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eZg001
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Jocko3-

excellent list of mods! I am going to wait a little while to make sure my engine is not burning oil before I do too much, but when I do my list will be very, very similar to yours.

I'm curious about your reasons for switching to wider rubber on stock rims. Is this more of an asthetic call or are you trying to increase the amount of rubber contacting with the pavement for better traction?

AT 15K miles my front tires are already making excessive noise during braking. I figured Infiniti would have had this taken care of by now. I got rid of my 03 350z because of this same issue after only six months from purchase because the morons at the dealership insisted on turning my rotors instead of getting replacement front tires.


nbgiant25
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Jacko3 wrote:I wish I had the time to do the installation myself. There is something called division of labor, which is a very american ideal. Sometimes, we have to pay others to get what we want, while we spend an equivalent amount if time pursuing the making of more money. We all cannot sit under the hood for hours. But I do appreciate those who do.
actually, the division of labor was an idea created by emile durkheim, a french sociologist, in the late 1800s... just thought i'd throw that in there...

i had to make this my first post, lol....


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nbgiant25 wrote:
actually, the division of labor was an idea created by emile durkheim, a french sociologist, in the late 1800s... just thought i'd throw that in there...

i had to make this my first post, lol....
Welcome to NICO!!

And... it's kinda scary how you would know that??!!

LOL

nbgiant25
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G_whizz wrote:
Welcome to NICO!!

And... it's kinda scary how you would know that??!!

LOL
thanks for the welcome...

sociology is my speciality, as it were, so that was a pretty easy one...

i hope to eventually contribute more than just abstract academic ideals, but for now, that's all i got.... im (hopefully) picking up my 03 6mt coupe on monday...

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I thought the division of labor was Adam Smith??

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Joe603:

You are totally correct! Division of labor was first crafted as an economic ideal under market ethics by Adam Smith in 1776 in his book, "the wealth of nations". While Adam Smith was a Scottish man with linkages to England, his ideas were well accepted in America before it even took hold in Europe. His idea of division of labor later gave rise to the law of absolute advantge, which is considered one of the primary trade theories out there. Adam Smith's idea of division of Labor and John Locke's view of the role of govt, all help shape the declaration of independence in America. Adam Smith was never recognized for his work until the 19th century when the world finally realized that work had to be discretely assigned to each individual for greater productivity gains. Henry Ford and the manufacture of the Model T, espoused all that Adam Smith laid out in his "Wealth of Nations" book and the idea of division of labor.

So, anyone telling you that division of labor is an ideal born from Sociology, is incorrect. It is an economic idea created by economic minds. The sociology of work came much later as the american and english post mercantile economies and economic competition were becoming the order of the day. Sociology as a serious profession was not even in the works at that time. Sociology only found its feet when it became clear that the condition of man in the post agrarian society was fairly different from the condition of man before that time. People were prone to work whenever they needed money and fled work when they had enough. Thus productivity at work was totally erratic. Skilled work men were hard to find. And when you found one, it was hard to train them to use new machines as they were manufactured and brought into the industry, because at that time, education was not yet considered a public good.

There is more to this story than meets the eye. But if you get the chance to study pre and pst industrial america, you will be amazed at how similar the conditions we face today, are similar to the conditions of yesterday, but only more complex.

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Part aesthetics and part performance. The way i see it, the G-35 was designed to be messed with. After taking a look at some parts of the car, and taking a look at other cars, I came to the conclusion that Infiniti had intended the G-35 and the 350z to be moded out completely. Infiniti has given every manufactuere possible and its customers, the tacit acceptance of moding out their car. So, why not?

