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My knee-jerk response on first hearing of this was, "OK, cool - Shoot 'em and be done with it."

Now I'm thinking it warrants a closer look... but what's most disturbing to me is the extreme double-standard we're seeing here...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKA7V1WZ4xQ[/youtube]


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Would you elaborate on the double standard you see? Is it that no one is up in arms over this still not verified policy whereas they were under Bush?

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Sounds like reverse scare tactics. Need more info to form an opinion... I get the impression that Greenwald is sycophantic.

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bigbadberry3 wrote:Would you elaborate on the double standard you see? Is it that no one is up in arms over this still not verified policy whereas they were under Bush?
No, I don't think that's it. This one's gonna be hard to explain, so bear with me... We're hearing all this talk about "preserving and defending the rights" of illegal immigrants, foreign enemy combatants, terrorists, and other individuals who are supposedly afforded "due process" via our judicial system. But we've got this OTHER group, who we've decided need to be "shot on sight" - No due process, no trial, no defense attorneys, no "neutral venue".

That's where I feel like we have a double-standard. Hope it makes sense.

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I can't see the video. What are we talking about?

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IBCoupe wrote:I can't see the video. What are we talking about?
Watch it from home. It's long. ;)

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Well explained. I'm just not sure if illegal immigrants are on the same level of enemy combatants though.

However, as for terrorists, I feel that we should eliminate them , even if they are US citizens. Sure it doesn't sound good or look good but if it's nescesary, we have to do it. I may not like the trend but post 9/11, it seems like we're headed down this path.

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bigbadberry3 wrote:Well explained. I'm just not sure if illegal immigrants are on the same level of enemy combatants though.

However, as for terrorists, I feel that we should eliminate them , even if they are US citizens. Sure it doesn't sound good or look good but if it's nescesary, we have to do it. I may not like the trend but post 9/11, it seems like we're headed down this path.
I'm fine with that as well, as long as it's universal - In that case, let's fire up "Ol' Sparky" - there's several of these guys hogging up the Federal prison system awaiting trial. :bigthumb:

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When did NICO get video embed, Greg? It didn't really register that I was watching that via an embed. :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb:

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A couple months ago.

I'll keep adding goodies, as long as the current Administration doesn't hammer me too hard come April 2011. ;)

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bigbadberry3 wrote:Well explained. I'm just not sure if illegal immigrants are on the same level of enemy combatants though.

However, as for terrorists, I feel that we should eliminate them , even if they are US citizens. Sure it doesn't sound good or look good but if it's nescesary, we have to do it. I may not like the trend but post 9/11, it seems like we're headed down this path.
All I know is an illegal immigrant is a tresspasser and a thief. If I caught someone tresspassing on my property, I'd shoot, plain and simple.

My only concern is here that random person A reports you as a terrorlst. Random person B lacks any concept of oversight and agrees, so you get shot. Shoot terrorists all you want, I'd just like a little due process.

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See? It's a sketchy proposition.

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So is it just me or is Greenwald extrapolating what he considers to be policy based on unconfirmed reports from unconfirmed sources? Funny thing is a bud called me up a few minutes ago and said somebody he worked with told him that Obama had "signed an executive order on monday, legalizing the assasination of US Citizens."


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