All RB swap info

[CurlyStooge]

For those that want info regarding the swap. Please email me and I'll give you my phone number, I'll let you know what is needed after you tell me which engine you'd like and what car it's going in. Regarding sources, I have 2 direct sources from Japland for the engine swaps for those that would like a cheap deal (dont ask for a quote if you arent serious, please dont waste my time unless your actually serious and not just wondering), I also HIGHLY recommend Daunttless to do the swap or help with it. Why am I leaking out info that helps keep other places in business, like Unstable-Hybrids (by making people think the swap is for seasoned veterans so they dont do it themselves) and possibly hurt business at the shop I work for? Because I think it's total bs that people hide this info when it would help the community, if you don't want to bring it to us to get it done, thats fine, but that doesn't mean I'm going to tell you to **** off after you ask me for info. I came to this conclusion after some prick at unstable-hybrids wouldn't give me the info I wanted (I have a customer that wants the rb26 swap into his rb25) even if I sourced the engine from them and got the info AFTER doing so. Why? Because he wanted to do the swap and didn't want to help someone else. FORGET PRICKS LIKE THAT! Because of his selfishness, not only did he not get to do the car, I won't be sourcing the engine from him when the customer decides what he wants. Contact me if you want the info, no looky loos who are just curious, only contact me if your willign to speak with me over the phone about it and are serious, I dont have time for telling 50k people who are just "wondering". There will be a site made in the future for the swaps in detail, for those just wondering how hard it is and if theyd like to consider it later. I beleive this will help the 240 community grow and hope I'm correct, after all, look what it did to the Honda hybrid community.Also, for those that are going to say "its already public and been done enough", if so, people wouldnt ask all the time what's needed, people hint to whats needed but dont state it, and yes you can find hte ifno, but it takes alot of hunting and picking, and discourages people from wanting to do it.

Another update to this, check out http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/ they'll be offering kits to do these (look, Im referring people to my competition) swaps and seem to be going out of their way to make it public too, good ethics in my book. Come on people, follow these guys, lets try and get the 240 into the mainstream where it belongs.

[Siddhartha]

You truly are a cool person. Anyone that would do something that could make sooooo much money solely for the sake of the community is awesome. I admire your character . . . .

[CurlyStooge]

You truly are a cool person. Anyone that would do something that could make sooooo much money solely for the sake of the community is awesome. I admire your character . . . .

thank you.

[meggala]

you are on the right track I had similar problems when Ifirst got my skyline 18 months ago here in australia so I started a little site with info now with 500k hits a month its amazing.I believe if you share the info it grows the market .cause people are informed we still have a number of people ripping guys off over here for tunes etc and now the info is getting out the businesses are still doing ok cause the guys are informed an know what to do and when. andwhat it will cost.keep up the good workmeggala

[CurlyStooge]

rb30det! *drools and creams pants* dizam *gets up to get towel* Do you know where I could get RB30 engine blocks at for that swap? I want to list a supplier that can get them (with a nice price) on the site im working on.

[meggala]

contact me via email and I tell you yes I can get them but shipping from here is not cheap they sit high a bit to high in the silvia .mail me I'll fill you inyes I know a bit about rb's etcmeggala

I might no reply till tomorrow its late here

[CurlyStooge]

check ur mail

[WDRacing]

Unstable Hybrids went to s*** when Joel left. I guess his partner is a real ***.

Stephen, if you get the RB30's to the states count me in NOW. I want one. I've been trying to get one to Japan for 3 years. There just to damn expensive to get here.

WD

[CurlyStooge]

Unstable Hybrids went to s*** when Joel left. I guess his partner is a real ***.

Stephen, if you get the RB30's to the states count me in NOW. I want one. I've been trying to get one to Japan for 3 years. There just to damn expensive to get here.

WD

will do cheif

[bob marley]

Hey, RB30? I always thought it was a $10k kit for the rb26? Anyways, where are you all located in orlando? I've been meaning to check it out. That's larry's shop right?

By the way, I noticed on your site that you have a veilside ti exhaust for the supra priced at $890. If I wanted one, when can I expect it? I'm thinking about getting one either end of this year or beginning of next.

Thanks, Johann

*edit* Can you give me any info on this swap, like a price to have it done? please e-mail [email protected], thanks again.

[CurlyStooge]

Hey, RB30? I always thought it was a $10k kit for the rb26? Anyways, where are you all located in orlando? I've been meaning to check it out. That's larry's shop right?

By the way, I noticed on your site that you have a veilside ti exhaust for the supra priced at $890. If I wanted one, when can I expect it? I'm thinking about getting one either end of this year or beginning of next.

