Altima 3.5 liter

[maxnix]

Manix.. i have a "4 banger" by choice, i like the fuel economy and with my issues with "the man" i like it because it provides all the looks without all the kick of a bigger engine. Lets leave the wanna-be insults aside.

Personal taste is what comes in here... sure Godiva chocolate is expensive and quality made... i still prefer a hershey bar.

Exactly the point I made. The available four cylinder is its only attraction, its derivative styling not being so charming. The German bunker view from the inside is not reassuring in traffic. I think the Altima sedan is the far superior design.

I personally support my local Hershey's consumers and McDonald's fans so more of the real stuff is left for me.

Back to Q45 interiors, they are far superior to the failing LCD displays and rear view mirrors in the LS interiors. The seats are comfortable and leave one refreshed after 14 hrs. of high speed touring. The LS seats with their plain leather flat seat pans not only are not particularly comfortable, but they sag after a while which is the only thing that mitigates my butt sliding forward away from the back. A totally inferior item when compared to the G50 or FGY33.
Modified by maxnix at 2:32 PM 11/14/2008

[BadQ45t]

I rather like the interior on the 97' I own, the leather is now very soft and broken in without cracks. The ride is still whisper quiet and and solid. I have driven my brothers 96' LS400 and I don't see any big difference.

Funny Jesda brings up one of the worst selling cars in VW's history as a successs story, actually probably one of the worst selling cars in the history of the autotive industry. That is a poster child for an abortion of a ride.

With regards to the Altima I had one as a rental car and compared to ANY GM or Ford product priced in the same boat is light-years better. I also got a chance last year to drive a 07' CTX or something Caddy, my 97' Q45 was superior in every way...Caddy sucks

[krazyfil]

I'm glad you are in Cali driving reckless like that and not around my love ones...

im not.. im actually from modesto and if i see that stupid crap happening on the 99 when my daughter is in the car im gonna kill someone.. and now i see why u guys bash on me so much about me asking about hids and wheels and stuff cuz u assume that im one of these freeway jerk off racers... i used to have an amatuer racing license back when i was in the military in tennessee.. but i left my racing on the track... but whatever im not gonna get into it lol

and the new coupe altima is SEXY

[Jesda]

I rather like the interior on the 97' I own, the leather is now very soft and broken in without cracks. The ride is still whisper quiet and and solid. I have driven my brothers 96' LS400 and I don't see any big difference.

Funny Jesda brings up one of the worst selling cars in VW's history as a successs story, actually probably one of the worst selling cars in the history of the autotive industry. That is a poster child for an abortion of a ride.

With regards to the Altima I had one as a rental car and compared to ANY GM or Ford product priced in the same boat is light-years better. I also got a chance last year to drive a 07' CTX or something Caddy, my 97' Q45 was superior in every way...Caddy sucks

Your poop must taste like licorice.

The VW Phaeton, is, by far, one of the nicest luxury cars built in the last decade (despite LOTS of annoying electrical issues, design flaws, etc). And its one of the biggest marketing failures ever. No one wanted to buy a rebadged downmarket Bentley Continental from the same dealer that services Jettas. A lot of Phaetons that did finally sell needed a massive discount. The next generation of the car, instead of sharing a platform with Bentley, will just be a stretched FWD Passat.

I did NOT call it a success story. It WAS a massive sales failure and a huge marketing blunder. I said it had a gorgeous interior. Reading comprehension was something we all learned in primary school.
Modified by Jesda at 7:59 PM 11/14/2008

[Jesda]

With regards to the Altima I had one as a rental car and compared to ANY GM or Ford product priced in the same boat is light-years better. I also got a chance last year to drive a 07' CTX or something Caddy, my 97' Q45 was superior in every way...Caddy sucks

Are you comparing the Altima to the CTS? Who was comparing the Altima to anything from GM? You are still bitter about the last thread where you tried to say I wrong for disliking modern-era Nissans. (You know, the thread where other NICO members who weren't Ghosn knob-slobbers backed me up).

You and I share an affinity for 1980s and 1990s Nissans. Unfortunately, you're too much of a badge-worshipping fool to know of any difference between the cars we admired and today's disposable French Nissans.
Modified by Jesda at 7:59 PM 11/14/2008

[Infinitiguy19]

Your poop must taste like licorice.

