An appropriate honor.

[rn79870]

Reagan has his highways. Lincoln has his memorial. Washington has the capital, and a state, too. But President George W. Bush may soon be the sole president to have a memorial named after him that appropriately applies to his tenure.

The Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco is planning to ask voters here to change the name of a prize-winning water-treatment plant on the shoreline to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. There is considerable support for this endeavor.



I completely support bestowing this fine honor on a most deserving American. I hope that President Obama can dedicate it in late January 2009.

[HashiriyaS14]

HOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHEEEYIT!

That's hysterical, I sincerely hope they do it.

He's going to have a Nimitz carrier also, or does already, right?

[telcoman]

Reagan has his highways. Lincoln has his memorial. Washington has the capital, and a state, too. But President George W. Bush may soon be the sole president to have a memorial named after him that appropriately applies to his tenure.

The Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco is planning to ask voters here to change the name of a prize-winning water-treatment plant on the shoreline to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. There is considerable support for this endeavor.



I completely support bestowing this fine honor on a most deserving American. I hope that President Obama can dedicate it in late January 2009.

Count my vote!

[rn79870]

He's going to have a Nimitz carrier also, or does already, right?

Daddy Bush got the carrier. Junior Bush gets the sewage plant. Sometimes things just work out for the best.

[AZhitman]

Are we certain this isn't, ummmm, a hoax?

[rn79870]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372303,00.html

[telcoman]

Are we certain this isn't, ummmm, a hoax?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06...ef=us

Not if it appeared in The Nations Newspaper

Telcoman

[Repo Man]

Yeah, because the Times is an infallible news source.

[smockers83]

Pictures were done in Photoshop. Hasn't even been voted on. I don't mind if you don't like the guy, but honestly, learn at least a little bit of respect. Again this goes back to the thread in this area of equal protection...just because you can doesn't mean you should. Maybe we should rename a strip club or someone could name their escort service after Bill Clinton.

[rn79870]

I don't think it's a matter of liking or not liking Bush. It is more of a political statement regarding the quality of leadership he has provided. To that end, I think it is quite appropriate.

[ishkabibble]

Yeah, because the Times is an infallible news source.

Please refer us to an objective, infallible news source then.

[smockers83]

It is more of a political statement regarding the quality of leadership he has provided.

That's what I was getting at. And we wonder why we can't have bipartisan politics anymore, why our country is so divided between red and blue, and why everything is GOP vs Dem.

What would be funny is if in the future, Bush, as judged in hindsight and against history once everything can be analyzed, is said to be one of the better presidents of this country.

[ishkabibble]

I don't mind if you don't like the guy, but honestly, learn at least a little bit of respect.

Why? He's lost nearly everyone's respect. I feel it's appropriate, if not overly generous (something useful actually comes out of a sewage plant).

And we wonder why we can't have bipartisan politics anymore, why our country is so divided between red and blue, and why everything is GOP vs Dem.

Bipartisan politics stopped when the "compassionate conservative" and "uniter, not a divider" allowed the K Street Project to begin and The Hammer to take over Congress with unilateralism. Blame the neocons.

What would be funny is if in the future, Bush, as judged in hindsight and against history once everything can be analyzed, is said to be one of the better presidents of this country.

Zero chance of happening. We can analyze it right now. Nearly every policy has been a failure. The "history will judge him" talking point is nothing other than trying to delay accountability until nobody really cares anymore.

[smockers83]

Right, I'm not saying we have to honor him or remember him as a good president, but just let him go and we'll hopefully have a huge sigh of relief. And another thing, why would you want something to constantly remind you of it? We can't have more bipartisanship because each side attacks the other with stupid **** like this. Do I like him? No. But would I go out and do something like this? No. Its immature, something kids in middle school or high school would do.

Zero chance, most likely. It was just a thought.

[skylndrftr]

I don't mind if you don't like the guy, but honestly, learn at least a little bit of respect.

He's an alcoholic and a cocaine addict...I don't respect addicts.

