An Obama perspective from a Co-Worker.

[dusred]

Before I start out here I Congratulate the Nico Lib's for their victory last night.

I was talking to a Co-Worker yesterday around noon right before she was gong to vote. I asked her who she was going to vote for and she said "Barack Obama". I looked at her with the look of WTF? on my face and asked her what would make her choose Obama? She said that the reason she was going to vote Obama is because she knew things about McCain that she didn't like, and naturally I asked what it was that she didn't like about McCain that would make her vote Obama? She said "I heard that he cheated on his Ex Wife and dumped her" (just a side note this Co-Worker was dumped by her husband a few years back and has been raising her 4 children alone).

I honestly didn't know what to say. I didn't know anyone cared about Mc Cain's ex wife or Obama's connections with terrorists etc. since that's how it is here on Nico. So I started asking her about real issues such as the War and the Economy and she didn't have a clue about the economy and was in favor of the war. I then asked her about Abortion and she said she was VERY against it.

So, I decided to try something on her. I began telling her all the rotten things about McCain that I could think of that have been going around the Media such as McCain's Ex Wife, McCain's picking Sarah Palin just because she is a woman, Palin's pregnant teenager, and all these issues that we call "Non-Issues". She was appalled and said that she was for sure voting Obama. I then told her a few things about Obama that were proven fact. I told her about Obama's Pastor and Bill Ayres. I told her that he was going to pull the troops out of Iraq.

I think she ended up just skipping the voting process but anyway I thought it was interesting how she choose her candidate. She chose based on personal dislikes without even looking at any issues at all. Her perspective of someone who should run the country was how they treated their wife and other political bull ****.

I wonder how many other American's fell into the same trap she did?

[OriginalWheelman]

Well she based her vote entirely on her perception of his character. Unfortunately, it happens. Ask her if she know McCain agreed to pay her medical bills for life when they got divorced? We Do not know what happened to these people. For all we know she had moved on, after all McCain was held for several years. I imagine by the time he came home they didn't even know each other anymore. That was my interpretation of past from the evidence presented.

[HashiriyaS14]

Plenty of people vote on perceived character rather than on issues.

I don't like it, but it isn't a uniquely Democratic affliction by a long shot, I'd say it applies just about equally to both sides.

It's silly and stupid, but plenty of people do it. Elections are popularity contests for many Americans.

Too bad.

[Encryptshun]

Ignorance and laziness are not traps.

Each party's election committee deliberately spreading lies, half-truths, and opinion disguised as fact to PREY upon the ignorant and lazy IS entrapment.

I hope your co-worker did not cast a ballot -- she did not deserve to.

I also hope that you understand your own potential hypocracy, because it is strongly evident in your post above. I don't know what you presented to your co-worker as "facts" concerning Obama or how you presented those "facts", but I'd be interested to know word for word what you said. Not one single professional dirt-digger was able to tie Obama to Wright or Ayers in any meaningful or specifically onorous way, so I'd be surprised if you did.

[dusred]

I also hope that you understand your own potential hypocracy, because it is strongly evident in your post above. I don't know what you presented to your co-worker as "facts" concerning Obama or how you presented those "facts", but I'd be interested to know word for word what you said. Not one single professional dirt-digger was able to tie Obama to Wright or Ayers in any meaningful or specifically onorous way, so I'd be surprised if you did.

Don't get me started. . . It's over now so it doesn't really matter. Is what I meant by that is I didn't dig up stuff like him being a Muslim and possibly not even being an American Citizen and other crazy stuff like that where there is no proof.

Edit- She ended up not voting (thank goodness). Also note that I'm a Conservative and not necessarily a McCain Supporter. I felt that McCain was the lesser of the evils in this election and that is the only reason I spoke in his behalf when I have.

[Encryptshun]

Ah, I see. I am not surprised that you refuse to answer the question.

And by the way, I was just ranting to a co-worker about the fact that CNN is still running stories bashing Palin and saying she is the reason that McCain lost. There is no whore like the whore of the network news.

[dusred]

Ah, I see. I am not surprised that you refuse to answer the question.

And by the way, I was just ranting to a co-worker about the fact that CNN is still running stories bashing Palin and saying she is the reason that McCain lost. There is no whore like the whore of the network news.

Oh cut it out! If you really want to dig it up I'm willing to have at it with you. Where did Obama launch his "historical" Campaign? It was at Bill Ayres house.

