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http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok....html

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Quote »In addition to the two Yahoo accounts that were already known -- including one that was hacked earlier this month -- the Washington Post has learned that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin had a third private e-mail account on a closed network that she and staff used to communicate outside of the government's official e-mail system.

The owner of ITS Alaska, a tech company based in Wasilla, told the Post that a discreet e-mail system was set up this last spring under the domain that Palin had used for her campaign for governor -- PalinForGovernor.com -- and that access to the system was confined to "her closest confidants and co-workers and advisers and the person she sleeps with."

An ITS worker said there appeared to have been 10 to 15 addresses set up under the domain, but they were all shut down on September 17 after a hacker penetrated one of Palin's private Yahoo e-mail accounts and posted some of its contents online.[/quote]So are you more concerned with your potential next president feeling the need to hide her work for the state she runs or that somebody found out?


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I'm personally more concerned with what Obama is hiding.

...and that people are hacking her account to find this stuff out while if Obama's stuff were to get hacked there would be an absolute uproar about it. But nooooo... not it Palin's case, she shouldn't have any privacy should she?

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for what its worth, I am of the opinion that information is information in something like this. There was an uproar over her email being hacked. There would be an uproar over Obama being hacked as well...However thats all irrelevant when it proves that our elected (or potential elected) officials are hiding things from us.

Of not here is that there are laws in place saying that this is STRICTLY against the law.

and oh just to throw it out there, what exactly IS Obama hiding or is your concern just that he MIGHT be hiding something

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I just have a feeling he's hiding something big, is all.

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Kinda like what having 3 external emails that you use to hide your business doings from your bosses (the citizens) would imply?

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I would like to see what Palin is hiding. And if she is hiding something it would be good to know. In an open Government we have our emails to other Gov't people on an open record.

There hasn't been any explaination from Palin on the matter yet so none of us can make a judgment about it. There could be a reasonable explaination about the other email accounts so lets not judge too quickly .

mtcookson,

Let's not adopt the Lib's tactics by attacking their candidate rather discussing the topic at hand. It is very annoying as we all know.

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Actually, it looks like much ado about nothing.

How many of our elected offficials "talk shop" on private cell phones?

How many of them have face-to-face discussions over dinner or drinks?

Should we demand those conversations be recorded for public scrutiny?

For what it's worth, I'd feel the same if this was about BO and JB.

Read up on the law. I used to audit PACR Compliance (Public Access to Court Records).

Public records laws don't mandate that anything work-related be accessible, just that communications over a taxpayer-funded system be accessible after a proper inquiry process.

Information that's relevant to an accusation or allegation is always accessible via subpoena.

This is a simple deflection of attention away from a serious commission of a crime (hacking).

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dusred wrote:mtcookson,

Let's not adopt the Lib's tactics by attacking their candidate rather discussing the topic at hand. It is very annoying as we all know.
I'm not attacking Obama at all, at least I don't think I am...

I'm just saying that if we're going to pry into Palin's "secrets" I would like to see Obama's as well as I'm sure he has some really good ones.

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AZhitman wrote:Read up on the law. I used to audit PACR Compliance (Public Access to Court Records).

Public records laws don't mandate that anything work-related be accessible, just that communications over a taxpayer-funded system be accessible after a proper inquiry process.

Information that's relevant to an accusation or allegation is always accessible via subpoena.

This is a simple deflection of attention away from a serious commission of a crime (hacking).
I'm gonna take the end part first. This kid should definitely be prosecuted because this is illegal and it is WRONG to even try to hack into someones personal correspondence. For all he knew, this could have been completely a personal email address. The fact that it wasn't is not a reason to praise him, however it should not invalidate the materials gathered given what they turned out to be.

That being said, Greg you should know just as well as anyone that there is a good reason these things are contained on internal managed IT networks...so that some punk kid from TN can't get into the governor's email by GUESSING HER PASSWORD.

The other thing your missing (back to the first part here) is that its when a supoena or FOIA (more commonly FOIA) request is made, those materials need to be handed over...they shouldn't be forced to battle Yahoo (a private entity) in court to get things they are entitled to under a law that is strictly between a citizen and their government.

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I could give you my work email username, password and domain and you still won't be able to get into my email. Not unless you have my secure token ID, PIN, network username and password. Its quite a pain to login from home.bud

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Cold_Zero wrote:I could give you my work email username, password and domain and you still won't be able to get into my email. Not unless you have my secure token ID, PIN, network username and password. Its quite a pain to login from home.bud
just to clarify bud...are you the governor of a state?

CZ for VP '08! He done knows network security!...might not leak the name of CIA operatives.

Lets just hope shes doessn't start talking bout FISA on the internal Alaska state google group

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skylndrftr wrote:
just to clarify bud...are you the governor of a state?
Uh no, but I play one on TV

Quote »CZ for VP '08! He done knows network security!...might not leak the name of CIA operatives.[/quote]I am Bud McCain Obama and I approve this ad! Seriously, I doubt the state of Alaska has anything on us. I have access to 10 million borrower's records on over $126.9 billion dollars worth of loans. I guess my point was that we go out of our way to make sure everything (such as email) is secure. Shouldn't be any sweat off of Alaska's or the Governor’s Office to secure her emails. It really is not that hard.


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