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So I ran across this article on the Car Connection about convertible owners and the generalizations they make about ownership are pretty hysterical.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10 ... #src=10065

According to them:

almost 20% of vert owners make >$175K
almost 12% of vert owners have a home worth > $1 million
+50% of vert owners have a bachelor's degree or higher
the majority of vert owners live in CA and FL
The most popular verts sold in the US are The Mustang
The Sebring :wtf2:
The Miata
72% of vert owners are over 45 years old
52% of all vert owners don't have kids

So, those of you that are owners, how many of these stats apply to you?


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Absolutely none of those apply to me. Whoever came up with this is a complete moron.

I do realize there are a lot of people that buy verts as a "mid-life crisis" vehicle, but i'm pretty sure that applies to a small portion of the market.

Also, while the statistic may be true about the Sebring, who in the heck puts it on a list with a Mustang and a Miata? Personally based on what I see on the road a lot, my list would be as follows.

1. Chevrolet Corvette
2. Jeep Wrangler (Yeah it's a convertible too)
3. Mazda Miata
4. Ford Mustang
5. Toyota Camry Solara

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James sent me that article yesterday.

As for what applies to me, I certainly don't make 175k (though that would be pretty sweet), but I will never have a home worth a million bucks. Thats just silly.
On the other than, I do have a bachelors, own a miata (at least for a tad bit longer), am not 45+ (I will be one day and will still have a convertible), and do not have or want kids.

From what I can gather, the point of this article is that owning a convertible will make you prosper.

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frapjap wrote:From what I can gather, the point of this article is that owning a convertible will make you prosper.
Basically the article needed to say nothing more than "Owning a convertible makes your life better. Go buy one now."

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The only ones that apply to us are 'Has no Kids' and 'Bachelor's Degree'

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Kompresshun wrote:
frapjap wrote:From what I can gather, the point of this article is that owning a convertible will make you prosper.
Basically the article needed to say nothing more than "Owning a convertible makes your life better. Go buy one now."
There was an article about convertible owners being happier than most other traditional car owners, but I can't find it for the life of me.

Here is what Forbes said about the same article. I love the intro:
In what might be a case of convoluted logic, data suggests it takes an above-average income and education to drive what, by all measures, is one of the least practical cars on the road. That would be a convertible, most of which are plagued by cramped passenger cabins with virtually no back seat room (if there is one in the first place) and a dearth of cargo space, and are fully enjoyed under only what would be considered ideal climactic conditions.

According to a recent analysis conducted by Experian Automotive in Schaumburg, Ill., more than half of all convertible owners have at least a bachelor’s degree (compared with 38.2 percent of the general population), with nearly 19 percent having a household income of over $175,000 and 11.7 percent owning a home that’s worth over $1 million (versus an average 10.7 and 4.4 percent, respectively).

While they’re far from being rational choices, ragtops convey a sense of freedom and emotion that no other vehicle type can offer, and there’s no better automotive experience than racing the sun and clouds overhead with the wind rushing through one’s hair.

Back in the “Mad Men” era, ragtops might have been favored primarily by young “swinging singles,” but today they’re typically purchased by empty nesters as a “reward car,” often as the third model in a family’s fleet. For the record, the Double-Tongued Dictionary defines a reward car as “an (extravagant, frivolous, or impractical) automobile purchased as a gift to oneself when financial or personal goals have been achieved.”

To that end, Experian says more than 72 percent of convertible buyers are 45 years old or older, with nearly 52 percent either never having or no longer having a child living at home.

As one might imagine, more open-air autos are sold in sunnier regions of the U.S. than in the Snow Belt, with 23 percent of them being registered in either California (at 13.4 percent) or Florida (9.6 percent). However, the top five ragtop markets in the nation include New York City and Chicago, where the schizophrenic weather tends to relegate even the most affordable of the lot to true luxury status (the other top cities being Los Angeles, San Francisco and Atlanta). The growing popularity of so-called hardtop convertibles, with power-retractable steel roofs that afford greater sound insulation and protection from the elements than a standard cloth top, has no doubt helped make them four-season cars for many cold-climate aficionados.