I don't agree with Obama on most issues but one thing I do agree with him on is the War and the sooner the troops are home the better IMO.

[heliochrome85]

Oh cut it out! If you really want to dig it up I'm willing to have at it with you. Where did Obama launch his "historic" campaign? It was at Bill Ayres house.

I don't agree with Obama on most issues but one thing I do agree with him on is the War and the sooner the troops are home the better IMO.

FTFY

are you done yet? keep digging yourself that hole, maybe you will reach china. you know, that place where the republicans sent all of our jobs.

[Encryptshun]

Oh cut it out! If you really want to dig it up I'm willing to have at it with you. Where did Obama launch his "historical" Campaign? It was at Bill Ayres house.

I don't agree with Obama on most issues but one thing I do agree with him on is the War and the sooner the troops are home the better IMO.

Meh. Like you said, the election is over. Besides, you pretty much gave me what I was looking for with that example you just noted.

Thanks!

[dusred]

Meh. Like you said, the election is over. Besides, you pretty much gave me what I was looking for with that example you just noted.

Thanks!

Peace?

[Encryptshun]

I didn't realize we were at war.

but okay. Let's go smoke some weed, read the Bible, kill a fetus and watch gays get married while giving our money to the poor!

Then we will truly be Independent.

[dusred]

I didn't realize we were at war.

but okay. Let's go smoke some weed, read the Bible, kill a fetus and watch gays get married while giving our money to the poor!

Then we will truly be Independent.

HOLY CRAP THAT WAS FUNNY

Edit- sigg'd

[barrigas14]

Before I start out here I Congratulate the Nico Lib's for their victory last night.

I was talking to a Co-Worker yesterday around noon right before she was gong to vote. I asked her who she was going to vote for and she said "Barack Obama". I looked at her with the look of WTF? on my face and asked her what would make her choose Obama? She said that the reason she was going to vote Obama is because she knew things about McCain that she didn't like, and naturally I asked what it was that she didn't like about McCain that would make her vote Obama? She said "I heard that he cheated on his Ex Wife and dumped her" (just a side note this Co-Worker was dumped by her husband a few years back and has been raising her 4 children alone).

I honestly didn't know what to say. I didn't know anyone cared about Mc Cain's ex wife or Obama's connections with terrorists etc. since that's how it is here on Nico. So I started asking her about real issues such as the War and the Economy and she didn't have a clue about the economy and was in favor of the war. I then asked her about Abortion and she said she was VERY against it.

So, I decided to try something on her. I began telling her all the rotten things about McCain that I could think of that have been going around the Media such as McCain's Ex Wife, McCain's picking Sarah Palin just because she is a woman, Palin's pregnant teenager, and all these issues that we call "Non-Issues". She was appalled and said that she was for sure voting Obama. I then told her a few things about Obama that were proven fact. I told her about Obama's Pastor and Bill Ayres. I told her that he was going to pull the troops out of Iraq.

I think she ended up just skipping the voting process but anyway I thought it was interesting how she choose her candidate. She chose based on personal dislikes without even looking at any issues at all. Her perspective of someone who should run the country was how they treated their wife and other political bull ****.

I wonder how many other American's fell into the same trap she did?

I hate it when others do **** like this to someone. Just because that woman was voting for someone else you decided to take it upon your self to change her mind.

Who cares if she didn't know this or that. I bet the majority of people don't know. But to blatantly go after someone and her beliefs is selfish. You should have just let her go about her way.

That is perhaps the most unAmerican thing I've seen someone do. Completely try to make another not vote.

[wingFeather]

I wonder how many other American's fell into the same trap she did?

52%

[Loki]

I hate it when others do **** like this to someone. Just because that woman was voting for someone else you decided to take it upon your self to change her mind.

Who cares if she didn't know this or that. I bet the majority of people don't know. But to blatantly go after someone and her beliefs is selfish. You should have just let her go about her way.

That is perhaps the most unAmerican thing I've seen someone do. Completely try to make another not vote.

I would have to agree. If she had said she was voting for McCain, you would have said "Oh cool," and been on your merry way, even if she was voting for McCain on the same basis of "non-issues". America is full of idiots. They make their choices poorly. Sorry to ruin the surprise for you.

[Jesda]

Most voters, from both sides, are very shallow. This is why I discourage get-out-the-vote initiatives.