Thanks, Johann

*edit* Can you give me any info on this swap, like a price to have it done? please e-mail [email protected], thanks again.

im not sure on the price to have an RB30 swap done since im still waiting for a quote from another NICO member on what the price for them is, and I dont know anything about the RB30, so i couldnt give an accurate estimate since i dont know what is involved in the swap. As far as the Ti exhaust, we don't have them in stock, but our supplier that we get our Veilside items from does have them in stock.

[bob marley]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant to ask how much would it cost to install the rb26 into a 240? I have no plans for the RB30... yet:) ........

Thanks, Johann

[CurlyStooge]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant to ask how much would it cost to install the rb26 into a 240? I have no plans for the RB30... yet:) ........

Thanks, Johann

I honestly would highly suggest going iwth the RB25, it will cost you half as much, if you want a direct quote, go ahead and email me, that way ill have that as a reminder to check on tuesday (leaving tommorrow morning and wont be back til monday night, so thats when ill have to do it).

[WDRacing]

Just a few things I know about the swap to the RB30, You typically use the head from a RB25DET as well as the trans. To my understanding the RB25DET head flows better and there are more after market parts that will fit, cams and valvetrain. Other then that it should be a s straight forward as the RB25 swap.

It like the 240 has a low redline. But is still quite capable of 700hp with a ton of lowend toque.

I'll do some hunting around. I know a few aussies from the SDU site.

WD

[CurlyStooge]

Just a few things I know about the swap to the RB30, You typically use the head from a RB25DET as well as the trans. To my understanding the RB25DET head flows better and there are more after market parts that will fit, cams and valvetrain. Other then that it should be a s straight forward as the RB25 swap.

It like the 240 has a low redline. But is still quite capable of 700hp with a ton of lowend toque.

I'll do some hunting around. I know a few aussies from the SDU site.

WD

thanks, im pretty sure someone told me the RB30 block was a little taller then the others.

[msg]

dude, where have you been all my life? i've been searching n searching, and i guess this is becoming very popular. . .all you biters!!! jk. newayz i believe information should be free, well most of it. that's what the internet is for anyways. cmon lets progress. i mean, this is the whole reason why our economy has gone to sh*znets. people get a lil too greedy.

[Flamereka]

Hey whats your E-mail? I am wanting to do the RB20det swap in my 1996 240sx. full clip is about $1500 so I like the price and the avaliability of engine. Hp results are what I want

[dohctor_yaj]

he|| yeah dude....i totally agree with you making the 240sx community as big as the Hunda 15 sec community cars...

i think it would be just Fu@kin awsome because so many more people will want to get things rolling...what some companies dont get is that most people would always try to do it themselves for the love of their car and not have someone else do it for them even if there is a shop in the same town that does swaps for a living...

and then there are people who will only rely on shops to do it even if they have the whole complete kit of everything needed in front of them...i really dont think these shops should worry about loosing customers because they will always get the customers that wanted them to do it in the first place....

i think this info would be awsome...i think we should have a sticky that will give out all the info about the rb engines...

check your email

[CoryMac]

Is there an email address I can reach you at? I'm in Tampa and am hoping to do this swap within the next 8 months or so, depending on whether or not I move to Gainesville in the fall.

[ItzGenX]

Well, I learned a lot about RB engines and the swap in general the past couple days from a guy on another forum. I stumbled upon the forum because he was calling out unstable about their pricing and lies on their FAQs(unstable corrected most or defended as opinion). Anyway, it was on 240sxforums.com. He got bashed to hell because the forum over there loves unstable. Me on the other hand was cheering all the way for him. He knows a lot and also runs his own RB swap business. So after the board bashed him so much, he was still willing to answer my many questions involving the swap, and I tell you, its really not all what unstable cuts it out to be. Unstable will tell you that certain things are NECESSARY for the swap to be complete which aren't. This scares many people away let alone even research about it anymore. Then unstable says you need to have custom mounts and everything when you don't. This is why they covered up their engine mounts with rags at the car show. Anyway, time to shine some light on the fellow RB lovers.

