Another Emanage Q

[Chezedik]

Okay, so I searched, and now it is about as clear as mud. On the Greddy website, they say that injector control is only +/-20, can the injector harness allow for more correction? Also, can an aftermarket MAF such as the N62 be used with it? I have N62 and 550s, and if I can't make it work, then I need to know before I buy it, you know? Any input will be much appreciated.

[Iamjohnhayes]

im assuming your speaking of emanage blue b/c ultimate has full injector control. i am not exactly sure about the n62 b/c its engine is not listed in the drop down menu for when you want to switch mafs, however if you can find someone who knows the "hotwire" code for it you can use it.

[Chezedik]

What "hot wire" code? Can the 550s be used with the injector harness since you are then given control of the injector duty cycle? Where do I find these hot-wire codes?

[Chezedik]

Also, with emanage can't you just convert to MAP?

[teddy]

Also, with emanage can't you just convert to MAP?

No. You can use their optional pressure sensor, which reads pressure instead of airflow. You can set the emanage up so once you move into boost, the emanage reads off of the pressure instead of airflow. But you must have the maf hooked up as well in order for this to work correctly.

You SHOULD(don't quote me on this) be able to run 550's if you're using the support tool on a laptop. The emanage is suppose to be able to control injectors up to 150% larger than stock. You could either interpret this to mean that 150% bigger means 675cc or 405cc injectors. I remember reading that the happy medium is around 80% larger for most cars before you start to overrun the abilities of the e-manage, depending on the ecu as well. Nissan ecu's are a little more forgiving and lenient comared to some cars. On the support tools main window, you can type in the original size, and the new size, and it creates the new injector value and corrects the maps for you.

The hotwire are the in and out values that allow the e-manage to correct the voltage to run the correct maf properly.

The +/- 20 is speaking about only using the e-manage by itself. When using the support tool, you get quite a few more options to tinker with. The support tool can be had for free if you know where to look.

[Iamjohnhayes]

No. You can use their optional pressure sensor, which reads pressure instead of airflow. You can set the emanage up so once you move into boost, the emanage reads off of the pressure instead of airflow. But you must have the maf hooked up as well in order for this to work correctly.

You SHOULD(don't quote me on this) be able to run 550's if you're using the support tool on a laptop. The emanage is suppose to be able to control injectors up to 150% larger than stock. You could either interpret this to mean that 150% bigger means 675cc or 405cc injectors. I remember reading that the happy medium is around 80% larger for most cars before you start to overrun the abilities of the e-manage, depending on the ecu as well. Nissan ecu's are a little more forgiving and lenient comared to some cars. On the support tools main window, you can type in the original size, and the new size, and it creates the new injector value and corrects the maps for you.

The hotwire are the in and out values that allow the e-manage to correct the voltage to run the correct maf properly.

The +/- 20 is speaking about only using the e-manage by itself. When using the support tool, you get quite a few more options to tinker with. The support tool can be had for free if you know where to look.

the blue can use a map when in boost and a maf while out of boost. The ultimate can get rid of the mafs all together but i wouldn't recomend it because, you will have to retune after everymod for your car to run right.

The Blue will support 550's

[Chezedik]

Well, what about the info for the new N62? Is there a forum for e-manage or something like that? And with the ignition/injector harnesses are you given more (or less) total control since it controls the grounds after that, or do you still basically work off the stock maps?

[Iamjohnhayes]

which emanage do you plan to use?

[95 kat]

I believe that you can run blue with 550's and n62. I have both of those but I havent gotten to hook mine up yet. Also if you search on here there is a that has what you need to turn the dials to run a 300zx maf. I believe that if you go to the top thread that says "great info read here first" It has a write up on the wiring and tuning info of the emanage. Hope this helps.

[teddy]

Well, what about the info for the new N62? Is there a forum for e-manage or something like that? And with the ignition/injector harnesses are you given more (or less) total control since it controls the grounds after that, or do you still basically work off the stock maps?