[OriginalWheelman]

FTFY

are you done yet? keep digging yourself that hole, maybe you will reach china. you know, that place where the republicans sent all of our jobs.

As opposed to Clinton sending them to Mexico and Canada?

[Jesda]

are you done yet? keep digging yourself that hole, maybe you will reach china. you know, that place where the republicans sent all of our jobs.

Way to completely misunderstand global economics.

The availability and low cost of international communication has resulted in a dramatic increase in worldwide prosperity and some decline in the quantity of starving people.

This explosion in communication and technology unfortunately also resulted in emerging markets where labor is cheaper and people are just as capable of performing tasks. This kept the cost of living for most households from rising further.

Bush 41 and Clinton both wanted to open borders and open us to trade with foreign nations, as Bush 42 carried on the same agenda. Its been good for American households, good for shareholders, and beneficial to American firms.

MNCs should not be punished or rewarded for their employment practices. Keep government out.

[Sentientbydesign]

I hate it when others do **** like this to someone. Just because that woman was voting for someone else you decided to take it upon your self to change her mind.

Who cares if she didn't know this or that. I bet the majority of people don't know. But to blatantly go after someone and her beliefs is selfish. You should have just let her go about her way.

That is perhaps the most unAmerican thing I've seen someone do. Completely try to make another not vote.

You seriously need to get a clue.

We're talking about the future of over 250 million people and the world economy to an extent and you're complaining because some half-wit was easily swayed?

Seriously, step away from the partisan politics and what ever your presidential preference was and look at this from a logical, objective perspective.

[themadscientist]

I think voting should include a current events test. 64% and under you get a practice ballot and a pretty colored crayon so you still feel involved.

[ishkabibble]

I think the test should include a few logic problems.

[themadscientist]

Want to cause trouble for the extreme ends of thought eh, GOOD! I completely agree.

[ishkabibble]

Don't care that you agree.

[themadscientist]

don't care that you don't care. Your turn.

[E7-S14]

it may be true that people voted for Obama based on half trues and perception of character

but the same can be said about both sides.

everyone does it.just as HashiriyaS14 said.

hopefully there will come a day where EVERYONE votes after studying ALL factsinstead of half truths/hear say and flat out lies...

either way this is a step forward in Americas Historytime for us to become a remodel for other nations alike.

[dusred]

FTFY

are you done yet? keep digging yourself that hole, maybe you will reach china. you know, that place where the republicans sent all of our jobs.

If there was a point in that post I totally missed it. Srsly.

I hate it when others do **** like this to someone. Just because that woman was voting for someone else you decided to take it upon your self to change her mind.

Who cares if she didn't know this or that. I bet the majority of people don't know. But to blatantly go after someone and her beliefs is selfish. You should have just let her go about her way.

I get the feeling you are saying this because your candidate lost a vote. However, you don't know all the facts and the kind of person my Co-Worker is. She is VERY Conservative and that's why I was so shocked when she said Obama. And you may ask how I know she is conservative? I've known her all my life, in fact she used to change my diapers a few years ago and she is a very good friend of our family.

Quote »That is perhaps the most unAmerican thing I've seen someone do. Completely try to make another not vote. [/quote]I didn't make her not vote. She didn't vote because she felt that no candidate was good for her. UnAmerican? Don't start with me.

I would have to agree. If she had said she was voting for McCain, you would have said "Oh cool," and been on your merry way, even if she was voting for McCain on the same basis of "non-issues". America is full of idiots. They make their choices poorly. Sorry to ruin the surprise for you.

As I described in my above post, I was disturbed because I knew she didn't have a clue who she was voting for. She was voting blindly.

[mattblancarte]

I think voting should include a current events test. 64% and under you get a practice ballot and a pretty colored crayon so you still feel involved.

If you don't know at least 80% of this, you fail as an american.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blinstst.htm#1

[szh]

If you don't know at least 80% of this, you fail as an american.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blinstst.htm#1

The new test: http://usgovinfo.about.com/lib...w.htm started on October 1, 2008 is a little tougher.

Z

[JustinStrife]

I think voting should include a current events test. 64% and under you get a practice ballot and a pretty colored crayon so you still feel involved.

If you did that we'd only have 20% of people who voted to vote. I like the idea.

[Vista Sucks!]

I would have to agree. If she had said she was voting for McCain, you would have said "Oh cool," and been on your merry way, even if she was voting for McCain on the same basis of "non-issues".

This is absolutely true.