 45-50 hp.

heh, now the rx7 is getting a new motor and suspension...maybe its time for a new crap car....

[AREITU]

i got it to run on one rotor (the other rotor had no compression) after several weeks of toying around with it, and when it was late i would go to a big parking lot and just screw around. i learned alot about how to use anything but power to get the car sideways since that half-motor probably only put out a max of 45-50 hp.

It's the Quarter Port Special!

[santi]

haha thats special the one rotor.. i like the car you dont care about part.. yall should see mine.. and in the process of learning i've jumped curbs almost hit poles fell of the road and spun out more than anyone i know .it's just another car for me to destroy..

[Florida240sx]

Going to get something to have fun with. Maybe a Geo Tracker. Although I about roll my cousins over everyday. They slide very nice on loos gravel roads and can hydroplane when your goign 60 and look up to see the road is covered with water from a flooded field. Think I need something better...Prizm...maybe. Wonder how far I can make it down a dirt bike trail.

[chmercer]

try to go to track events. i didnt learn **** when i went to parking lots early on. its retarded when there are no corners. first 2 events i went to, i super sucked, but now i am good enough to where i can impress noobs. i am not any good though.

seriously, parking lots are retarded unless you bring your own cones and set up an s turn or somthing. if there are no drift events within driving distance from you, and you cant find any good roads with decent runoff, i say try practicing at an autocross. you will probably get yelled at or whatever but it is hella fun.

[Nissan-S14]

make pretend there are cones, its all in your imagination!

[sp4rkz]

Practice is the main key.. like what they said.. dont be scared.. give it a go.. and Pull that ***** and hope u swing.. lolz.. oh yeah remeber .. dont hit anything... ^_^ have fun!!

[90s13ka24e]

JUST STAY OFF THE ROADS. DONT PRACTICE ON ROADS. UNLESS YOU ARE ASKIN TO SERIOUSLY DESTOY YOUR CAR. IVE WATCHED MY FRIEND HIT SO MUCH JUNK IT AINT FUNNY. STICK TO THE PARKIN LOTS AND EVENTS.

[Veriest1]

Books like Going Faster by Danny Sullivan are useful for understanding car dynamics. You might check that out.

[smokey240sx]

I think right about learning in a open area where you can hit shiet. you have to learn how your car behave before you take the first drift. whatever you do stay away form inital D:D

[Florida240sx]

Just the other day when hurricane Charley came through I had an awesome time. No traffic,no law, tons of empty roads. I'm sure you have some place in your town that you always wanted to do something but there is always too many people to witness your act...well in this hurricane there was no1. Went and got food from a chinese fast food(only place open during the storm) got my food jumped in my car and was drifting for about 5minutes in the parking lot. Was about 100ft away form the store and it was raining so they probably didn't even realise it.Real nice wide open parking lot. Used one of the dividers as my center point and the others for the multiple combo move I did for my exit.Had my dad's g/f's sons with me so I wanted to show off. Also today I had to drop one of them off and a beautiful dirt road turn probably 20 feet wide...needless to say I couldn't resist. Back country roads no1 really cares but if you visit the place too much you will get in trouble. Just know your town well and find good places. Also know where the cops are usually at. Because usually by the time someone reports you and the cop arrives you are long gone. Unless you are an idiot and stay there all night long. Best to go in 2 vehicles have one as a look out for passerbys that show interest in what you are doing...this is when it's time to take off. Learn your car before you start goign to crazy though because if you screw up in a parking lot you just spin out or hit a curb, you screw up on the road your car is going to suffer good damge most likely and might even end up killing depending on the road(ditches,trees,etc.) Also it might be best for you to practice by yourself because when I'm around friends I push my car harder which makes it more badass but increases the risk, that would of been wise not to take it too because of all the possibilities that could go wrong.

[240det]

Going to get something to have fun with. Maybe a Geo Tracker. Although I about roll my cousins over everyday. They slide very nice on loos gravel roads and can hydroplane when your goign 60 and look up to see the road is covered with water from a flooded field. Think I need something better...Prizm...maybe. Wonder how far I can make it down a dirt bike trail.

ROFL!! I used to own a geo prizm... hahahah i used to e-brake slide that thing everywhere... jumped it a few times too.. hahahah good ol' geo...

[sci0n]

I wouldn't reccomend yanking the ebrake up, but that's just me. If you have a RWD 240, even with the KA motor, you can still get it break away pretty easily. We have a windy road near me called Spriggs... 1 way in each direction and pretty windy. Go out at like 2am when no one is around, and just start off lightly, almost like you're going to turn too soon into the corner, and right when the corner starts to wind, turn your wheel the opposite direction. For example, if you're coming up on a left hand turn, steer in close, and then when the turn starts to well, turn, turn your wheel right rather quickly. The rear wheels will break loose, and by the time the turn is over, your car will straighten out because of how you turned your wheels in the turn. Also, a big problem is how gradual the turn is.

I found a decent drift video on another forum for you:

http://www.club240.com/downloa...cid=1

The first video, is pretty good. The rest are allright. Hope that helps.

[scruffy63]

.............just start off lightly, almost like you're going to turn too soon into the corner, and right when the corner starts to wind, turn your wheel the opposite direction. For example, if you're coming up on a left hand turn, steer in close, and then when the turn starts to well, turn, turn your wheel right rather quickly. The rear wheels will break loose, and by the time the turn is over, your car will straighten out because of how you turned your wheels in the turn........

believe me drifting is not as easy as you make it seem.you cannot just turn the wheel to drift as a beginner. I suggest using the e-brake for starters.beginners do not need to learn how to start a drift, it is much more important to know how to control a drift and the e-brake is the easiest way to get the back to swing out.the way you are talking about drifting you have to press the brakes lightly as you turn into the turn to shift the weight up front for grip(inducing oversteer) then you countersteer and use mostly the throttle to control the drift. a beginner who does not have a good feel of his car will not be able to do this correctly.but I guess as long as you learn its all good. just be safe.

