Amp rebuilds

[DAEDALUS]

-> The rears are covered under a recall for a fire hazard. Give your dealer a ring and mention the fronts.

And the confusion continues. The '90 is NOT covered.

Make / Models : Model/Build Years: INFINITI / Q45 1991-1992 NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 98V284000 Recall Date : NOV 05, 1998 Component: EQUIPMENT:ELECTRICAL:RADIO/TAPE DECK/CD ETC. Potential Number Of Units Affected : 28970 Summary: VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH BOSE REAR SPEAKERS THAT HAVE AN INTEGRAL AMPLIFIER. A CONDUCTIVE BRIDGE CAN FORM BETWEEN TWO LINES OF THE CIRCUIT BOARD PATTERN WHEN THERE IS ACCUMULATED ELECTROLYTE LEAKED FROMA CAPACITOR AND HIGH HUMIDITY CONDITIONS. THIS CAN CLOSE A TRANSISTOR ON THE CIRCUIT BOARD WHICH CAUSES OVERHEATING. Consequence: THIS CONDITION COULD RESULT IN SMOKE OR FLAME AND POSSIBLY THE SPEAKER CATCHING FIRE. Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE CIRCUIT BOARD WITH A NEW BOARD THAT HAS BEEN COATED. Notes: OWNER NOTIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN JANUARY 4, 1999. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT NISSAN AT 1-800-NISSAN1 (1-800-647-7261). ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

[maxnix]

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Classification: Reference: Date:EL92-003 ITB92-016 February 21, 1992RADIO IDENTIFICATION (INCLUDING 1992 MODELS) INFINITIAPPLIED VEHICLE(S): All Infiniti Models

SERVICE INFORMATION

This Bulletin contains radio identification information on all Infiniti models through the 1992 model year. Use this Bulletin to identify the component manufacturer and model number when ordering an exchange unit under the Direct Dealer Manufacturer Radio Warranty Exchange Program.

Infiniti audio components are supplied by four audio manufacturers. When ordering an exchange unit, it is important to properly identify the manufacturer and model number of the incident unit. This will ensure that the exchange unit shipped from the radio manufacturer is the same brand and model as the incident unit.

ALL RADIO CORES SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THE MANUFACTURER IMMEDIATELY AFTER REMOVAL FROM THE CUSTOMER'S VEHICLE.

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Direct Audio ComponentExchanged Program Matrix1991/92 Infiniti Q45 4 Dr. SedanI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsCM120 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-64U10RX PN-9486QA Factory All (Bose Spkr. System)CM140 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-64U11RX PN-9486QC Factory Same as aboveN/A Compact DiscAuto Changer Sony B8182-C9968RS* CDX-5N61W Dealer_ L.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28149-64U11RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28148-64U11RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ L.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-64U10RX _ Factory Lft. & R.F.Rear Spks. are thesame._ R.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-64U10RX _ Factory w/Amplifier1990 Infiniti Q45 4 Dr. SedanI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsCM929 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-60U10RX PN-9354QA Factory All (Bose Spkr. System)_ Compact DiscAuto Changer Sony B8182-C9968RS* CDX-5N61W Dealer __ L.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28149-60U10RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28148-60U10RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ L.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-60U10RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-60U10RX _ Factory w/Amplifier*Includes Auto Changer and Remote Commander, does not include Wiring Harness

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Direct Audio ComponentExchange Program Matrix1991/92 Infiniti M30 CoupeI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsCK440 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-F6611RX PP-9481IA Factory All Coupes(Bose Spkr. System)AV70B CD Player Sony B8182-C9970RX CDX-5N11W Dealer In-Dash_ CD Auto Changer Sony B8182-C9968RS* CDX-5N61W Dealer_ L.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28149-F6601RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28148-F6601RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ L.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28139-F6601RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-F6601RX _ Factory w/Amplifier1990 Infiniti M30 CoupeI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsCM537 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-F6610RX PP-9210IA Factory All (Bose Spkr. System)_ Compact DiscAuto ChangerSony B8182-C9968RS* CDX-5N61W DealerAV138 Compact DiscPlayer Sony B8182-C9960RX CDX-5N10W Dealer In Dash_ L.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28149-F6600RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.F. Spk. Assy. Bose 28148-F6600RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ L.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28139-F6600RX _ Factory w/Amplifier_ R.R. Spk. Assy. Bose 28138-F6600RX _ Factory w/Amplifier*Includes Auto Changer and Remote Commander, does not include Wiring Harness.

