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GetSerious
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I am in the 82nd Airborne Division and about to go to Afghanistan for 12-18 months, but when i get back I plan on buying a 95 240sx. I have wanted one for awhile now due to the potential they have. I know you have your s13,s14 and then the s15, but would it be that big of an issue which one i bought if i planned on immediatley doing and engine swap to an sr20det or even an rb26dett? 18 months in the sand box accumlulates quite a bit of cash so I can do everything right and to whatever level i want, so I am open to any ideas anyone might have. I had a AWD Talon in high school that i had making about 290 whp. My goal for this car my sounds unecessary, but i am shooting for 600 whp. Any suggestion on a couple different setups to acheive this would be helpful. Thanks for the help, and bear with the "newbie" questions. We gotta crawl before we walk.


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gogg
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240s arent really drag cars, but the engine you'd be best going with is a rb25 or 2jz.

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Welcome man, I probably wouldn't go with a 240SX to make 600 WHP though. If you want to do that, I would look at a 300ZX with a big single turbo kit. However, if you did really want that 240SX, look at an RB26DETT then.

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Is this going to be a streetable car?

Not saying 600 horsies isnt drivable street... its just a very VERY Scary thing to do. Not recommended for those wanting to live one of those long satisfying lives

Rb26dett converted to a single LARGE turbo. Standalone for management. BIG injectors... large fuel pump... get a good sized fmic with large as possible piping. 3 inch exhaust. Ideas is as much air and fuel as possible in.. as little resistence to the exhaust exiting the engine. Upgraded cams will help with this as well. You will need good hardware holding the head to the block with that much hp. You have lots of options...

Google search a "rb24" or "rb24det" .. its a hybrid motor... Crank out of an rb26 in a rb20 block I think.. its been a while since i read about it.. supposed to be a monster!


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the difference between a 450 hp and a 600 hp car isnt all that noticable on the street as traction owns all.

I think it might be wise to pursue time goals like " I want a car that can dip into the hi 12's" (viper low 12's), which may be achievable with a lot less power than you might think with cars as light as some 240SX's

Oh yeah and

Fred..


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One of our most well remeered members of this club Paul Souder would go viper hunting in a SR20 powered S14.

Fred..:

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Hahaaha!!! It's nice to see someone else who is in the army on this board. Infantry or something else? I was in 4 years as an infantryman. I did 3 years at Ft. Benning and one year in Korea....So you might call me a "leg"....lol!! Anyway you ought to make a list of goals you want to be able to accomplish with this car and then build your car to fit those needs. Keep us updated while your over there bro...

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I was a leg too a Redleg,

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Graduate of the Benning School for Boys here as well.

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I am set on getting a 240. I hear from numerous people that they are not "drag cars", but that is one of the reasons I want one. I want the power with the handling capabilities as well. Good point made however on the goals based on time instead of HP. I would like to shoot for the low 12's as mentioned. I have been planning this for awhile, and have another year to fine tune the ideas, but at this time i plan on going with either greddy T6725g turbo setup or depending on what I can find maybe bumping up to T88 33/34 D's. I pretty much have my parts list made out to include forged pistons,connecting rods, camshafts, head bolt kit, intake manifold, 3 way intercooler kti, gredy tr exhaust sytstem, injectorsm valves srpings, oil cooler, Profec, emanage sytstem....the list goes on and on. I am fortuante to be able to build my dream car in a short amount of time once I begin. I would like any suggestions however on parts or installs that would maximize power or any tips and trick you guys may have learned the hard way. I m not forgetting the supension or brakes either...so know one has to say you got all that power but can you control it.

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Here's another option: turbocharged KA24DE; http://www.phatka-t.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=101

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If you are gonna spend the money to build internals KAT becomes a real viable option ( not that it isnt otherwise).

High 12's (or even better) have been shown to be doable even on stock internals on a well sorted SR.

RB25DET obviously can also go to this level wiht less sorting.

Be sure to check our SR forum:zeroforum?id=138Our KAT forum:zeroforum?id=170Our RB forum:zeroforum?id=135

Fred..

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GetSerious wrote:... I know you have your s13,s14 and then the s15..
the 240sx never got to become an S15, for some reason nissan didnt give us that sexy body. bastards

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400 is obtainable with stock internals its still streetable because turbo hit until the upper rpms

600 is obtainable with built internals. be ready to have spare blocks lying around running 25+lbs psi is pretty scary even if it doesnt break into high rpms at all times.

