Alright - need some advice on supporting mods for the set up i am choosing

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Well. most of you know my troubles - and instead of scrapping the car, I'm upgrading. It might take me awhile to pay for all the parts, but I'll have a good reliable set of wheels soon, and it'll give me time to gather parts as I need them since my car is being stored indoors at my mechanics shop as long as i need it to be .

So here's what I'm deciding on.

Getting a new manifold from IAP

Getting a T3/T04E .50 trim turbo with a .63 A/R

Now - I currently just have 370cc injectors, and it's tuned with a SAFC. I also have completely stock internals and no boost controller or any guages.

What am I looking at as far as supporting mods? will i need to upgrade my injectors, internals, get a ECU tune, get a boost controller/guages, or will I be ok just leaving it as is until I can upgrade it, but install it and drive it for the time being.

I'm assuming Fiznat will be able to give me the best info, as I believe this'll be the same turbo he's using, but if anyone has any info for me - please post it up.

Thanks in advance!


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I assume youre getting the IAP donwpipe with the manifold. Youre gonna need an external wastegate. IAP uses Tial and a few guys are trying the new JGS one. Gauges are the window to your motor's soul so I'd say a boost gauge is a must. A boost controller can be used to up the boost when youre ready, so you can wait on that for a while.

You can also reuse your 370cc injectors with the SAFC. You should be around 240whp with that setup. Past there, you'll need bigger injectors, a better MAF (Z32), and good timing control. At that point, I think you should consider an Enthalpy or JWT retuned ECU. The SAFC can handle injectors up to 550cc

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It matters more how much boost you plan to run than what parts you decided to go with. That T3/T04E is good for a pretty wide range of boost levels, and the supporting mods vary quite a bit between a 10psi setup and a 20 psi setup.

Which are you looking at, and we can help you out a little better?

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IWannaS15 wrote:I assume youre getting the IAP donwpipe with the manifold. Youre gonna need an external wastegate. IAP uses Tial and a few guys are trying the new JGS one. Gauges are the window to your motor's soul so I'd say a boost gauge is a must. A boost controller can be used to up the boost when youre ready, so you can wait on that for a while.

You can also reuse your 370cc injectors with the SAFC. You should be around 240whp with that setup. Past there, you'll need bigger injectors, a better MAF (Z32), and good timing control. At that point, I think you should consider an Enthalpy or JWT retuned ECU. The SAFC can handle injectors up to 550cc
I'll be getting anything I need with it - so If I need that downpipe - yes I'll add it to the list, and the wastegate as well (I didn't neccessarily know about that part, but now i do ) As for the guages - I'll pick up a good set of boost, a/r, and temp guages (I had defi style ones, but they mysteriously disappeared one night ).

As for the boost controller - what will set my psi then? I know mine is set at 7psi (stock boost for the SR turbo), but idk what limit's it.

As for those other upgrades - i'll probably just wait on them, and get it retuned with my injectors and SAFC...as I want it up and running asap - and then in a few months when it's going away to storage for the harsh winter, I'll do the MAF, ECU, Injectors and all that other fun stuff.

Thanks for the help

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fiznat wrote:It matters more how much boost you plan to run than what parts you decided to go with. That T3/T04E is good for a pretty wide range of boost levels, and the supporting mods vary quite a bit between a 10psi setup and a 20 psi setup.

Which are you looking at, and we can help you out a little better?
My goals are to get my car pretty much to yours haha, I envy it. But for now I just want a basic set up - so probably a 10psi set up so I can use my supporting mods that I have now - but in a few months I'll be looking to slam it into overdrive and probably rebuild my motor and all that fun stuff and get around 20psi's

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Which stage kit are you going with?

The spring in your wastegate will determine the boost. I'd bet IAP kit comes with 7psi spring. You can never boost less than the rating of the spring. The boost controller just tricks the wastegate into allowing boost more by blocking the signal to the WG until the controller decides its time.

Your stock MAF and those 370cc injectors are good until 240-250whp. Thats about 7psi on a T3/T4 50trim.

To run 10psi, you still have to upgrade injectors and MAF, buy a boost controller, and start worrying about timing. It starts to add up.

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IWannaS15 wrote:Which stage kit are you going with?

The spring in your wastegate will determine the boost. I'd bet IAP kit comes with 7psi spring. You can never boost less than the rating of the spring. The boost controller just tricks the wastegate into allowing boost more by blocking the signal to the WG until the controller decides its time.

Your stock MAF and those 370cc injectors are good until 240-250whp. Thats about 7psi on a T3/T4 50trim.

To run 10psi, you still have to upgrade injectors and MAF, buy a boost controller, and start worrying about timing. It starts to add up.
I'm not going with really any certain stage as of yet. I just know that I want the T3/T04E turbo and their header. I will also most likely get their DP and waste gate - and then of course all the flanges/fittings/lines that I'll need.

If I can keep my certain set up with setting it at 7psi - that's what i'll most likely go with until winter storage. I'll then do the whole kit and kaboodle as far as engine internals, ECU tunes, injectors, Z32 MAF, boost controllers - etc etc etc.

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I think thats a good plan, and it keeps you from spending so much at once.

About the WG, the boost controller only allows you to increase boost over the setting of the wastegate spring (I forgot to say that)

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IWannaS15 wrote:I think thats a good plan, and it keeps you from spending so much at once.

About the WG, the boost controller only allows you to increase boost over the setting of the wastegate spring (I forgot to say that)
thanks for your help, and yeah it'll be good for me. As for the WG - thanks for explaining


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