I'm sure that somewhere out in cyberspace, this has been beat to death but I didn't find it. I just wanted to know how much of a difference there is in the KYB AGX and the Koni Yellow Sports. Besides price ofcourse.
Thanks guys,Cliff
AGX & Koni Yellows
I've driven on both but not on the same car so a handling comparo is out of the question. Both were sitting on ground control coilovers too... Anyway, they were both good IMO. The only advantage I see with the Koni Yellows is that they are rebuildable...but the cost of rebuild is almost the cost (I think it's $100/strut...not sure though) of a new KYB AGX. I also hear the Koni's hold up better to lowering your car past recommended heights (e.g. slamming your car). So if that's your kind of thing, maybe you should think about the Koni's.
Then really it's up to you. Do you want to rebuild or throw away? Personally, if I don't go with a full coilover kit again, I'm going to get the Koni Yellows. I just hear far less bad stories about them. The 2 most common things I hear about KYBs are that the struts blow rather quickly and that sometimes they don't settle (like one corner of the car sticking up in the air). Still, for most it's a toss-up.
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GoofyATX240 wrote:Umm KYB (AGX) dont blow fast at all ive had mine on for awhile on sportlines.Same for another guy with agx/sportline setup and agxs adjusted to the hardest setting for over a year now and there still not blown.
Oh...ok.:rolleyes
So are you saying that you and your friend make up for the entire KYB AGX community? I mean, since you guys had no problems, nobody should have any problems, right?:rant
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Dori Dori wrote:Oh...ok.:rolleyes
So are you saying that you and your friend make up for the entire KYB AGX community? I mean, since you guys had no problems, nobody should have any problems, right?:rant
Did I say me and my friend made up the whole community?I swear you always seem to have something dead crawl up your ***.
well, I have never heard of an incident involving the AGX or KONI yellow(blow outs anyway) that didnt involve something really dumb, like excessive lowering, etc.
either shockwill suit anyone well, I am getting a full coilover setup(cusco or apex-i I think) sometime, but I like the adjustability of the agx, as do many autocrossers I know.
but, most people will never USE that adjustability except the first week they own them, they set it how they like it and are done, never adjustiting it any more...if you dont plan on using it, I would just get a nice non-adjustble shock like the koni or bilstein, etc.
just my .02.
either shockwill suit anyone well, I am getting a full coilover setup(cusco or apex-i I think) sometime, but I like the adjustability of the agx, as do many autocrossers I know.
but, most people will never USE that adjustability except the first week they own them, they set it how they like it and are done, never adjustiting it any more...if you dont plan on using it, I would just get a nice non-adjustble shock like the koni or bilstein, etc.
just my .02.
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First off, allow me to link you to a website. http://www.grammarbook.com/exe....html
Now, it's obvious you have some memory problems so I will quote you again (this time, I'll take apart and review each part of your post). Remember, I am quoting what you wrote. Here we go!
Quote »Umm[/quote]Since you wondered where my hostility came from, I figured we should start here. See, I think it's obvious that you are trying to be sarcastic towards me here...either that, or you are just stupid. This was a toss-up for me, but I gave you the benifit of the doubt and went with sarcasim...maybe I shouldn't have though.... Quote »KYB (AGX) dont blow fast at all[/quote]That's a very strong statement. You are flat out telling everyone that KYB's (as a whole) don't blow fast at all...riiiiight?
Quote »ive had mine on for awhile on sportlines.Same for another guy with agx/sportline setup and agxs adjusted to the hardest setting for over a year now and there still not blown.[/quote]Now you are backing up your previous statement...'proving' that KYB's do not blow fast all. So, in short, you are saying "Dori, you idiot; KYB's don't blow fast at all because mine and my friends have had no problems for over a year".
Well that is just wrong. Go to http://www.nasioc.com and do a search for 'blown kyb agx' or 'blown agx's' or 'blown kyb's'...you get the picture...you will find that there are plenty of guys on there with blown KYB's. The general concensus believes that most of the blown strut issues are because of excessive lowering...which would void your warranty and keep you from getting a free replacement...but others claim to have not lowered past the limit and still not get a free replacement for their blown struts.
Look, sorry I spoiled your day by letting you know that KYB's have had some reliability issues in the past, but don't get your panties all in a bunch at me. I have nothing against your precious KYB's. As a matter of fact, my current car has KYB's (not AGX's) on them. Haven't you ever heard the phrase 'don't shoot the messanger'?
Now, it's obvious you have some memory problems so I will quote you again (this time, I'll take apart and review each part of your post). Remember, I am quoting what you wrote. Here we go!