Not surprisingly, the metropolitan area having the lowest volume of convertibles according to the company’s research is Glendive, Mont., where one would assume a Ford F-150 pickup truck in its posh King Ranch trim level is the reward car of choice.

“The one long-standing perception of convertible vehicles is that they are driven predominately by consumers who live in sunny, coastal areas,” says Brad Smith, director for Experian Automotive. “While that notion certainly rings true, it’s not the only difference. Our research shows that convertible drivers also tend to be more affluent than the average new car buyer. One explanation to this could be that more luxury brands tend to have a convertible option.”

Of course it also helps that a typical convertible costs several thousand dollars more than a closed cabin counterpart.

Still, with 4.5 million of them on the road as of the first quarter of 2014, convertibles make up just 1.8 percent of the U.S. vehicle market, according to Experian. The most popular convertible in the U.S. remains the Ford Mustang, with the remainder of the top five ragtops on the road including the Chrysler Sebring/200, Mazda Miata/MX-5, BMW 3 Series and the Chevrolet Corvette. Hot fun!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelan ... rvey-says/

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nissangirl74 wrote:almost 20% of vert owners make >$175K
almost 12% of vert owners have a home worth > $1 million
+50% of vert owners have a bachelor's degree or higher
the majority of vert owners live in CA and FL
The most popular verts sold in the US are The Mustang
The Sebring :wtf2:
The Miata
72% of vert owners are over 45 years old
52% of all vert owners don't have kids
These numbers make a lot of sense and don't seem out of whack for new Convertible owners.

The typical new car buyer is in his mid-50's and makes over $75k. Considering convertibles are often second (or third) cars, if someone is buying one new, chances are they have more disposable income than the average consumer... 20% making $175k+ and 73% being 45+ seems about right. And since you don't have to try to fit kids in the back seat and a lack of children increases disposable income, I would have expected more to not have kids.

Property values in Miami, LA, Orange County and San Francisco are pretty high ($1MM often gets you less than 2000 square feet). In Manhattan, the average 1 bedroom apartment costs more than that (with $1k+/month in maintenance fees on top of that). So, with concentrations on the coasts, 12% having $1MM+ homes seems about right.

And the Sebring/200 convertible has often been the top-selling convertible-- but not to individuals. Rental car lots are often full of them, as they are a relatively inexpensive, have a useable back seat and are less expensive to insure than other cars. They may not be desirable (I rented a brand new one once in LA and it was garbage), but it makes sense from a rental company perspective.

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Yeah, I guess 3.
Bachelor's degree, miata owner, no kids.

The stats don't seem unfathomable to me either. I'm a straight shooter with upper management written all over me.

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Convertible owners have the luxury of buying a car that they don't necessarily need. Those people tend to be older and educated with the higher incomes that come along with having gone to college (oh no, not this topic again!).

I'm convinced that most Miata guys are married men over the age of 35.

The Sebring was a really hot seller in the 90s and early 2000s. It was plush, stylish (for the first couple designs), and had practical room for four adults. At the time, the F-body and Mustang were kind of crude with unusably small back seats and a complete lack of luxury. The third generation ruined the Sebring for good.

I used to have an old Saab and before that I had a late-model 3-series convertible. I definitely make less than 175k, I'm definitely under 45, I do have a degree, and I live in the middle of the country. I only believe in having children for the purpose of running a farm.

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nissangirl74 wrote:So, those of you that are owners, how many of these stats apply to you?
So when I owned my vert,
Made <175k, so I'm in the 80%
Did not own a home >1M, so in the 88%
Did not have a BS, so in the -50%
In KS
S2000
In my mid to late 20's
Had one kid. Sold it when I had two kids.

So I had none of them.

...Sorta on the prowl for another though.


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