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Juujai wrote:400 is obtainable with stock internals its still streetable because turbo hit until the upper rpms

600 is obtainable with built internals. be ready to have spare blocks lying around running 25+lbs psi is pretty scary even if it doesnt break into high rpms at all times.
This brings me back to a point that I had just said somewhere else, sure 600 HP peak is a pretty big number, but if you want to drive it on the street, a nicer linear curve is probably what you want.

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I've seen people get into the 12's in a 240sx with less than 275hp (with a car made for autocrossing). Why spend the extra $10000 getting 600hp when a well sorted package will do very good all around.

There are three things you need to be fast: good tires, good brakes, and mad skills.

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^-------w3rd

the sr is made for boost and can take alot......forget internals, just get a nice ecu, maybe build the head a little, a nice turbo and such

and remember weight reduction is the cheapest mod that works!

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Honestly, if you want a 600hp 240sx, the cheapest way to do that is the Aries method, i.e. a big American V8.

What happened to him anyway? I haven't seem him on here in ages.

I'm fairly certain that you could get 600hp out of a big V8 with a blower on it without much issue. I dunno what that'd do to your handling however, probably nothing good.

Personally, I want a 250hp 10,000rpm TODA SR20DE.....but I'll never have one

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WHat was your unit in the ITB? I was at B.CO. 1/15 INF, then went from there across the way to Kelley Hill B.CO. 1/19 INF....Did you ever get to do some partying in columbus, GA.? I miss the weather in GA.....NY has some crappy weather although right now we have been having some decent weather..

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I was Echo 2/19 for ITB. I am currently at Ft. Bragg, 3/504 Parachute Infantry Regiment. I just found out today that I am no deploying to Afghanistan, but rather my orders finally came through to go back to SFAS. This will speed up the time in which i get the car, but limit my funds. I may be looking at a whole new approach now. I guess we will see.

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My friend Jon Dieudonne was out of Ft. Bragg and he was in the 82nd Airborne too. I wonder if you two know each other at all.

He just got out recently.

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PalmerWMD wrote:the difference between a 450 hp and a 600 hp car isnt all that noticable on the street as traction owns all.
Very good point!

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Rosco wrote:WHat was your unit in the ITB? I was at B.CO. 1/15 INF, then went from there across the way to Kelley Hill B.CO. 1/19 INF....Did you ever get to do some partying in columbus, GA.? I miss the weather in GA.....NY has some crappy weather although right now we have been having some decent weather..
lol, when i just read the first sentence i was like...ITB??? what about individual throttle bodies?...then i realized it was an army thing

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Ft. Bragg is an awesome post, I tried to get there but got my leg totally effed up on my 2nd jump, so they sent me to Korea, what a ****hole.
Rosco wrote:Hahaaha!!! It's nice to see someone else who is in the army on this board. Infantry or something else? I was in 4 years as an infantryman. I did 3 years at Ft. Benning and one year in Korea....So you might call me a "leg"....lol!! Anyway you ought to make a list of goals you want to be able to accomplish with this car and then build your car to fit those needs. Keep us updated while your over there bro...
Where were you in Korea? TDC or up on the DMZ? I was at Camp Howze, waaaaaay up on top of the monster hill(60 degrees for 1/2 mile). I liked Benning while I was there, Columbus is a cesspool but hey you're just 2 hours from Panama City woohoo, anyone say PARTY?

I wouldn't suggest shooting for 60oHP, not for the street anyways, especially with the road in NC. About the highest you should go is the 350-400 range. With 400 HP you will make the torque needed to get off the line, after that it's on you for the times. You could have an 800 HP car and still only run mid 13's if you don't know how to do run drags and have proper shifting technique. The clock starts as soon as you let off the brake so if you don't have traction for the first 8-10 feet you will lose precious seconds.

240's are more for AutoX and Drifting than anythign else, only S13/14/15 drag car I've only ever seen was was the HKS 180sx drag car but it had an RB25DETT in it and was proffessionally built. If you got money to burn get the Toda built SR20DET used the GT300 Silvias, that is if they'll seel you one, they don't just sell those to the general public.


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