[telcoman]

Right, I'm not saying we have to honor him or remember him as a good president, but just let him go and we'll hopefully have a huge sigh of relief. And another thing, why would you want something to constantly remind you of it? We can't have more bipartisanship because each side attacks the other with stupid **** like this. Do I like him? No. But would I go out and do something like this? No. Its immature, something kids in middle school or high school would do.

Zero chance, most likely. It was just a thought.

When is the other side going to forget about an inappropriate encounter with two consenting adults from the previous but one of the best presidents the United States ever had? If Hillary got over it why do they still keep bringing it up? We need and elect a president that has the ability to make intellegent decisions. Unfortunately we have had one for two terms that cannot.If those on the right practiced more oral sex we wouldn't have so many misguided individuals on this planet

Telcoman

[audtatious]

I don't think it's a matter of liking or not liking Bush. It is more of a political statement regarding the quality of leadership he has provided. To that end, I think it is quite appropriate.

Maybe Cali should concentrate more on fixing their own issues instead of making stupid political statements? While I did not care for some of Clintons actions in office I sure would not go about trying to rename the Mustang Ranch the "Clinton Resort" as it's a slap in the face of everyone in this country.

Please refer us to an objective, infallible news source then.

There aren't any. But based on some peoples viewpoints, Fox news and AM talk radio should go away as they are GOP leaning. Sounds good for those only wanting liberal viewpoints to be expressed to "help the cause" I guess.

He's an alcoholic and a cocaine addict...I don't respect addicts.

Then lets cancel out Obama for doing drugs as well.

[rn79870]

Maybe Cali should concentrate more on fixing their own issues instead of making stupid political statements? While I did not care for some of Clintons actions in office I sure would not go about trying to rename the Mustang Ranch the "Clinton Resort" as it's a slap in the face of everyone in this country.

Sure, let's compare an adult wrestling with the presidential alligator with GW's half trillion dollar war and an economy in the....uh.....sewer treatment plant.

Then lets cancel out Obama for doing drugs as well.

While that may not be the best thing on his resume, it still has a better sound than GWB's "honorable" military service.

Cali fix their own problems???....really... since when is the economy, the war, the employment outlook and illegal immigration not a national problem?

If those on the right practiced more oral sex we wouldn't have so many misguided individuals on this planet

the conservative curse?

[audtatious]

Sure, let's compare an adult wrestling with the presidential alligator with GW's half trillion dollar war and an economy in the....uh.....sewer treatment plant.

I'm not comparing anything and simply say it's BS and I would not have approved of the Clinton Ranch either (it is comical but not appropriate). I'm saying with the budget deficits and other BS going on in Cali (like bringing in illegal drug dealers and putting them in unsecured halfway homes so they can walk away) they should be concentrating on fixing their own internal problems instead of constantly making jabs at the current Administration that will be out of office in 6 months. If Cali was able to balance their own budget I would probably pay more attention to them as they may have something right. But they can't so I won't.

While that may not be the best thing on his resume, it still has a better sound than GWB's "honorable" military service.

Or lack of Obama having any military service? Remember the Democratic "3 questions to become president" quiz which put Kerry ahead of Bush? Where is that quiz now when it pertains to Obama and Mac?

Cali fix their own problems???....really... since when is the economy, the war, the employment outlook and illegal immigration not a national problem?

So, Cali doing good or bad is solely based on the federal Gov? Cali going way over budget is solely based on the federal Gov? Cali turning cities into illegal safe zones is solely based on the federal Gov? Cali running corporations and those with wealth out of their state is solely based on the federal Gov?

States need to do what is right for their residents. The fed Gov needs to keep their noses out of state business. States that present their way is the right way but can't balance their own budgets need to STFU.

the conservative curse?

Maybe, maybe not. The Dems have been in control of both houses for over 1.5 years and have done nothing at all. Since they took over, gas prices have gone through the roof and we have had the housing bubble burst. Do I fully blame them alone? Nope. I also don't put all the blame on GWB either. I blame the Gov as a whole. Where I do place blame on the Dems is their inability to reach 1/2 way across the isle to work out bi-partisan solutions. Not saying the Reps are great at it but they sure are more lenient to Dems than the other way around.

