All members/mods/admins. please Read. I'm fed up.

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Altiman94
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I've really begun to ponder this site after the comment I received from AZhitman. I have no problems iwth the guy, his moderating skills, or his knowledge about cars. I replied to a post in which there was a discussion on buying a muscle car vs. an infiniti. Being I personally do not liek the Q45 much at all, I replied in favor of the muscle cars. I love all lt-1/ls-1 powered vehicles as they are fast, and the t/a's feel very luxarious in my opinion. AzHitman replied with this: You've repeatedly proven to the members of this forum that you know jack about cars. Do yourself a favor - Put down the "SuperStreet" magazine and learn something about the cars you discuss. You'll stay out of hot water, and you might actually make a friend or two.

p.s. I'll be posting your "240" comment in the 240 General forum - Those guys haven't been fed in a few days, i'm sure they'll eat that up.

I might ask you AZ, how have I proved I don't knwo about cars. As I've stated in that thread, I have done all the work on every single one of my cars myself and have done many engine swaps and rebuilds. How can you say I know nothing about cars. You don't know me personally and you have no idea what my car looks like nor the quality of my work. I did not personally insult you. I never stated I didn't like your car, I merely said I did not like Q45's as a whole. Being you are a moderator, I would you would be the last person to personally insult someone. I have never said one degrading thing about you. Your Q does look nice for a Q, I'm just not loving infiniti styling as much I do European cars via the M series BMW's. I know I'm not the only person to ever be insulted, but I'm tired of readin posts where this is happening. Sure, I may have done it myself. I've proabbylsaid a car loosk bad, or "take off that wing" or something like that, but that is hardly close to personally degrading someone's work. I have never mentioned your work as a car salesmen and I feel I deserve an apology from you. I currently will be studying mechanial engineering, so you can hardly say I don't know anything about cars. I've driven a Q, and I've driven a BMW, and a t/a and I must say, i liked hte latter two cars more than I liked the Q. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. If you think my work is bad, I invite you to come work on my cars for me. I will not objec to that, but as long as I am doing the work myself, you have no right to degrade it any, way, shape, or form. I did not appreciate that comment one bit. And since I'm in the 240 general and you said you wanted to show them what I said I might as well say it myself. I would trade my 240sx for a foxbody 5.0 any day of the week. My first love came with the 5.0 engine and the mustang foxbody. I love the buildability the engine offers and i enjoy the cars styling. If you wanna hold that against me, so be it. But AZ, for being a grown mature man, that comment was really low and I definitely deserve a comment.

P.S. I know I'm *****ing here, and that's my goal. I want all the members to see how I was personally attacked by a moderator and the maturity our site really has. And mods, if you can't take this post, delete it, and me off this forum along with it.


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Nebraska240sx
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good point

CanadianCoch
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I totally agree. **** like that is exactly why NICO is referred to as useless and for 16 year old kids that don't know Sh*t that lie about their cars.

Dr.

Altiman94
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I'm not even really looking to get public agreement, I just want my rightfully deserved apology from AZ. This sort of thing is just becoming too common and this site is going downhill. I am here because I like to talk cars, not just nissan/infiniti's.

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PalmerWMD
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Immature stunts like this are getting real old.

And you <were > missing quite a few facts.If we Admins are so evil how come I invited you over to my house, so you could make it to a meet?

Here is the thread, for all to see:

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....41034

Fred..(sigh)

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PalmerWMD
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The only thing NICO can be faulted for is not deleting BS like this, as soon as it comes up.

On other big Nissan sites like maxima.org, FA etc, threads like this would mean an instant banning, no questions asked.

We dont believe in that here.

Maybe because we are so lenient ,we are attracating immature members?

Hmmm...

Fred...:rolleyes:

Altiman94
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Fred, I never said AZ was a bad guy, but what he said was disrespecting myself as a person. I have never once said anything bad about your nor him on a personal basis. If this is immature, then I don't know what his comment was. I deserve my apology and I'm not gonna shut up until I receive it.

IneedMoney
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im with you man, that **** is not right. my bros 5.0 will school me anyday of the week and a lt-1 will run low 12 with $1000 put in to it (i,h,e) i drive a 240 because of its looks what can be done to it. and the moderater thats not right i thought it was there job to stop big flames. but now im :confused:

Altiman94
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and if you want to ban me, I won't argue with it. I feel it would be taking one for the team, and atleast I would have gotten my message across. As anyone who knwos me knows, I'm extremely knowlegable abotu cars. I just don't go spurting my knowledge out. If a mechanical problem with my car arises, I'll be the first to find and fix it.

