Another crazy thought - front knuckle from murano(?) or something similar

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yello!

it puzzles me that rogues suspension is s*** by design - only toe can be adjusted (like cars in 80s-90s), but camber is not (yet, on rear it is adjustable)
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so - has anybody seen/done front strut/knuckle installed from car that has ability to adjust not just toe, but camber too? if yes - any details? like did it fit plug&play, or some minor modifications required...?


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The aftermarket sells camber kits if it needs to be adjusted. They're offset screws which replace the clamp screws at the base of the strut and allow the knuckle to be tilted inboard-outboard.
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that is a bit different story.

here is t32 rogue(2row, if it matters - not sure) front knuckle:
https://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/resourc ... a96e0d.png


seems that 3row has the same design:
https://parts.nissanusa.com/a/Nissan_20 ... _400A.html

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Here's an iso of the actual gen2 knuckle, 40014-4BA0A 40015-4BA0A. The eccentric screws go in at the arrows in one or both holes (both gives you double the adjustment span) and allow you to tilt the knuckle relative to the strut, thus adjusting the camber. The kits generally cost under $25 and there's no need to find a knuckle from a different model.

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there is definately something finicky.
https://parts.nissanusa.com/p/Nissan__/ ... 4BA0A.html this shows knuckle with 2 screws for attaching strut

https://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/parts/n ... REM;6=CVT)
this links shows same part number and different knuckle - with SINGLE screw attaching strut (as it is in real life on our t32)...

this screenshot
https://prnt.sc/h-5rUZP7RPyi
is from FSM...

wtf?!

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entered VIN into parts.nissanusa.com
https://prnt.sc/YJ3bmcrCXz57

on big diagram - with one bolt, on parts list with particular knuckles - with two bolts...

holly-molly...

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I might be getting my models mixed up, I dunno. I'll take a refresher look at a gen2 when I'm back at the shop on Wednesday. The ones with a single bolt and single bushing are problematic, you're right. The only ways to adjust those that I'm aware of is a slotted spacer for the shock towers or an eccentric bolt on the LCA bushing. The latter works okay, but because of the geometry doesn't offer nearly as much adjustment as you get with a 2-bolt type. It's pulling in the whole LCA instead of tilting the knuckle.

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if you find something - let me know. will go to mess with local dealership parts guy... :D

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I had a look at a neighbor's '17 about an hour ago and it does have the single-bolt clamp setup. Sorry, I don't do much suspension work anymore and my memory frankly sucks. I just talked to the suspension guy at the body shop and he says he uses an eccentric on the rear LCA bushing when he needs a small amount of adjustment, and it's usually enough to correct for a minor negative problem like weak springs. You can also enlarge the front two holes in the strut tower to get a little more by rotating the crown of the strut. Of course you can slot all three tower holes, but slotting gets complicated as opposed to drilling. Excess positive is rarely an issue except with a lift, but that's easier to correct because you can shim the front LCA mount in addition to an eccentric at the back. There's nothing particularly easy and none of it will get you enough span to compensate for a serious negative issue like really bad springs.

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hm... eccentric on rear bushing on LCA would be more caster related, but anyways - good idea... do they have like "tried and true" recipe or just measure and go to store/catalog?
good idea would be to make them as on subaru STIs - with that spherical bearing (or whatever it is called).

about shims in LCAs front mounting point - are there partnumbers or hints where to get those? I think I have seen them somewhere, but no idea where to look for now :D (nevermind googled something to start with)

overall - since I still dream about v6 swap(like altimas used to have 3.5) - I will have to address front suspension at some point. then it would be good time to do some suspension too :D

Anyways - thanks for input, it pushed me further then I was looking!

p.s. parts guy at nissan had no clue either :D

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V6er wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:01 am
hm... eccentric on rear bushing on LCA would be more caster related, but anyways - good idea... do they have like "tried and true" recipe or just measure and go to store/catalog?
good idea would be to make them as on subaru STIs - with that spherical bearing (or whatever it is called).
It has a small effect on the caster too, but emphasis on "small". Like I said earlier, you can't get a whole lot of adjustment from anything that moves the whole arm. Camber wears out tires, caster doesn't, so if there's a little more or less tracking after the adjustment, c'est la vie.
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Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:01 am
about shims in LCAs front mounting point - are there partnumbers or hints where to get those? I think I have seen them somewhere, but no idea where to look for now :D (nevermind googled something to start with)
I don't have a part number, but I know the aftermarket makes them for lifts. There are plenty of precision shims out there going all the way back to antiquity. In the old school, shimming the UCA was a very typical method for caster/camber adjustment.
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Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:01 am
overall - since I still dream about v6 swap(like altimas used to have 3.5) - I will have to address front suspension at some point. then it would be good time to do some suspension too :D
Swap the whole subframe and suspension, you're gonna need a different transmission for the V6 anyway. ;)

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Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:14 am
Swap the whole subframe and suspension, you're gonna need a different transmission for the V6 anyway. ;)
a lot of open questions... was thinking of taking engine+transmission from pathfinders with their ZF9hp... but... not sure yet :D


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