Always spinning out!! Why?

[dennisplus]

Ok. I'm asking for advice on a little drifting. I drive a 1992 240sx Coupe on Tein coil overs, rear camber kit, toe control, and stock wheels. Ok here's the scenario: I'm going on a straight away towards a left hand turn(90 degree). I'm in about 3rd gear when I shift down to 2nd, brake, go right then left, pull the e-brake as I turn left, pop the clutch and gas it. My entry is beautiful! Totally sideways and at a good speed but right before I exit I spin out. All 180 degrees around! WTF!! Well I was told it might be beacause I floor the gas but I've done it with more gas controll but it still does it. I don't know if I need to adjust my steering due to the fact that my car goes left way easier than right. Please help! I was doing these turns way better when I first tried them but now spin out on every turn! Any opinions?

[Chukidori]

You have to rape the wheel, No joke.

Focus more on steering. most spin outs are from poor steering, if you are quick with the wheel you can pretty much make up for discrepencies with throttle.

You arent talking about the car snapping back are you?

[Chukidori]

Try ignoring the e-brake also...Just feint and clutch kick, I dont recommend learning with e-brake contrary to popular belief because you do get quite a high entry angle..which could cause problems like you are having if you cant correct it. If you clutch kick only, you will find the *** end steps out more progressivly..WHILE you have both hands on the wheel..easier.

[Biggamehit]

sometimes you could be giving the car to many inputs. if you have pulled the e-brake and successfully got the rear out and broke traction, throttle is all you need along with momentum to carry you through.

also as stated above. make sure you are acting accordingly with your steering inputs... becuase all of you footwork could be correct and if your steering is delayed and or to much, you will spin.

[shmex]

Well I know why I spun out I'd get good angle cept I clutch kick....I have no ps so as stated before....I was trying to correct but its reeeeal hard with out ps....so one lil mistake and I d spin out.....sounds like your steering while exiting is a lil floppy. Just practice correcting wponce you exit.....too much throttle and steering angle together will cause you to spin as we'll....goodluck and hit that track up!!!!

[Biggamehit]

i had no ps for 5 years in my 240... i had no issues controlling it.. i actually had a more direct feel but everyones style is different.

however drifting with ps in my skyline now.... really doesnt feel that different.

[shmex]

I'm skinny as hell and got no upper body strenghth though. I was keep my angle up....and going through the ring,,,just really really hard. I'm assuming with ps....it'll be somewhat easier......

[Joe]

Ok. I'm asking for advice on a little drifting. I drive a 1992 240sx Coupe on Tein coil overs, rear camber kit, toe control, and stock wheels. Ok here's the scenario: I'm going on a straight away towards a left hand turn(90 degree). I'm in about 3rd gear when I shift down to 2nd, brake, go right then left, pull the e-brake as I turn left, pop the clutch and gas it. My entry is beautiful! Totally sideways and at a good speed but right before I exit I spin out. All 180 degrees around! WTF!! Well I was told it might be beacause I floor the gas but I've done it with more gas controll but it still does it. I don't know if I need to adjust my steering due to the fact that my car goes left way easier than right. Please help! I was doing these turns way better when I first tried them but now spin out on every turn! Any opinions?

damn dude youre doing like 5 things at once just to initiate, thats your first problem. pick 1 method of initiation for that specific track/corner and use it.

you are probably using too much throttle, or too much too quickly. if you gas it while the rear end is swinging out you WILL spin.

and i disagree with "more" steering input to a point. in drifting you will steer with the throttle. i know, it doesnt make sense, but for the most part your arms and hands should only make small corrections once sideways to maintain the slide and redirect it to where it needs to do.

i TRY to never make more than a 1/4 turn on the steering wheel once i set my angle after initiation. you drive with your feet. every "newer" person ive ever tried to give advice to (after a ridealong) uses too much hand input.

[moulton712]

are you using a stock steering wheel?

the reason i ask is that alot of times no one cleans the hub if they have a stock steering wheel. after 15years of dirt build up it makes the steering wheel harder to spin.

how is you entry speed? when i raised mine i stopped spinning out as much as i used too

[davisk6]

damn dude you're doing like 5 things at once just to initiate, thats your first problem. pick 1 method of initiation for that specific track/corner and use it.

I agree here. Pick one method of initiation. I've had the same problem for a while now. Trying to do too much. Once I took a step back and focused on one thing at a time, I began to spin out less. From your post it seems like you are trying to feint, clutch kick and e-brake at the same time. You are upsetting the car too much and physics is taking over.

I suggest start by picking one mode and initiating without trying to power out of the drift and just steer to a stop. Take the foot work out of the equation. Once you get comfortable with the dynamics of your car, start working the gas back to extend your drifts. This worked good for me.

[dwclur]

counter steer faster

[rsmithdrift]

Sounds like you need less angle. You're throwing it in too hard and you don't have the steering to correct more if you need it since your going to lock, so you can't exit the drift because your already at lock and your momentum is carrying you farther and once your beyond your c/s angle the front tires start pulling you in harder and make you spin faster. Causing you to go all the way around 180.

If you use less drift angle so your not quite hitting lock when you balance the drift, you will be able to countersteer more at corner exit and EASE OFF the gas simultaneously to bring the car back straight.

Drifting is all about momentum and long story short you're giving yourself WAY too much momentum if your spinning out.

Also you may want to check to see if your coilovers are all adjusted evenly. Left/right should be adjusted the same, otherwise the car will be very hard to control and will turn one way easier than the other.