The RB20/25 will typically bolt right up using the skyline crossmember. You do however got to swap the engine in from the BOTTOM. The transmission mount will bolt right in also. Wiring is just as typical as an SR swap depending on what model car and engine you have. Someone needs to make a wiring diagram site for the RBs. Anyway, on with the show, he said he used the skyline LSD rear end and a custom driveshaft that he pointed out wasn't necessary. He made a custom driveshaft because there was about 1/4-1/2" play in it. The A/C lines and powersteering bracket + lines will need to be fabricated. That's about it for the RB swap. The RB26 however will be the same except the turbos will need to be relocated with custom manifolds OR change out to a single turbo setup. Everything else is much the same except for the AWD. The suspension on the skyline is almost identicle with that of a 240sx minus the swaybars. If you were experimental enough, you might have an awd 240 screaming down the streets if this were 100% correct. He will soon try to experiment with skyline suspension on his 240sx to see if they all really work. If they do, awd is a reality to the 240sx. Oh by the way, his website with contacts ect are here: http://240skyline.nissanpower.com/

[Daunttless]

Heh, I talked to that guy, he started the conversation by *****ing me out about lying. Then, when he actually stopped yelling at me for a bit and started talking, we got along pretty well. : )

[ItzGenX]

He was full of good information to the point that I ran out of questions! Nice guy though.

[dohctor_yaj]

isn't that guy the guy that goes around here by the name of NightXCZ77? cus i sware he has that same web site

anyways, hey Night, I must appologize but i've already bought my rb20det last fall before buying it from you...now, i was wondering if i can buy information if needed from you this coming summer when i'm gonna do the swap...?

[bruinbear714]

Yup, those unstable-hybrid guys are pricks. They won't give out ANY info, or sell ANYTHING pertaining to the swap.

I've talked to one of the McKinney dude in a San Diego Nissan meet a few months back (the guy with the rb25 in his s13) and he said they were working on a swap kit for 240s. I forgot his name, but he was middle aged, chubby, pretty cool fella.

I was told the kit included motor mounts, a transmission mount, and the driveshaft for about $1500. Then I took a look at his setup and it looked like the engine was sitting about 10cm forward of the stock mounts. The spacing from the radiator to the front of the engine was about 2.5", barely enough for the intercooler piping to swing across. All in all, it was a nice and tight fit. I didn't get to see the car in action, but it was a sweet job done by Mckinney.

[BlockHead]

Daunttless he didnt mean any of that. He just misspelled it. He ment to say,"Yup, those unstable-hybrid guys are RICKS", another way of saying great guys.:bsflag Bruinbear714, dude read before you post, cuz some day you are going to get your *** handed to you.:nopity

[Siddhartha]

lol, ::waits for Bruinbear's foot to appear in his mouth::

better start backpedalling

[Daunttless]

I'm confused, and that doesn't happen often. What the hell are you guys talking about? : ) I was talking about Night, he started our recent meeting with a lot of anger. : ) Why would I care that someone was saying bad stuff about Unstable? : ) Did he edit and I missed something or am I just missing the whole point?

[bruinbear714]

I emailed them several times back in the summer asking if they could share any info on an rb20 swap. No replies. Then I asked them if they would sell me some mounts for the RB20 swap. STILL no replies. Then I ask how much would it be to drop my car off for the swap and pick it up later. Then they quoted me like $4k or so.

I'm sure they're busy doing their stuff or whatnot, but comon - this swap doesn't require groundbreaking research. It may be difficult, but with right resources, its easier. If I had access to an autoshop, a machine shop, and some time, I'd be working on this myself, but being a mechanic isn't my job.

Blockhead - what the hell are you talking about? Looks like YOU'RE the one who needs to go back and READ what this message was originally about. And stop kissing ***. Daunttless's *** is already home to 29834739824 other people's saliva.

[ItzGenX]

LOL! OMFG hahaha. Well anyway, to the post, I have tried contacting unstable before also. I asked about "parts" pricing to do it myself. No replies WTF?! Anyway, I tried revising the emails and asked for parts pricing and such if they did the work--VOILA!--instant reply to the email with a pricing. Seemed kinda fishy so I called and asked about the price of stuff for me to do it myself. They kept trying to make the situation harder then it seemed by saying stuff like "you dont want to do that, it wont work that way etc etc" and kept insisting for them to do it. No price quotes until I finally fake agreed and said I'd do it with them--finally spits out numbers. In short, they are very twisted and selfish in their business practices and that's why I don't like them. Stick my foot in my own mouth if I will, better then giving them money when I can do it myself.

Oh, and Dauntt, I have no clue what those two were chattering about either.

[WDRacing]

Unstable can EAD, it appears that we all have emailed them about a few things, not to be replyed to. When the management split, the brains and customer support 1/2, left the company. Before the split I thought they were good guys. Now I actually turn people away from them If I can.

The RB swap is easy, we just lack companys that are importing the engines and parts.

That would be a hint DauntTless...

WD