[skylndrftr]

Then lets cancel out Obama for doing drugs as well.

Notice I said addict, not havign done drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdeCl1ZDYwo

[audtatious]

Bush has admitted to having a drinking problem in his past but I do not see any proof of any form of cocaine addiction at all. From my perspective, I don't care if Obama nor Mac nor Bush tried drugs at some point in their youth as long as they are not doing them now.

[smockers83]

Cali fix their own problems???....really... since when is the economy, the war, the employment outlook and illegal immigration not a national problem?

No one made those your problems until you just did...except for illegal immigration. You guys do have a hand in that.

[rn79870]

No one made those your problems until you just did...except for illegal immigration. You guys do have a hand in that.

Really? Collectively they are not only my problems, but your problems as well. We're all in the same boat that Bush is intent on running aground on the shoals of recession and despair.

[rn79870]

Yes, we should point fingers and find blame with all those working so hard to drive the American way of life the toilet. In retrospect, Bush has been a walking, breathing disaster as president. However you put it, the Captain is responsible for his ship, and Bush must accept the responsibility of being the political disaster he has become.

Yes, California has it's problems, however it has never invaded a country and cost the U.S. taxpayers a 1/2 trillion plus dollars in the process. California hasn't stood hopelessly by as the economy tumbled, all the time proclaiming "all is well with the economy."

Maybe if Bush had been playing with some staff member under his desk instead of drunk driving the ship of state we'd all be enjoying a good economy and a more peacful world.

Just my opinion.

[smockers83]

Right....but you took audtatious's comment out of context is the point here. No one said Cali did any of that or is responsible until you decided to.

[rn79870]

No is blaming California, but comparing it. The analogy fails because, as bad as California might be, Arnie isn't a mongoloid. Can't say the same thing about Washington.

[audtatious]

Bush to blame for everything is very debatable. Do you feel we would be in the same spot if 9/11 didn't happen? I personally don't think so. 9 months in as President does not an attack make, it was a long time in coming to fruition. Sorry, but just because it happened on his watch does not make him to blame for everything leading up to that point in history.

It is up to the whole of Congress/houses/etc to ensure the Federal gov is taking care of business. It was easy to fingerpoint at it all being the Republicans fault since they had the majority, but that ended 1.5 years ago and things are even worse off. Bush definately has a hand in the direction but the Fed does not run as a dictatorship. Thus, I blame the Gov as a whole for the failure and continually failing the US citizens.

States themselves are responsible for their budgets and direction. I see all the time where people state that the direction for the country as a whole follows what Cali is doing. Cali is running businesses and people out of their state while being over budget. Sounds too much like the Fed Gov to me and that 'ish needs to stop. I place blame on not just the Dems but the Reps as well. They are failing and the best interests of the nation as a whole needs to be put up front instead of trying to make the other political party look bad.

[rn79870]

I agree with much of that, except, the guy in charge is the one we look to to "lead" us out of the problems we encounter. We have been deined that leader.

[audtatious]

Maybe, maybe not. When you have a partisan Congress it's hard to get any traction and set a true course. In order to get anything done you have to "give a lot" which is one of my problems with the Dems in office and their lack of "reaching across the isle" to work towards a joint solution on numerous key issues.

Realize that I do NOT see "eye to eye" with every direction of the President nor the current Rep party.

[skylndrftr]

audatatious,

while congress may be partisan at this point this was really all started by the actions of the Reupublican party over the years it was in power. Threatening to remove the ability to fillibuster a bill is just one example. That being said. I think your wrong. The president has give nvery little on anything. He didn't give on sending our troops to college...he opposed it (along with McCain) and then flipped when he signed it and gave himself and McCain credit for it. Or you could look at the FISA bill which basically gave him everythign he wanted after he threatened to veto any other version. If it was that important to nat.ional security, why not sign something just to protect us and fix it later?

btw its aisle (just givin yea crap)