All KA's the same?

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
Tatsuo
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hey I was just curious if the frint wheel drive KA's will work on a RWD application . also I wanted to make sure that there is nothing major to change from a KA24E to a KA24DE. Do you need to change manifolds with it as well, or just the head, timing chain ect? Note this is not going into a car that reguarly has one of these engines in it.

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the FWD ka is not the same as the RWD ka, the distributor goes on the back of the head of the FWD ka, the 1 on the RWD ka goes to the side of the upper front cover.

the only changes between the SOHC & DOHC(E & DE) is upper part of the engine, as in the cylinder head, the intake/exhaust manifolds, and i believe the pistons too.

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FWD sits like ------- this, RWD sits like | this... you can't switch them around in your car.
TheOne™ wrote:the only changes between the SOHC & DOHC(E & DE) is upper part of the engine, as in the cylinder head, the intake/exhaust manifolds, and i believe the pistons too.
Actually, it's all different for the most part, not just the head; even the block has differences, so you can't mix/match everything.

Original poster - if your car is RWD, stick to RWD parts.

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No, you are all wrong. Everyone in this forum is now dumber having heard what you have said, ok. Now the FWD and RWD KA24s are completely different, they're have similarities, but they can't be used on a RWD application. And I wasn't calling your comments stupid "itsRaine," just "TheOne." So to give you some correct information, the KA24DE and KA24E are completely different, the KA24DE is DOHC, which is Dual Over-Head Cam, meaning there is two of them, the KA24E is an SOHC, Single Over-Head Cam, only one. The whole intake manifold setup, and the manifold it-self are different.

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hey thats a pretty sweet 510! Sorry but you can make it a RWD it just takes alot more work and money. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/591037 if you got ka swap questions ask this kid cause i personally helped him do this swap. it wasnt a FWD ka but it was a RWD one! lol

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Ni2s4s0aSnX wrote:No, you are all wrong. Everyone in this forum is now dumber having heard what you have said, ok. Now the FWD and RWD KA24s are completely different, they're have similarities, but they can't be used on a RWD application. And I wasn't calling your comments stupid "itsRaine," just "TheOne." So to give you some correct information, the KA24DE and KA24E are completely different, the KA24DE is DOHC, which is Dual Over-Head Cam, meaning there is two of them, the KA24E is an SOHC, Single Over-Head Cam, only one. The whole intake manifold setup, and the manifold it-self are different.
i did say the FWD & RWD ka's are different, and i also did say the upper half of the E is not the same as the DE if you would have re-read that, i didn't really know on the lower half(the block), but i remember now that even the brackets for the accesories aren't the same.

not sayin that you are wrong or anything, just sayin that maybe you should have re-read my answer.

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The only thing that you really need to know is that the fwd ka's do not bolt to a rwd transmission, and there is not a bellhousing that will mate the fwd block to rwd. You need a rwd ka, one from a 240sx or a d21/22 nissan truck.

Both the intake and exhaust manifolds on the sohc/dohc are different and do not interchange. You will need the appropriate versions of each.

If your planning to swap a dohc head on a sohc shortblock, you will need to use the dohc intake/exhaust manifolds.

One part that may be of interest to you that will interchange (if you plan to install a sohc ka) is a header from a Z series engine. You can do some mild porting to change the ports from squarish to round and your set. I figure id throw that in, might be a helpful tip if you have lots of datsun parts around.

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hey thats a pretty sweet 510! Sorry but you can make it a RWD it just takes alot more work and money. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/591037 if you got ka swap questions ask this kid cause i personally helped him do this swap. it wasnt a FWD ka but it was a RWD one! lol

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Thank you DeviousKA, that is what I needed to know. Although I do plan to do DOHC, I will have to look into the Z engine manifold trick, that could be handy in the future. thanks for the compliments on the paint job everyone, go to http://www.warpedcustoms.com/510.htm , thats where the paint job was done.Lastly, I was curious as to anyone who has had any experience with supercharger kits for the KA engine, please leave the turbo comments out of this as I would be much happier with a supercharger.

Thanks,Tatsuo

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supercharger would have to be completely custom unless there is a company I don't know of that makes a kit.


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