[sci0n]

I can agree with you on that. Although for me, when I first tried a ebrake drift, it didn't work out at all. The ebrake caused the car to randomly swing out and when I tried to recover and throw it down, it swung in the other direction and almost hit the pole. Besides that, I don't like wearing down my ebrake. I tried the method I described, and for me it seemed a lot easier. Either way don't try anything crazy on a mountain top or anything. In a parking lot you can try it around the islands or something to start with.

[scruffy63]

well with the e-brake you just have to have a quick hand. i basically do a feint drift but instead of using my regular brakes I use my e-brake.you just have to do it quick or else it will swing out too far. if you have aim i'll send you my drift vid tonight so you can see what i'm talking about.

[marshun]

i think if you drive a car you dont care about, then you wont get better cause you wont concentrate hard enough to realize your mistakes. you'll just be goofin off.

but events are the best way to go. i wish i learned at an event. woulda been a whole lot cheaper. hehe

[tryiian]

per personal preference, per- iMean, some people can push harder and try dangerous things more... well, dangerously, in a dirty, broken, ugly, pos. obviously im not recommending anybody take their firing on two cylinders s13 up in a mountain somewhere for their first time so they dont have worries about the car II keep them from sliding nearer th edge, and ending up slipping off, or anything, but ask th guy with th one rotor rx7 if he thinks having a junk trainer is a bad idea. Or, perhaps, Katsuhio Ueo (my most respected d1 pilot), who`s said he practices with a suspension upgrades only 86.people

[mr_aj_johnson]

I first learned to drift in an 87audi 4000 cs quattro. The 4 wheel drive made it really hard to link drifts together on the asphalt. and the car really liked to understeer. but I have to agree with sci0n in that I had the most success in learning to initiate and control a drift by balancing the car and shifting the weight through braking than by yanking the ebrake and hoping I could spin the wheel fast enough. When you yank the ebrake you do learn to control your car but it has two problems1 The ebrake puts you in a high angle drift right away and at risk spinning out2 you really dont learn how your car is balanced by using the ebrake. (hope that sounds right)If you use controlled braking to initiate the drift you can control the angle of slide and then power out. ajp.s. dont get me wrong the ebrake has saved me several times when I overbraked and started to understeer but that is a different problem.

[scruffy63]

1. thats why you just hit the e-brake really quick. just enough to get the car moving sideways or better yet as quick as you can pull it and get it back down.

2. i agree

ps. I thought if you over braked you would get too much over steer.braking shifts the weight of the car on the front wheels which means more traction up front and less in the back. this equals oversteer.

[Dattebayo]

Q: How in the world can you drift a 4wd car?!? On pavement?!?

Should i raise the flag on that or what???

[sci0n]

Some people had a hard time getting their WRX to drift at events because it was all wheel drive. I'm guessing weaker / bald tires in the front, if it wasn't converted to rear-wheel drive only. I've done a damn nice powerslide in a front wheel drive car, the only thing keeping me from calling it a drift is so I won't be flammed

LOLOLOLLER OMGF U N00BZ!!1ONE U CANT DRFT IN TEH FWD!

Once again, just don't go out there like you're in initial D and try to drift down the rockies on a 1 lane road in each direction. Just start off small, get used to your car and how it recovers from turns. That was a problem for me at first, I would counter-steer to hard, and my car would start to pull the opposite direction slowly, and then suddenly shoot the other one. Sorry if that was a bad explination. Just try different ways, you don't want to drift in a hunk of junka because you might not worry about getting it right so much and if you hit it, you're also low on money so you can't really buy another car just to drift in. At the same time, don't take hairpin turns at 60mph for your first drift

And always, start off slow. Don't listen to what your friends think. If they're trying to get you to push your car harder and you don't feel comfortable with it, don't. Let them wreck their car and give up their life. Be safe, and have fun. :ylsuper

[mr_aj_johnson]

2bn_s13 The audi had a differential lock which would allow me to lock the rear diff. The front was still swapping power back and forth between the tires. the only problem I had was that the car didnt have enough power to keep 3 wheels spinning long enough to maintain more than 2 linked drifts. In the snow and on gravel it was the greatest.scruffy63: the when I over braked the car would lock up the front wheels and induce understeer that was very hard to pull out of because the car liked to understeer naturally. I prolly could have just adjusted the brakes to make the rears lock up first but hindsight is always 20/20

[mr_aj_johnson]

BTW I was also haulin a**

[hopelesslyromantic2]

Download drift bible on limewire. Then if you try it and you like it buy it. Drifting with e brake is easy. Heck my friend have a honda and he doesn't even know how to drift and it only took him 5 tries to do a 90 degree turn.

"good exercises or tricks to get good as fast as possible"

Yes, dedication and time invested in actually putting real effort learning it.

You can't really learn stuff by hoping there is some magical way that can make you better in a short amount of time. It depends on people.

Studies show that you learn by listening, seeing, and doing.

awd: you can drift a skyline awd. It has... err.. i forgot i thiink it was- god damn it's a suspension crap. Where it move torque to the rear wheel from 50%-100%. With 100% to the rear you can drift =] . Sexiness. Acura has a concept model or something, last time I check, with the same ability. I dunno about the other awd cars though...

I think you can drift with FWD but not continuously. And the only way to get it to drift is ebrake. Unless there's another method i didn't know about. Beside my friend did it on his 1982 honda accord. We were screaming out "Wooot!"