[pntofnoreturn]

I used to have a 98 VW Passat. It was ugly but I bought it for cheap and ran good but damnnnn once that thing hit 100,000 miles it was in the shop every other week (no joke) and the check engine light would always be on even when nothing was wrong. I knew something was seriously wrong when the check engine light didnt go on lol...I sold it as soon as I could and bought the altima 3.5 :]

[maxnix]

My friend's 1997 Passat required 3 VR6 engines by 70K miles.

[tmak26b]

Funny how people complained about other car's reliability when they have an early Q.........

[Infinitiguy19]

well wouldn't the people who have an early Q45 have the right to complain, I mean there lasted that long.

Look at Q45techs car.

[BadQ45t]

I'm not bitter, just saying your are completely biased against Nissan's. I think my reading comp is fine, I have a Master's and Ph.D. so I think that I might have jumped through a few more hoops than most posters...I continue my point that the Phaeton was an abortion, totally over-priced and they couldn't sell them...I was not comparing it to the Altima, but to your use of it as a poster child as a great interior and car while the Altima and Maxima are described as crap.

Since you seem hung up on Caddy's as great cars I was saying that I was completely unimpressed with anything they make. Would like to try one of their new 550hp V models, but still think reliabilty is questionable and fit and finish on the one I drove didn't hold a candle to the 97' Q that you seem also to hold out as "not a 1st gen" Q, which was/is a great car, but had way more quality issues than the 2nd gen.

I'm sure we'd have a great debate over a beer sometime/someplace, but I continue to be amazed at your posts in a forum for a car brand you seem to hate. I guess I feel the same way about any crap GM builds, and last time I checked Nissan's doing okay today while GM is about to go under unless my considerable tax dollars go into saving them (my opinion is they should be allowed to go under where they belong).

Nothing personal, but open your mind just a little and consider that the cheaper Nissans' serve an important purpose, to get people from point A to Point B in a reliable fashion, and they do that well.

[maxnix]

Yeah, Cadillac quality kind of went away after the fifties, some would say early fifties or late forties.

I remember following a 49 Cadillac some years ago that had excellently uniform and small panel gaps equal to anything the Japanese build now.
Modified by maxnix at 8:15 AM 11/17/2008

[NightRiderQ45]

Great response BadQ45t. I have a 98 model and I complete agree with what you said. I also love the Maximas and I35's too. I was able to get my sister to purchase the I35.

[Jesda]

Nothing personal, but open your mind just a little and consider that the cheaper Nissans' serve an important purpose, to get people from point A to Point B in a reliable fashion, and they do that well.

You see, I -do- have an open mind, but it isn't gaping. My family started out with Nissans and Datsuns including a Sentra, B210, and two pickups. I stuck with the brand and came back for a used Q45, G20, 240SX convertible, and Maxima.

I've put more miles on Nissan products than anything else, and most were positive experiences. A couple bad ones stick out (Sentra, G20). Believe me, I've been around the block and had a taste of recent cars from Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Korea, and the US. Cars are where, for better or worse, I waste the disposable part of my income.

I like what the Nissan brand was, not what the brand is. The appeal of Nissan has always been its combination of style and performance while retaining Japanese quality. That hasn't been the same since quality took a severe nosedive in recent years. The cheaper Nissans DO serve a purpose -- making French shareholders happy while suckering Americans into flashy but poorly-built contraptions. You falsely presume that today's Nissans are as well built and reliable as before -- they typically are not. And if I'm going to sacrifice some quality, I'm going to go with a brand I strongly prefer for design and driving characteristics: Mazda.

The appeal of Cadillac is how it swings wildly from high quality to piss poor disposable, and its deep integration in American culture as an icon and as a point of shame. There's a story behind every generation. I love nearly all of the cars.

As for GM itself, I'd be sad to see my favorite trucks, performance cars, and luxury cars lose their parent company. I won't miss the corporation's terminal arrogance or the unions' sense of entitlement... or ads with Tiger Woods. Rick Wagoner and Ron Gettelfinger are burdens on the US economy.

As a Libertarian, I oppose bailouts, tariffs, quotas, and CAFE.

I generally mark 2002 as my cutoff point for likable Nissans, with the exception of the Titan (2005 and later).

[BadQ45t]

Well I have been out of town and too busy to post lately...Jesda, we'll agree to disagree. My 05' X-Terra compared to the competitors was far away the best choice out there. While the CJ was not available at the time, compared to the GM abortion H3 Hummer hands down the best choice.

GM is on its ***, should be interesting to see what happens but 95% of what they make sucks. I still think that Altima and Maxima FOR WHAT THEY ARE make darn good choices for people and are highly competitives choices.