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[telcoman]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/05/2 ... awyer.html

Lots of media controversy but he took on a tough job and won.

Not the first time the state of Florida screwed up.

Telcoman

[bigbadberry3]

I don't think it was that tough of a job for the defense. Almost 0 evidence and his client was still found guilty of 4 counts of lying. Just an opinion though.

[szh]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/05/2 ... awyer.html

Lots of media controversy but he took on a tough job and won.

Yes, indeed.

Not the first time the state of Florida screwed up.

I don't think they screwed up per se. From what I have read so far, the evidence simply was not there to allow a conviction.

Whether Casey is guilty or not isn't something that I have a clue about, but the jury did an excellent job at recognizing the important fact: insufficient evidence to convict.

So, emotion and the media can go off and sulk all they want ...

Z

[mattblancarte]

I agree, Z. Everyone was flipping their lids over the verdict, but there was reasonable doubt as to the first-degree murder charge. There wasn't any solid evidence to prove that Casey Anthony planned to kill her daughter.

Had they been able to identify the cause of the child's death, it would have been a much easier case for the prosecution.

[telcoman]

Not the first time the state of Florida screwed up.

I don't think they screwed up per se. From what I have read so far, the evidence simply was not there to allow a conviction.

The state of Florida did screw up by overcharging Casey

Lesser charges probabily would have resulted in a conviction?

A jury is not going to give someone a death sentence on flimsy evidence brought by the state.

Her attorney did an outstanding job in pointing out the states lack of evidence.

[R/T Hemi]

I agree with the general consensus. Some where in Florida a village is missing 12 idiots.

Now I hear she's moving out of state. I hope she chooses Texas. Let her experience a little Texas justice next time.

[IBCoupe]

I don't get it. How are so many people, witness to none of the evidence, convinced that this lady's guilty?

[bigbadberry3]

I don't get it. How are so many people, witness to none of the evidence, convinced that this lady's guilty?

Convicted on 4 counts of lying.

[szh]

I agree with the general consensus. Some where in Florida a village is missing 12 idiots.

Now I hear she's moving out of state. I hope she chooses Texas. Let her experience a little Texas justice next time.

Hmmm ... I think that most people here are saying that there was not enough evidence to convict, so I'd have to disagree with your comment.

The jury did a good job of recognizing that fact - regardless of how they "felt" about whether she was guilty or not. So, I would not blame them at all - on the contrary, kudos to them for their action.

Z

[szh]

The state of Florida did screw up by overcharging Casey

Lesser charges probabily would have resulted in a conviction?

Perhaps. But it is not clear. As I recall, she was acquitted of some lesser charges too (other than the one of lying, of course).

Given the circumstances, the choice of what charges were appropriate were probably important in the beginning to the Prosecution.

IMHO, a better choice would have been not to go to trial at all, until/unless better evidence were available - if ever.

Z

[szh]

I don't get it. How are so many people, witness to none of the evidence, convinced that this lady's guilty?

Convicted on 4 counts of lying.

Well, yes, but I think he meant of the charges of murder.

Personally, I simply do not know if Casey was guilty of the murder or not. The evidence (at least what I have read so far) seems flimsy enough that conviction was not likely with a rational jury.

Z

[bigbadberry3]

Convicted on 4 counts of lying.

Well, yes, but I think he meant of the charges of murder.

Personally, I simply do not know if Casey was guilty of the murder or not. The evidence (at least what I have read so far) seems flimsy enough that conviction was not likely with a rational jury.

Z

No I get that a lot are upset that she wasn't convicted of murder. My point is that it is much harder to convict someone of murder when they know the only way that they will get off is by lying so they choose to lie.

[telcoman]

Personally, I simply do not know if Casey was guilty of the murder or not. The evidence (at least what I have read so far) seems flimsy enough that conviction was not likely with a rational jury.
Z

I agree and yet the state ended up wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on their overreaching prosecution.

Hooray for Jose Baez in convincing the jury

[szh]

BTW, Belvin Perry, the Judge in the case, has said this - accurately, imho: "Juries aren't supposed to make decisions based on public-opinion polls."

Z

[telcoman]

BTW, Belvin Perry, the Judge in the case, has said this - accurately, imho: "Juries aren't supposed to make decisions based on public-opinion polls."
Z

They certainly didn't! Public opinion seems to be running very much against the jurys decision

They felt there was not enough evidence to give someone a possible death sentence and I agree with the jury

[szh]

BTW, Belvin Perry, the Judge in the case, has said this - accurately, imho: "Juries aren't supposed to make decisions based on public-opinion polls."
Z

They certainly didn't! Public opinion seems to be running very much against the jurys decision

They felt there was not enough evidence to give someone a possible death sentence and I agree with the jury

For a change, we are in agreement.

Z

[IBCoupe]

I don't get it. How are so many people, witness to none of the evidence, convinced that this lady's guilty?

Convicted on 4 counts of lying.

I meant regarding the murder charges.

[stebo0728]

Man, here I am finally chiming in.

So I agree, whats the deal with all the folks going bat-sh*t over this? They couldnt prove a cause of death even?!? Some will say you dont need a cause of death, but I disagree. Its hard to blame someone for a death that you dont know the way it occurred. Now.....did she act like a sane mother would act? Hell no, but she wasnt on trial for her mourning practices, and no sufficient evidence existed to prove anything more than lying to officials.

Do I believe she was guilty, or at least involved? Yes! Would I have convicted her based on the evidence brought? NO! What WOULD I have done? Well I dont know, but an interesting thought I had. If I were on a jury where I "considered" a suspect guilty but saw no sufficient evidence, could we stalemate and have a hung jury, where the trial could be rebooted, possibly giving the prosecution a second chance to get their heads our of their bums? I dont know, would that work? Or would it just kick the can down the road another few months?

Either way, innocent till proven guilty does not necessarily apply to public opinion. She will be a pariah for quite a while.

I just wish the hot heads with posters had to sit on trial for a crime they didnt commit, regardless of what the evidence looked like, and have to see all the vitriol and calls for "string 'em up" when the case cant be proven. Maybe then they'd understand.

[bigbadberry3]

I wonder how the civil court case will go...

[szh]

We seem to all be in general agreement!

Good.

Z