Quote »Umm[/quote]Since you wondered where my hostility came from, I figured we should start here. See, I think it's obvious that you are trying to be sarcastic towards me here...either that, or you are just stupid. This was a toss-up for me, but I gave you the benifit of the doubt and went with sarcasim...maybe I shouldn't have though.... Quote »KYB (AGX) dont blow fast at all[/quote]That's a very strong statement. You are flat out telling everyone that KYB's (as a whole) don't blow fast at all...riiiiight?
Quote »ive had mine on for awhile on sportlines.Same for another guy with agx/sportline setup and agxs adjusted to the hardest setting for over a year now and there still not blown.[/quote]Now you are backing up your previous statement...'proving' that KYB's do not blow fast all. So, in short, you are saying "Dori, you idiot; KYB's don't blow fast at all because mine and my friends have had no problems for over a year".
Well that is just wrong. Go to http://www.nasioc.com and do a search for 'blown kyb agx' or 'blown agx's' or 'blown kyb's'...you get the picture...you will find that there are plenty of guys on there with blown KYB's. The general concensus believes that most of the blown strut issues are because of excessive lowering...which would void your warranty and keep you from getting a free replacement...but others claim to have not lowered past the limit and still not get a free replacement for their blown struts.
Look, sorry I spoiled your day by letting you know that KYB's have had some reliability issues in the past, but don't get your panties all in a bunch at me. I have nothing against your precious KYB's. As a matter of fact, my current car has KYB's (not AGX's) on them. Haven't you ever heard the phrase 'don't shoot the messanger'?
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AND NO i wasnt telling everyone that for the love of god i said it again and ill say it again i meant me and my friends experience.Common sense tells u theres problems with some peoples experiences.Same goes for every other product out there.But you take this to the heart or something and no i wasnt calling you and idiot.But whatever.
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hey goofy, theres a little button near the bottom right of your post when you post it, called "edit post", use that instead of multi-posting please. its a pet peeve of mine.
also, dori provides good, even if its controversial(see the brake hole discussion...) information thats worth thinking about.
I may not agree with him, much like C-kwick and I dont see exactly evenly, but hes definately a good source of information for contemplation.-chet
also, dori provides good, even if its controversial(see the brake hole discussion...) information thats worth thinking about.
I may not agree with him, much like C-kwick and I dont see exactly evenly, but hes definately a good source of information for contemplation.-chet
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whoa man, Im not yelling at you, Im providing some backround info on dori. relax. Im not here to yell at you dude.
Dori, K, c-kwick, myself and other guys on the board to critique posts sentance by sentance, usually by necessity of the problem, so dont take offense to it. K and myself offten get yelled at for being ***holes, etc but we're not, we're just trying to be as direct as possible to shorten a learning curve, esspecially about quesitons we see/hear every day.
anyways, good to see you posting.-chet
Dori, K, c-kwick, myself and other guys on the board to critique posts sentance by sentance, usually by necessity of the problem, so dont take offense to it. K and myself offten get yelled at for being ***holes, etc but we're not, we're just trying to be as direct as possible to shorten a learning curve, esspecially about quesitons we see/hear every day.
anyways, good to see you posting.-chet
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Sorry if that came off as me yelling at ya.Im not yelling I just type out whatever I feel like saying nothing against you or anything.I wasnt really taking much offense its just if someone acts a *** towards me im gonna do the same back.
But o well put it behind us.I always end up laughing this off anyways so its all good to me.Hopefully we all get along better.
But o well put it behind us.I always end up laughing this off anyways so its all good to me.Hopefully we all get along better.
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im getting them from summit for i beleive it was 245 to the door (free shipping). Nah im not cutting my springs i have coil overs. Cant wait for them, you guys got suggestion on what i should set them at. IM only get the agx for the front, b/c i had already bought tokico non adjustables for the rear (they give me a great launch) and decided to get the adjustables insted for the front .
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Hi everyone I am new to the board and a very proud owner of a 93 240sx fastback.
Anyways I too am in the market for new struts, seeing as my old Macphersons are blown. Now I need to get a good sturdy set of struts all around. I am trying to build a decently good suspension before i put any more money into my motor. Currently i have Eibach sportline springs and I was looking into the KYB/AGX struts but I am questioning that idea now. Who makes good struts for 240s? What would you guys recomend? Im only 18 and make about $7 an hour so i think coilovers are out of the question... For now at least....
Thanks
Anyways I too am in the market for new struts, seeing as my old Macphersons are blown. Now I need to get a good sturdy set of struts all around. I am trying to build a decently good suspension before i put any more money into my motor. Currently i have Eibach sportline springs and I was looking into the KYB/AGX struts but I am questioning that idea now. Who makes good struts for 240s? What would you guys recomend? Im only 18 and make about $7 an hour so i think coilovers are out of the question... For now at least....
Thanks