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Direct Audio ComponentExchange Program Matrix1001/92 Infiniti M30 ConvertibleI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsCM077 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-F6620RX PP-9211IB Factory Active Spk. SystemCK559 AM/FM ET Combo Clarion 28115-F6621RX PP-9480IA Factory ‘91.5-’92_ Amplifier Clarion 28060-F6620RX EP-7091-51 Factory Active Spk. System_ Amplifier Clarion 28060-F6621RX EP-7091-53 Factory ‘91.5-’92AV70B CD Player Sony B8182-C9970RX CDX-5N11W DealerNote: CD Auto Changer does not apply to the M30 convertible.The M30 convertible uses active speakers which can be found in the microfiche catalog1991/92 Infiniti G20 4-Door SedanI.D.CodeComponentDescription Mfr.InfinitiPart NumberMfg.Model NumberInstalledby: CommentsPK429 AM/FM ET Combo Panasonic 28115-62J15RX CQ-LN5010A Factory Active Spk. SystemAV70B CD Player Sony B8182-C9970RX CDX-5N11W Dealer_ CD Auto Changer Sony B8182-C9968RS* CDX-5N61W Dealer*Includes Auto Changer and Remote Commander, does not include Wiring Harness.Note: G20 uses active speakers, which are listed in the microfiche catalog.

Comment: The table probably has a screwy layout.

[911/Q45]

I sent all four of my 1990 units in their enclosures to Bose for $75 each and they returned them rebuilt promptly and covered the return shipping. So it was a total of $300 for all four.

[Jesda]

Im intrigued. So if the 1990 isnt covered, are they less prone to failure? If I fish around for used amps, should I keep the 1990 Q in mind?

-Jesda

[DAEDALUS]

The '90s were a different design. That said, I kind of doubt they would work right with your head unit or harness connectors.

[tangalora]

Made some phone calls today:------------------------------------------------ Front Right Speaker Assembly: P/N: 28148-60U10 superceded by P/N: 28148-60U11 Local dealership: $768.16 each Joe at Scottsdale: $573.86 each BOSE (recondition) $75.00 each------------------------------------------------ Front Left Speaker Assembly: P/N: 28149-60U10 superceded by P/N: 28149-60U11 Local dealership: $768.16 each Joe at Scottsdale: $573.86 each BOSE (recondition) $75.00 each------------------------------------------------ Rear Right Speaker Assembly: P/N: 28138-60U10 Local dealership: $722.65 each Joe at Scottsdale: $539.86 each BOSE (recondition) $75.00 each------------------------------------------------ Rear Left Speaker Assembly: P/N: 28138-60U10 Local dealership: $722.65 each Joe at Scottsdale: $539.86 each BOSE (recondition) $75.00 each-----------------------------------------------Notice three different speaker assemblies for the 1990 Q45: - Front right - Front left - Rear (right & left)-----------------------------------------------

[tangalora]

Did some web research today:- http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/DIY/bose_rr.htm- http://www.willmanselectronics.com/infiniti.htm- http://www.carstereohelp.com/repairDoIt ... epair.htm- http://www.simplyspeakers.com/2doityourself.htm- http://www.carstereohelp.com/infiniti.htm

o NSXPrime is for Hondas, but they discuss Infiniti Bose repairs & Bose failure modes.o Williams Electronics has a short Infiniti page on Bose speaker R&R&R (remove & repair & replace).o So does the Factory Car Stereo Repair site.o Simply speakers has do-it-yourself speaker-repair kits for the common problems (e.g., for 26.95 they sell the foam-repair kit shown in the picture below for Infiniti Bose 6x9 inch speakers).

Note that both the NSXprime & BoseRepair.com sites also discuss the $75 Bose factory refurbish.

For example, NSXPrime states:(begin quote)Failure:All Bose amps will eventually fail due to inability to dissipate heat. The louder you listen to the stereo the faster they will fail, it is a function of a square (twice as loud = 4x rate of failure).

Infiniti has a long standing replacement policy on their Bose amps, because they are mounted on top of the gasoline tank. They fry or get too hot and they will replace them for you. No other car maker will do this outside of the warranty.

Option I – Third Party ReplacementFor about $250 you can get replacement amps (not made by Bose) from Amp Options (e-mail at: [email protected] or call between 8:00 AM to 9:00 PM EST at 770.638.0359) Has better warranty than Bose, might be better made.

Option II – Have Bose Fix them for you!Pay Bose. They have tuned each amp to fit the car and its enclosure. For the original stock sound it is better to have the amps rebuilt than to replace them with different part numbers, but the fix may not last very long. Send the entire enclosure (along with a $75 money order) back to them to get them rebuilt. BOSE 800.231.2673.

Bose Corporation125 Fisher StreetAttn: John Villa - OEM QAWestboro, MA 01581

Success is mixed from the people who use the repair option. Many have had the amp fail within months of the repair operation. The only components replaced are those that have currently failed. Components that have not yet failed (or about to fail) are not replaced, possibly sending you back a tired amp.

Option III – Repair them yourselfThose style of amps are used in just about every type of Bose install for the past 15 or years. So any used car can be robbed of parts.(end quote)

[natsoundup]

I was able to get the rebuilds done for free on my 90.

They essentially sent back new speakers and amps enclosed in my old housing.

I managed to get through to a particular person and started talking about my brand loyalty to Bose. I have one of their home systems and another bedroom radio..

That said...it didn't seem that was the deciding factor. All he said on the phone was I will see what I can do. Then he gave me a specific return number.... I sent all the old ones back and kept my fingers crossed.

They came back less than two weeks later, postage paid and no charge.

I think it was just a certain amount of luck and Bose goodwill.