agressive driving

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tigerclaws1318
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i know this is gonna be kinda stupid but whatever. does anyone drive their m45 agressively cause i try my best not to cause i love it to death and dont wanna experience any issues in the future. there are times where i would go wide open throttle and its a nice feeling but i keep telling myself not too. i use to beat the **** outta my 03 corolla and now its having weird engine noise such as the valves making ticking sounds and other noises. i dont want my m45 to experience the same thing lol. so im wondering how you guys drive your cars and have any issues with the engine.


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I have had my 2003 M45 for over five years now, and just over 69k miles.

With lots of "aggressive" driving and high-speeds. It thrives on it!

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nmgoodthing
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Same here. My Silver bullet gets upset if I don't open her up.

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Maintain aggressively whether you drive aggressively (or not!) and all will be OK!

ArbitrageMan
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Lifes too short for all that worrying. Something could happen tomorrow and you'd have missed out on the fun.

Besides, these are machines. They dont know "aggressive" versus tame. As long as they're maintained and kept below the red line, you're not damaging anything.

One more thing...I dated a girl with an '03 corolla. There is no possible way to drive that car aggressively. Its not capable of aggressive.

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Agreed. M stand for Man. Drive it like one & keep your M healthy.

For the Corolla, it may benefit from a series of more and more aggressive steps to remedy it such as the following.

1. Clean the throttle body (easy to DIY)2. Replce plugs (I don't CARE if they are supposed to be 100K plugs) Also DIY3. Consider a seafoam treatment through a vaccuum hose. (invasive)4. Consider a motor flush with an oil treatment dsigned to be used just before an oil change (most invasive)5. switch to synythetic oil.

and no, you're asking for blood from a stone to drive it so hard, however it should not make noise like that and should not be a turtle when really pushed into the redline. That car doesn't make any real power until after 4K RPM.

saeedakobiakov
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oil change every 3k and not 3750k, especially if you beat on it.

tigerclaws1318
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Double E wrote:Agreed. M stand for Man. Drive it like one & keep your M healthy.

For the Corolla, it may benefit from a series of more and more aggressive steps to remedy it such as the following.

1. Clean the throttle body (easy to DIY)2. Replce plugs (I don't CARE if they are supposed to be 100K plugs) Also DIY3. Consider a seafoam treatment through a vaccuum hose. (invasive)4. Consider a motor flush with an oil treatment dsigned to be used just before an oil change (most invasive)5. switch to synythetic oil.

and no, you're asking for blood from a stone to drive it so hard, however it should not make noise like that and should not be a turtle when really pushed into the redline. That car doesn't make any real power until after 4K RPM.
yeah the corolla was maintained pretty well. it has been seafoamed, always mobil 1 synthetic oil change, transmission fluid change every 15k, spark plug changed, and only has 66k miles on it lol

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digiboy
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Jeez, I traded in my '96 Corolla for a 35x. 120K+ miles and the only trouble I ever had was from hitting a big chunk of concrete I didn't see coming around a corner an it made one wheel go flat occasionally.

Not sure which nation it was made in - I'm not saying, I'm just saying....

GJEMD
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Aggressive driving can mean a lot of things. The main thing to remember is lugging around defeats the purpose of owning a high performance engine and it will ultimately result in drive ability issues. The single most damaging event is running short distance < 15 min on a cold start. At least run it out in manual sift mode to 5000 rpm in the first 4 gears a couple times a week should suffice. Check the oil once a week and keep it between the marks. As far as change intervals if you use Amzoil or Mobil one and a high end filter every three 3000 is simply a waste of resources assuming its paved surface driving with min stop and go. The Factory certainly wishes to avoid warranty work and they recommend 7500 miles. if you own a 2004 M45 or a 2003 with proper break in you probably can't hurt this engine no matter how aggressively you drive it. If you have an oil user keep it topped off and drive the hell out of it until Infinit decides to replace it.

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GJEMD wrote: The Factory certainly wishes to avoid warranty work and they recommend 7500 miles.
Only for extended highway use at cruising speeds in temperate weather.