For example, Infiniti says Supercharger installation beyond 7psi will void warranty. Indirectly they are saying it is okay to mod your car with anything you can lay your hands on, not to exceed 7 psi. What do you think?

nbgiant25
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Jacko3 wrote:Joe603:

You are totally correct! Division of labor was first crafted as an economic ideal under market ethics by Adam Smith in 1776 in his book, "the wealth of nations". While Adam Smith was a Scottish man with linkages to England, his ideas were well accepted in America before it even took hold in Europe. His idea of division of labor later gave rise to the law of absolute advantge, which is considered one of the primary trade theories out there. Adam Smith's idea of division of Labor and John Locke's view of the role of govt, all help shape the declaration of independence in America. Adam Smith was never recognized for his work until the 19th century when the world finally realized that work had to be discretely assigned to each individual for greater productivity gains. Henry Ford and the manufacture of the Model T, espoused all that Adam Smith laid out in his "Wealth of Nations" book and the idea of division of labor.

So, anyone telling you that division of labor is an ideal born from Sociology, is incorrect. It is an economic idea created by economic minds. The sociology of work came much later as the american and english post mercantile economies and economic competition were becoming the order of the day. Sociology as a serious profession was not even in the works at that time. Sociology only found its feet when it became clear that the condition of man in the post agrarian society was fairly different from the condition of man before that time. People were prone to work whenever they needed money and fled work when they had enough. Thus productivity at work was totally erratic. Skilled work men were hard to find. And when you found one, it was hard to train them to use new machines as they were manufactured and brought into the industry, because at that time, education was not yet considered a public good.

There is more to this story than meets the eye. But if you get the chance to study pre and pst industrial america, you will be amazed at how similar the conditions we face today, are similar to the conditions of yesterday, but only more complex.
very nice with the link to smith...

i agree completely that smith's idea of DoL predates durkheim, but (and this is just the sociologist in me) i believe that smith's DoL concept is very limited in scope, while durkheim sought a more enlightened understanding of human existence, not just economic ideals....

anyway, enough with the academia and on with the car talk...

(nice to see, however, that this forum is a bit more intelligent than most)

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nbgiant25:

You are actually right! Durkheim contributed immensely to the sociology of work, after it became evident that work was not just an economic ideal, but also had a social segment to it. So, what Jogn Locke and Max Weber did for govt and public administration, is what Adam Smith did for economics, is what Durkheim did for Sociology, and is what Freud did for Psychology, and is what Chares Babbage, Frederick Taylor, and Henri Fayol, did to operations management at work.


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Jacko3 wrote:nbgiant25:

You are actually right! Durkheim contributed immensely to the sociology of work, after it became evident that work was not just an economic ideal, but also had a social segment to it. So, what Jogn Locke and Max Weber did for govt and public administration, is what Adam Smith did for economics, is what Durkheim did for Sociology, and is what Freud did for Psychology, and is what Chares Babbage, Frederick Taylor, and Henri Fayol, did to operations management at work.
Man....how could you leave out Milton Friedman!!!! His economic views are still used to justify profits by corporations. While I agree with him, in that a company should not be in the business of charity, that should be an individual shareholder function, using the profits from the company. Unfortunately this doesn't work as most of us are selfish. Therefore a modified economic principle should be used.
nbgiant25 wrote:(nice to see, however, that this forum is a bit more intelligent than most)
Yup, NICO is full of eggheads who also love cars!

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Joe603:

You raise a very interesting and historical argument about the role of business in our society. Tghe argument you raised has dogged our nation since the beginning of pre-industrial america. We have never found an answer to it yet.

Systems theorists beleive the businesses role is to provide for the wealth of of its stakeholders beyond mere profits. Stake holders are everyone tied n one way or the other to the organization. Milton Friedman, advocated pure capitalism that unhinged social responsibility from the role of many cooperations. He is partly right. Other theorists such as the Late Peter drucker, saw the objective of corporations as creating customers, instead of profit. Without customers you can't make profit. Even more recently, we are seeing people like Bill Gates advocatiing the social responsibility part of corporate behavior.

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I came here to learn more about cars, and now have a new wealth of info on the division of labour.


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