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PalmerWMD
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And why should we even care that you are "fed up"?

We are giving you a free place to learn , enjoy and occasionally spout off.

And we <owe> you something for it?????

Fred..:rolleyes:

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PalmerWMD
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No one is going to ban you.You are just having a bad day.

Fred...:)

Altiman94
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Like I said before, I'm not looking for public approval or anything. I just want my apology that is deserved.

Altiman94
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well I'm not really having that bad of a day before I read that comment. I got off work early and spent the whole day with my girlfriend. I actually was having a pretty good day until that comment he (az) made really strut my personal dignity.

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i agree, i cant stand how much hating has been going on latley. and seems like only 1 out of ever 50 threads has to do with car related topics. ive only been here for about 5 months but i think when i first started posting it was a bit different.AZ was prolly in a bad mood or sumthing, or he had just read ur post in a more harsh tone than you meant it to be, which i do myself alot cuz its hard to tell the tone of somebody when its typing.CanadianCoch: "that is exactly why NICO is referred to as useless and for 16 year old kids that don't know Sh*t that lie about their cars." i dont really agree with that. Im 16. and i think i know a lot about cars. although there are alot of 16 yr olds out there that dont know **** about cars (i kno cuz i listen to them everyday in school) not all are that ignorant and for the most part are just now getting into cars so they havent had the years of experiance that others have had.

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i agree with palmer... from what i read, you did not just say your opion of the Q, you said it was crap and any american muscle can beat it... like some one said in the thread... you dont go into a lions den and proceed to ***** slap it and not expect to get bit.

seems like you owe AZ and everyone who has read this thread and every Q owner an appology

Altiman94
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I admit that when I was 16 I didn't know much about cars, but everyone needs a place to learn without being personally harassed and degraded like I feel I was.

Altiman94
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I'm not gonna apologize for my comments on the Q. I don't like them, pure and simple, but I never said anything personally degrading to AZ or any other Q owner. I was personally degraded, and the fact is, any real muscle car would beat the Q. The Q runs hi 15's int he 1/4, and any ls1/lt1 powered car is atleast 2 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. I don't care what speed your traveling, 2 seconds in the 1/4 is 2 seconds.

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Nebraska240sx
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TO each his own once again, but this is flamed out and needs to be shut down, I agreed only for the reason that a Mod or admin should act a little more respondsibly, and be careful with the words they say.

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haha. r u kidding? i dont like Qs much either but i mean... Qs are luxary cars! mustangs and camaros are cheap cars with big engines in them! when u pay for a Q ur not paying for it's 1/4 mile (most people) ur paying for it's class and luxary along with speed(for its class) its not a car built only for speed. oh, and when u call a car crap and such, it hurts just as much as a personal comment to some because of the amount of time spent with their cars and emotional attachments to them.

p.s.: i have not read the thread where this discussion took place cuz im too lazy im just going off of what people have posted in here.

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Mr1der
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you're hitting the nail on the head anyway.

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Quit acting all butt-hurt. I'm rapidly running out of Kleenex.

You came into MY house and disrespected MY car. Plain and simple. Then you spouted off statements that have no basis in reality, and expect people to respect that? And now you're DEMANDING an apology? Please. I suppose your mom's gonna call my mom now?

If I said something derogatory about your 240, you wouldn't take it well either. Neither would any of the other members.

Your "dignity" will heal. And trust me, youngster, you're gonna hear a lot worse than that as you get older - May as well get used to it. Perhaps you should file a formal complaint with the Administrator (oh, wait - that's me...) if you were so "degraded" over my comments.

Better yet, stick to forums where your knowledge will be appreciated - Because you clearly know very little about the cars you mentioned in that thread.

Drama queens are a dime a dozen. Don't allow yourelf to become one of them.

Altiman94
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You personally insulted me, I should be able to come on this site without being personally insulted. You not only insulted me personally, but also my father. He is the most hardworking person I have ever met and has taught me everythign I know abotu cars. He takes care of his vehicles better than anyone I've ever met in my life. How many 45 year old men do you know that have the knowledge and skill to swap a h22 in into a g2 teg?

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PalmerWMD
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And this is a good place, for me to lock this thread, members interested in our local soap opera can still read whats in here.

Fred...:)

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Oh good Lord.

You certainly have twisted this into a pity-party, haven't you?

No one insulted your father. I said if his Q wasn't fast, it's probably poorly-maintained. A well-maintained Q can run in the VERY low 15's, some members have seen 14.9's. If you take offense to that, whatever.

I'm weary of this juvenile nonsense. Have a nice night.


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