Ok. The settings for the N62 are as follows. You have two options. You can set the 2nd and 3rd dials on the circuit board to 0 and 1 which are the stock maf settings for hooking an e-manage up to a 300zx. Or, you can set up the circuit board for the ka24, then when you run the support tool, it will have a maf hotwire option in a drag down menu. You would want to select NS_HW2, which would then allow you to run the 300zx maf.

Edit: There is a yahoo group called emanage, that has a database of links for diy parts, answers to lots of questions, and you can dload the support tool and all updates there for free.

[Chezedik]

Emanage blue, and you guys have been a ton of help, I am excited about this all over again. Have any of you ever used one? How do they compare to controlling an SAFC? I assume a little more involved, but by a lot?

[teddy]

I have an emanage blue hooked up to my car. I really don't have much experience with safc's, but the e-manage has some added features that neither version safc does. It's also really nice to have 16x16 tables of your fuel map and ignition map. Having a lot of the optional harnesses really opens up a lot of features.

For example. You can purchase a knock sensor harness that lets you tap into the knock signal and wire it to the e-manage. The emanage is notorious for pulling timing, and having one of these helps prevent that. You can also buy the a/f harness, so if your wideband has an extra output signal, you can run it to the emanage, and it will datalog that into your tables. That's a big bonus when for tuning purposes.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html This website has about any additional parts for emanage that are available. I think you'll really enjoy the emanage. I mean, I would obviously rather have the ultimate, but they're just too expensive right now. I could build a megasquirt for the same price.

I actually have a question about this. The optional pressure sensor gives you a more accurate reading than the maf will, and you can use the pressure sensor readings instead of the maf when going into boost. But I also just read that you can use the pressure sensor when your maf/map limit is overrun. So does this mean, that instead of upgrading to a z32 when I pump up the boost, I could run a pressure sensor and stock maf and it will work fine?

[Chezedik]

That was the way I read it.

[crzycav86]

Emanage blue, and you guys have been a ton of help, I am excited about this all over again. Have any of you ever used one? How do they compare to controlling an SAFC? I assume a little more involved, but by a lot?

the emanage is better than the safc.

The advantage safc has over the emanage is that it has its own interface and it's slightly less expensive(or at least it was when i got mine). You need a laptop to tune the emanage, but allows a lot more control.

If I had to do things over again, i would have went with the emanage instead of the safc, but the safc does its job just fine.

[hek1620]

i have a brand new blue ready to go with additional ignition harness if ur interested.

[Chezedik]

Already bought mine, with injector and ignition harness. Thank you though.

[yashin]

I actually have a question about this. The optional pressure sensor gives you a more accurate reading than the maf will, and you can use the pressure sensor readings instead of the maf when going into boost. But I also just read that you can use the pressure sensor when your maf/map limit is overrun. So does this mean, that instead of upgrading to a z32 when I pump up the boost, I could run a pressure sensor and stock maf and it will work fine?

I was wondering this as well. From what I've read this seems to be the case. Can anyone confirm this, so that money isn't wasted on an unnecessary part?

[Chezedik]

I think that is how they mention it on the greddy site. How about this one, can it do hot wire correction like SAFC can?

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Thread Resurrection!

I just got an N62 MAF, and the emanage was originally set for the KA MAF. (Dials on the circuit board are... what, 2 and 4? I don't remember, and pull down menu Nissan HW_7). I am currently running 370cc injectors, but am planning on running 550s in the near future.

From what I have gathered, I can leave the dials on the circuit alone, and just select NS-HW_2 from the pull down menu, and then leave everything else the same?

I also thought I read somewhere that I would have to do NS-HW_2 and then change my correction from 270-370 back to 270-270.

Thoughts?

[Chezedik]

You can change the MAF in the drop down or in the switches. If you use the switches you need to put the injector value to stock IIRC, otherwise you use the drop down, and then use 370 correction.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

alright cool. Another question. If I get a tuned ECU for all the previously mentioned stuff, do I basically leave everything like 0 correction? (What kind of pin/maf settings would I put it at?) Thanks man I really appreciate it.