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IvoryJ30t
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so, today my two cd drives decided they wanted to stop behaving. the actual event that caused this could have happened up to a week ago. i cant pinpoint it. [secondary master- dvd-rom, secondary slave- cdrw]

KEEP IN MIND- THE CDRW FUNCTIONS PROPERLY IN NERO.

basically, heres the problem. i inserted an audio cd in the hopes of duplicating it. i close the drive, and bam! no autorun, and no media identification [no disc name or type displayed in explorer]

ok, so i click on the drive, and instead of it opening WMP, it opens the disc [lists tracks]. also, in properties, there was no recording tab.

so i figure it was a bad connection or something, and i removed the two drives from device manager, and removed the secondary ide controller also.

i reboot, enter BIOS, and disable the secondary ide controller.

boot to windows to clear drivers, and then shut down.

open case, remove the ribbon and power cables from both drives and motherboard. reconnect. reboot. enable secondary ide controller.

let windows reinstall drivers. reboot.

now, the cdrw and dvd drive will STILL not autorun or identify the media in the drive.

so, i edit the registry to find out that the drive is incorrectly identified as non-recordable [the cdrw] [a value of 3, as opposed to 1 for cdr and 2 for cdrw] key -

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\CD Burning\Drives\Volume{eb726c01-d5e8-11d8-9ae9-806d6172696f}

ok, so i corrected that which brought back the recording tab in that drives properties.

i also moved the drive to the primary ide with no luck.

the lasting problem- why did autorun suddenly stop, and why wont the drive identify the media to the operating system??????

i fix computers all day, and this one has me stuck. the drives still WORK, just not the way they should.


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oh yeah, xp pro corporate, SP1

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ever though of the simple idea of that the cd could be bad? life on a cd is 2 years. The protectant and data on the cd start waring out.

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reformating solves everything :D

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silkk wrote:reformating solves everything :D
not when you have a klez virus ... :icesangel

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its a ***** because both drives are doing it. and ive tried multiple cds. see, the cds read fine, i can write to cds also, but the drives dont report the disc's info to the os, or the os isnt responding to it.

for example, with my computer open, when you put a cd with a title into the drive, it will show up before the drive letter, or if its an audio cd, it will say audio cd. **its not doing that anymore**

the drives dont respond to autorun either. if i click on the drive with an audio cd in it, it will open the discs contents instead of opening wmp.

this just happened overnight and its driving me crazy.

also, the change that happened in the registry affected all the users hive files. no one else has admin.

a system restore to last week didnt fix anthing other than the registry change that i caught.

i have current norton defs. its just so wierd, and its killing me that i cant get it.

**edit**

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lol funny someone going crazy over something so simple

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yeah, the drives work fine, its just the fact that i cant figure out why there not working exactly the way they should, and its getting to me.

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i messed up above, so i edited it.

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by chance did you go to my computer>cd rom drive>properties>autoplay? .....

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all that is configured correctly.

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its on prompt me for music files?

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you see when you put a disc in the drive, and its title comes up in my computer.

the drive isnt reporting the info. and its not just one drive, its both.

they are both on the secondary ide channel. i moved one to the primary, and it still didnt work right.

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your making it more complicated then it probobly is, so im confused...

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no, during me testing it, i moved it to always open wmp.

i usually have it set to prompt me, and it will prompt when i put an audio disc in.

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ok ok, i moved it to the primary just to test it and moved it back. it was just to see if the secondary ide controller [motherboard] was failing.

its set up exacly the way it was originally.

what im saying is that the drives arent reporting the fact to windows that i just put a new disc in, or the disc's information.

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oh lol weird. Yah had to be controller related most MB and processors are only suppose to last 2 years just like cd's --;

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Your registry files may be fuxored. When that happens its usually better to get a new motherboard than fix the problem, as it could happen again and again.

The other thing it could be (last bet) is that your defaults are set incorrectly in NERO. Nero is a buggy program its self and can cause such issues, so try and download the latest software upgrade from them. Try the drives with another burning program first to see if the same problem occurs.

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IMAPI is disabled

in your run command type services.msc

Scroll down to the service that reads IMAPI CD rom burning service and hit properties. Set it to automatic. Now restart.

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tried that.

the whole problem is not with burning cd's, its getting the drive to operate they way it should. its not reporting the fact that i put a new disc in it.

i went over the settings, i even tried a backup copy of the complete registry, which only fixed the problem i identified before the registry restore.

its the wierdest thing because im the only one with admin access, and it just happened overnight. i didnt make any changes to cause it.

its leading me to believe its the motherboard going out. its not my computer, its at my girlfriends parents house. everyone on the system is a user, so no one could have caused it.

this is so wierd.

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Does WMP work when you try to open an individual track?

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yeah, it works fine, thats not the issue.

you see, when you put a disc in the drive, windows will open a new window for the disc, and it will say the disc's title in my computer.

it stopped doing that all of a sudden.

before, if i put an audio cd in the drive, it would autorun WMP.or if i click on the drive in my computer while an audio disc is in, it would run wmp. it stopped doing that.

all the basic settings are correct. the problem is either hardware, or buried in the registry. ive ruled out the registry, because a complete backup from last week did not solve the problem.

i fix computers all day, but this stupid little problem has me stumped.

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Try getting the newest drivers, don't use the same ones you had before. Bad drivers caused my cd rom drive to lock up my computer every time I put a cd in until I edjected it back out. Still burned CD's and saw that one was in there, but freaked out when I went to install something.

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windows drivers. i never installed drivers in the first place.

worked fine for months until the other day.

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Sorry to support you on this one, but it does seem like your hardware is going dead. Rule out a bad CDRom drive first, then work on the motherboard. Hope you don't have to shell out some $$$ for a new one:(

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its not mine. its the computer at my girlfriends parents house.

im figuring that its the motherboard starting to go. both drives on the secondary ide channel started doing it at the same time.

BUT, i dont get read/write errors. i burned a disc a few hours ago, and it was bit perfect.

if the mobo dies soon, i would have seen it coming.

im A+, CCNT, working on my MCSE, and this has me going in circles.

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do you have the drives on cable select or the are jumpers moved to designate master and slave? Ive heard of loose jumpers making drive operation difficult. Maybe your bus master IDE controller program (screw it, I cant remember the real name) in IDE ATA/ATAPI folder is causing the problem as well. It controls signal I/O from all your IDE devices... Maybe you could re-install this program from the chip manufacturer.

Anyway, keep looking around in the device manager and it might pop up at you...

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Last bet, you should try a PCI IDE adaptor on the CD drives to see if it really is just that one IDE channel thats going bad and not the motherboard or drives themselves.

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i wish i had one laying around. i dont think its the drives, because they both started acting up at the same time.

also, no one has admin on that comp., so it wasnt like someone accidentally deleted anything, because system restore didnt help.

i pulled the drives, the jumpers are correct, the cables are undamaged, and properly seated.

also, i removed the drivers for the drives and the ide controller, and let windows reinstall them. no go.

there was dust around the pins for the northbridge chipset, so im thinking there may be a short on the board. i take my computer apart and clean it out frequently, but i doubt that computer has ever been cleaned out. if i was getting data errors, it would make this easier to pinpoint.

im gonna pull the motherboard from that comp. later and clean it completely.

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Good deal. And while you're at it, take a shop-vac or something and blow all the dust out of the case [/Rob is doing this later today]


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