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myl3s
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I just sold my 66 mustang for 18,000 i found a few skylines, r33 and 34, that i can afford but with the whole grey market skyline b.s. i'm just trying to figure out what to do. does anyone know what states you can register one? or has anyone on here know anyone or actually had they car took? thinks guys appreciate this


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You live in CA, thats like commiting suicide.

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You live in CA, thats like commiting suicide.

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Are you trying to go the "state legal" route, or are you actually trying to get one federally compliant?

I am not sure what states you can get a title in, but I am pretty sure that California is pretty keen on the whole grey market deal.

I'd do some hard core research about what states do it and be sure you are up to date on what could happen should you purchase a car and try to register it.

myl3s
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i was thinking about taking the car to texas or florida to a couple friends out there then registering it and bringing back to LA

Rowdy
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hey, new to the site, but i have been wanting a r33 for a while. if you do some research, you'll find the actuall legal way to get a r33. if the cars you have found aren't already titled in the states its like they said... suicide. there is currently a r32 on ebay down in cali for sale. it's a motorex import, looks clean though... good luck.

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So I read threw the whole thread "so you want a skyline" thats stickyed at the top. I found a r33 1995 GTR with a registered real NY title as a 2door nissan skyline. Vin number on bolth the car and the paperwork match. I'm in contact with the owner and he said he had it insured and on the road with no problems for the last 4 years. I'm just wondering if I get this thing back to Michigan I'm really just taking a big gambel on weather or not the SOS here will be able to run paperwork on the title an Vin. I bought my 2006 gsxr 1000 a year ago and the seller was not the orginall name on the title for the bike. I had a hell of a time passing it threw SOS but I got it in my name and all good. I oviously did a car fax vin check on the bike before I bought it making sure it wasent stolen and it was all good. Had no problems with it, Im just hopeing now that this Skyline r33 gos as smooth as that paperwork did. I've never once had to pass DOT or EPA regualtions out here at MI's DMV or insurance with any car or bike ive owned so that whole OBD2 bull is not gona effect me. Hell my Sti is compleatly illgal on the street if you wanna get picky just because she is stage 2 (no cats on the up pipe, DP, axel-back, 18 psi of pure power) ect. And do police around here ask me to lift my hood .... no. I just don't know how I feel about getting pulled over and having to explain the whole Right Hand Drive thing to him when he comes to the wrong window. lol. Thats a dead give away that the car isnt legal. IDK what Im gonna do.

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Another thing, lets say I got a good buddy in canada can I title & register the car there (it passes the 15yr limit being a 1995) even though I don't have canadian citizenship? could I just use his address for the registration and title work with my us ID and my name on the paperwork? Or is that not gonna fly? If thats the case, how soon can I get canadian citizenship?

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Let's get a couple things straight.

1. Just because it has registration and a title in NY DOES NOT mean the car is federally legal. How do people not understand this concept? Do you not read? This particular bit has been covered countless times in this forum. If the car does not have a release form from some federal agency (which one escapes me at the moment), it's NOT FEDERALLY LEGAL. Bottom line. And federal trumps state, every time. You purchase this car, you're running the risk of getting it impounded, exported or worse...crushed. And now you're out all that money you just spent to get a car that was illegally imported.

There is a box in the importation forms that, in essence, says, "Does this vehicle conform to all NHTSA, EPA and DOT specifications?" It's a yes or no check box question. If the importer checked yes and the car was not converted, then that form is fraudulent.(Those may not be the exact words, but it's round about that.)

2. OBD II compliance has nothing to do with whether or not your state/city smog checks. It's an On Board Diagnostics port to check engine functions, as well as being a way to check the smog output. So just because your state/city doesn't check that kinda thing doesn't mean it isn't needed.

All cars manufactured after 1995 were required to have OBD II systems (although I have read some cars in that time had an older system, still), and the NHTSA only lists the 1996-1998 R33 Skylines as being eligible for importation, mostly due to dual air bags.

The OBD II system is part of the modification process established by the NHTSA, DOT and EPA, so yes...you do need to worry about it.

3. RHD has no bearing on a cars legality in the U.S. I have a friend in Iowa that has a RHD British roadster of some sort, and it's fully legal to drive on U.S. roads. It's well over the 25 year old mark, but still...

4. Canadian registration, I can't honestly say what would happen. I would think that you would somehow have to prove residency in Canada which would mean figuring out how to go about that.

As for getting Canadian citizen ship...would you have to renounce your U.S. citizenship? I know here in Japan, if I wanted to become a Japanese citizen, I would have to give up my U.S. citizenship, and I am not about to do that. I'll just stay as a registered permanent resident.

NOW. With all that said, I will say this once again.

While we are not against buying grey market vehicles, we just want you all to be well informed on the rules and risks associated with trying to get the over-hyped Skyline (and yes, I own one!).


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HTSA (national highway traffic association) is the government agency that federally releases the car. Their is a letter issued by VIN from them to all Motorex'd cars that were broght in legally. If you do not have this letter, the chances are pretty high that it is a grey market car. I have this letter. I will not publish tis letter on the internet in fear of scammers using it to their advantage and frauding even more people.

You want a skyline in Japan? Go vintage. If notthen you could get a R30 and be 49 state legal. Guess where you cannot register it. Ca. Mine is legal here in Ca because it came here way back in 1991 and I have all the legal documents for the car to show.


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