AMS Performance Problems

[joenismos15]

I DID SEARCH!! Get that out of the way now!

Two Part Question

Just Wanted To Know if any one has had any Trouble With AMS Performance?I Ordered and paid for one of there KA24DET For my S14 But i have the Sneaking Suspicion that they sent me an S13 Engine (The Gasket Set that was included is for the 91-94) and now i have called and Emailed left messages for Eric Gaudi (AMS Sales Manager) And No Reply. He did ask me if it was for an S13 or an S14 and i told him it was for a 1995 S14 SE.

Secondly I guess the parts that i bought for the Engine are now useless?(I.e. 95-98 Water Pump, alternator, Distributor,Starter) OR can they be used on the S13 Engine?

Any Help Would be Great thanks.

[aceof07]

iirc the head gasket from those years will work perfectly with the newer year engine as well, so it still maybe a s14 engine.

[joenismos15]

I Couldnt Confirm that Fel-pros site is not so Great Right now, Glad you could shed some light on that makes me a bit less nervous after dropping 9k. Hopefully they get back to me about it.

[aceof07]

could u tell us more about the engine?

[joenismos15]

Well This is The Engine Mods:

Done By AMS

Arias 8.8:1 pistonsArias Moly RingsARP head studsARP main studsA full Fel-Pro Complete EngineGasket set All motor assembly gaskets includedA fresh set of OEM Nissan timing componentsNew OEM Nissan oil pumpNew Main BearingsClevite Rod BearingsNew freeze plugs and galley plugs as necessaryBlock will be bored, honed, decked as necessary, hot tanked and/or blasted.Head is hot tanked, blasted, pressure checked, recieves a 3 angle valve job, is decked as necessary, and cam journals are polished.Main journals are align honed, a step which is not included in anyone elses buildAll oil galleys tapped and sealed with an NPT threaded plug to ensure it never leaks or pops out like the factory pressed in plug canRotating assembly is checked and balanced as neccessaryAll motors are honed with a torque plateALL motors use a standard size crank which is only polished to clean the surfaces, We NEVER use undersized cranks.Cams are checked and polished as neededBlock is enamled blackGirdle and oil Squirters)Ported HeadKnife Edge CrankshaftCrower V2 CamsSupertech dual Valve Springs and Titanium Retainers Supertech .5mm over intake valves and .7mm over Inconel Exhaust valvesAMS/Turbo 240 Pro Series RodsNitrided CrankshaftFully Grooved BearingsBalance Rotating Assembly11mm Head StudsO-Ring BlockCometic Head Gasket

And an Update! Eric Called me back I will be speaking to them later today!

[srblacks131]

check the casting numbers on the head and block. I believe that the S13 casting numbers are 53F. Not sure about the S14 tho

[aceof07]

nice setup i wish i had that kind of funds too bad i'm a poor college kid. keep me updated.

[joenismos15]

hehe well Funds arent a huge Problem Didnt have much time to spend money for a Few years (USMC) made my piggy bank get nice and fat.

[eazye2000]

I think everything is the same for both motors....

Except:(what I'm aware of)

The head: Cam caps on the rear of the S14 head are missing. Valve cover gasket is different.

Intake Manifold: No butterflies on upper intake runners. Maybe an extra sensor or two in this general area depending on OBDI/II.(but shouldn't matter if you just bought the long block)

Other than that, I'm dumbfounded. But they interchange EASILY by only changing the intake manifold and a sensor or two.(from what I've heard)

I have an S14 sitting in my driveway, but I've only popped the hood twice since I bought it.

And for all I know, I could be wrong. But that's what I know. And that's not much...

Hope it helps.

[joenismos15]

Alrighty Just Got off the Phone with Ivan The machine shop they use sent them an S13 Head instead of an S14 Head, Which isnt a big Deal Except my shiny Powder coated Valve Cover is now not going to Fit, The only huge difference between the S13 and S14 Head is the Bolt pattern and the two cam caps on the back so at least all my other parts will work Just fine! So Basically AMS is Fantastic and I am 100% Satisfied!!!

[aceof07]

well that great to hear. have fun with it!

[keinplan]

I bought a bunch of parts from AMS, no problems here.Rebuild my KA, didn't get AMS to do it so... don't know how good they are with rebuilding.

[nwmrkt]

OOO make a build up thread please!!!

[Charlie240sxt]

On the vary back of the valve cover the bolts that hold it on the head. if there is 3 bolts its a s14 head 2 bolts s13 head. Like the s14 valve cover will have one on the rear right rear left and center. the s13 will only have 2 on the coners.

BTW if its just the block and head it really dont matter. now if it has the s13 intake manifold youll have a few more things youll run into. if your un sure post a pic of the back side of the vavle cover and a few other shot of the motor someone will know and ill be back on.

[joenismos15]

MODS Please Delete This Thread, IT pertains no viable infromation that would be worth archiving, Thanks!

[Reno]

Well This is The Engine Mods:

Done By AMS

Arias 8.8:1 pistonsArias Moly RingsARP head studsARP main studsA full Fel-Pro Complete EngineGasket set All motor assembly gaskets includedA fresh set of OEM Nissan timing componentsNew OEM Nissan oil pumpNew Main BearingsClevite Rod BearingsNew freeze plugs and galley plugs as necessaryBlock will be bored, honed, decked as necessary, hot tanked and/or blasted.Head is hot tanked, blasted, pressure checked, recieves a 3 angle valve job, is decked as necessary, and cam journals are polished.Main journals are align honed, a step which is not included in anyone elses buildAll oil galleys tapped and sealed with an NPT threaded plug to ensure it never leaks or pops out like the factory pressed in plug canRotating assembly is checked and balanced as neccessaryAll motors are honed with a torque plateALL motors use a standard size crank which is only polished to clean the surfaces, We NEVER use undersized cranks.Cams are checked and polished as neededBlock is enamled blackGirdle and oil Squirters)Ported HeadKnife Edge CrankshaftCrower V2 CamsSupertech dual Valve Springs and Titanium Retainers Supertech .5mm over intake valves and .7mm over Inconel Exhaust valvesAMS/Turbo 240 Pro Series RodsNitrided CrankshaftFully Grooved BearingsBalance Rotating Assembly11mm Head StudsO-Ring BlockCometic Head Gasket

And an Update! Eric Called me back I will be speaking to them later today!

how much did you pay shipped?

[joenismos15]

$8389.46 Shipped to my Door

[Reno]

wow...

[DevilMB3017]

Holy crap.

What are your other plans for this? Hopefully 500+ whp

[joenismos15]

Not really looking for that Much HP Just going for about 350-400 For Track Events i do a local Har-Co Series ) and im just looking to stomp on some M3's with CAI and exhaust then be able to drive it home

[Charlie240sxt]

You really should look for 520whp at the track and still be able to drive home at low boost

With that motor i dont see a problem anyway