Urban driving is severe duty and thus OCI is 3,750 miles. Same for winter driving, hot summer driving, high speed driving, or mountain driving.

daveM45
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Let the car warm up first and cool down after.

I see no issue with driving it hard once you've allowed everything to warm up to operating temp but full throttle after a cold start is not healthy. I also like to drive easy for a couple minutes afterward to let things cool. Back when cars had real temperature and oil pressure gauges you could get a better feel for just how much damage you were doing - high oil pressures during cold start and watching the temp jump after turning it off.

PJnM45
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Just last month I put my 2004 M45 on a track. I have included a link the the event photos. There are about 600 photos. My Y34 and I are in about 90 shots.

Hope the link works.

http://g3motorsports.smugmug.c...idh2u

saeedakobiakov
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how did the car do?did you pass any cars on the straight away?hopefully you have good tires.

PJnM45
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The M45 is fast but, one of the G37 gave me a hard time. When he was behind me he would catch me and I would yield. After he passed, I could stay on his rear. Using paddle shifters, he did a much better job keeping his rpm up. It really came to play in the hairpin uphill turn. We were in the fast group.

I have Remington Fierce tires.


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PJnM45 wrote:The M45 is fast but, one of the G37 gave me a hard time. When he was behind me he would catch me and I would yield. After he passed, I could stay on his rear. Using paddle shifters, he did a much better job keeping his rpm up. It really came to play in the hairpin uphill turn. We were in the fast group.

I have Remington Fierce tires.
very nice track pictures. As for the aggressive driving.... Since I added the 20's... Nice and smooth driving for me.

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Pic 217 & 226 of 610...it looks like you were about to lift the inside rear wheel!!!

Questions....Why were you running with the sunroof open? Advantages?

What tire pressures did you use? Did making any changes help?

Did you take out the spare and anything else (passenger seat, etc.) to adjust or lower weight?

Were you the oldest car out there?

I assume you used auto-stick, is that right?

Did you also drive with 2 feet or stay with one for brake/gas?

What pads & rotors are you using?

Did you keep TCS off the whole time and did you defeat the SLIP system by pulling the fuse?

What seemed to be the biggest hinderance on the M ...compared to the other cars (weight, acceleration out of curves, transmission lag, shift points, etc.)?

Lastly...what did that session cost?

saeedakobiakov
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"What seemed to be the biggest hinderance on the M ...compared to the other cars (weight, acceleration out of curves, transmission lag, shift points, etc.)?"

The answer:

traction control should be turned off at every time you start your car, atleast that's what i do.

now that gas prices went down my driving got more aggresive and the transmission makes it impossible .so the transmission is the worst part in this car, but actually the second worst . The lacking of lsd makes it first.so it is a cruiser not a racer. unless you on highway, dont bother do anything.

maxnix
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CakeDaddy wrote: Since I added the 20's... Nice and smooth driving for me.
That's why too low and too big must be too slow.

PJnM45
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The session was FREE for those who purchase an M or G car from Grubbs Infiniti.

It was not very technical. We drove our cars as is; spare tires and open sunroof. Stock brakes and tires. Track tire pressure was set the last time I or the guy at Discount Tire set it.

I was the only M that class.

I believe I was the only pre-owned.

It was highly recommended that traction control stayed on.

I spent most of the 50 miles on the 1.3 mile track in auto. As the miles past, confidence grew. I was able to slide the stick to the right.

The biggest hinderance for my M45 was the driver. I like to go fast; but i did not want to put my car in the weeds. I just bought it in May and I still look back at it as I walk away.

The last thing we did was get a demonstration ride in a G35 with the professional driver. I am glad they did it last. If it was at the start some of us would have been pushing our cars to the highway for the insurance adjuster.

End of the day it was fun at a cool place. You can see a lot of cool rides gettin after it at Texas Motorsport Ranch. There were two Ford GT-40 on the next track.

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That is just purely awesome! Did you nitice any brake fade as I hear it is common in Nissan-Infinitis?

Very Cool!Kyle


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