Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

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Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby elight » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:46 am

I recently purchased a 2013 Rogue SV w/ SL package, fully loaded. While I like the car, I have found the stereo to be so lacking that I am already thinking about replacing it. (The navigation is so useless that I will likely never use it again. The audio interface is cumbersome. I really wish there was Bluetooth streaming.)

I know that many aftermarket stereos have support for a back-up camera, but in searching around, I have not found anyone that has the Around View cameras that has tried to go the aftermarket route. Does anyone know if it is possible? Are the controls that switch the camera views part of the factory stereo unit, or does that switching happen before the video signal reaches it (which I would think means that the switching button would still work)?
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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby ImStricken06 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:09 pm

elight wrote:I recently purchased a 2013 Rogue SV w/ SL package, fully loaded. While I like the car, I have found the stereo to be so lacking that I am already thinking about replacing it. (The navigation is so useless that I will likely never use it again. The audio interface is cumbersome. I really wish there was Bluetooth streaming.)

I know that many aftermarket stereos have support for a back-up camera, but in searching around, I have not found anyone that has the Surround View cameras that has tried to go the aftermarket route. Does anyone know if it is possible? Are the controls that switch the camera views part of the factory stereo unit, or does that switching happen before the video signal reaches it (which I would think means that the switching button would still work)?
not possible. the whole nissan system is very proprietary for right now. you will not find an aftermarket radio that can handle the around-view-monitor system. at most you will have is the rear facing camera and thats it. and no guarantee that you wont have to use an aftermarket rear cam on top of it all.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby elight » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:19 pm

Thanks. I guess I'm stuck with it!

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby zummuz » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:40 pm

The AVM system has its own module. Also the output of this system is standard video like all other cheap chinese cameras. All you have to do is to double check prior to change with a lcd screen the output of AVM module. Better find an specialist to check for you if electronics is not your best "feature". :chuckle:

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby Rogue One » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:24 am

ImStricken wrote: not possible. the whole nissan system is very proprietary for right now. you will not find an aftermarket radio that can handle the around-view-monitor system. at most you will have is the rear facing camera and thats it. and no guarantee that you wont have to use an aftermarket rear cam on top of it all.
TO: Pioneer Customer Service Department, features and specifications inquiry.
I own a 2012 Nissan Rogue SL with the Around-View Monitor System, which inputs four cameras to one screen. I would like to know if the Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS would be a compatible replacement. More importantly, will it display input from 4 cameras in rear view mode? Thank you for your assistance.

RE: Feature and Specification
Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.
Our displays only have a composite video input, for one video signal.
I do not know how the factory system outputs the video from their cameras. I would suggest consulting with a professional installer. They will have details on your vehicle and will advise what adapter you may need, if any.
Sincerely,
Rocky
Customer Service Representative

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby followingnfront » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:04 pm

I think the Bose sound system is awesome in this car!

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby elight » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:55 pm

Thank you Rogue for the information from Pioneer. If anyone does take their car into a professional car stereo installer for a look, I'd love to know what they say. I barely use the stereo at this point. The navigation is completely worthless (I use Google Maps on my Galaxy S3), and the Bluetooth dialing takes so much time to get through all of the menus that I often just dial from the phone. Navigating through my USB thumb drive is usually difficult, as is shuffling all songs inside a folder. Would love to replace this thing.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby rdub2k4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:16 am

If I had the surround view on our Rogue, I would definitely let you know. (former professional installer). Best I can do now is look at wiring diagrams and assume.

I have tapped into the factory rear camera on our S Special Edition, and it works like a charm.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby elight » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:52 pm

Thanks, rdub. Any insight you have from the wiring diagrams would be greatly appreciated. I would think it's either straightforward - either there's a single wire with a composite camera feeds (meaning a unit external to the stereo stitches them together), or there's four wires with four different feeds.

My guess (and hope) is that it's the former. Since other trim levels have the same exact stereo head unit, it doesn't seem logical that Nissan made a different one capable of taking input from four cameras. Makes much more sense that they would just insert an additional control unit (connected to the "Camera" button that switches the view) external to the head unit.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby zummuz » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:24 pm

Your assumptions are correct. All 4 cameras outputs goes to AVM module which multiplex them or select one by one with that "camera button" under the Connect. The AVM module outputs composite video signal like the old rear view camera or even other chinese cameras.
Just look at AV.pdf from FSM to identify the right wires. On 24pins connector on the back of your Connect unit, lower right the last 4 pins are: + video in, GND video in, +6V, GND.
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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby elight » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:29 pm

Awesome, thanks for the info. Now I'm going to have to look seriously into replacing this thing. Does anyone have any recommendations for aftermarket head units that work well with the Rogue's various features (the camera, the steering wheel controls, and I supposed the USB/line-in jacks in the center console)?

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby zummuz » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:31 pm

Just look here:
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Rogue/2011/AV.pdf#page166
This one is just for the old single rear view camera but the inputs are the same.
You can output the AVM module on every monitor that accept composite video in.
You will even have the guiding lines accordingly to the steering wheel when in reverse because all these are made into AVM module.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby minibus4 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:51 pm

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_228 ... -ASWC.html
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^ This is what I used in mine and works without any problems. You can do whatever configuration you want for the the usb and AUX connections. IMO, the more oem/stock you can make the car look, the better.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby Plaz » Fri May 17, 2013 4:18 am

Hi,

I also am trying to install an aftermarket headunit with my nissan dualis(qashqai)

I have seen the rogue 2013 service manual and it is in fact has a around view module that sends an image to the nissan connect.

The problem is my connector has only 3 wires instead as mentioned above and also in the rogue service manual 4 wires - camera +- and 6v ground

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I also tried to run the RCA wires from aftermarket headunit into the two wires - white and black with silver - the other one is 6v.. But still no picture.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby Leo2005 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:34 am

zummuz wrote:Just look here:
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Rogue/2011/AV.pdf#page166
This one is just for the old single rear view camera but the inputs are the same.
You can output the AVM module on every monitor that accept composite video in.
You will even have the guiding lines accordingly to the steering wheel when in reverse because all these are made into AVM module.
Do all cameras have rca output like a rear 1? What about replacement avm module with a different one? I would have an idea of combining all cameras (if all have rca) into new module with single rca output. Think about connecting surveillance cameras when you connecting cameras to dvr and then you have only 1 video output in order to make them work with aftermarket unit. You could make them work as surveillance cameras if you install dvr.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby ImStricken06 » Fri May 17, 2013 7:16 am

Leo2005 wrote:Think about connecting surveillance cameras when you connecting cameras to dvr
yea but that security camera dvr has a MULTIPLEXER

WIKI: An electronic multiplexer makes it possible for several signals to share one device or resource

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby zummuz » Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 pm

All cameras have composite video output.
Everybody can check this by connecting to a LCD input.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby Plaz » Wed May 22, 2013 4:33 am

Good News ppl,

Got my after market ouku android rooted system working with my around view module/camera.

So yes it can be done

Only needed 3 wires that are on the right in picture above. (this is for dualis 2013 - Australian model - 2013 rogue service manual was complete different)

The white one is RCA + and the black one is RCA -
The pink one above is the switch for reverse and when you push the camera button so connect your after market switch to that - Its only 5v

That's it...! Can't believe it took me 3 weeks and a blown ECU fuse to find out. Nobody would help - Nissan - Car stereo shops - Internet.

So enjoy and I hope it has saved you time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A57SEbGwtPg

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby rdub2k4 » Wed May 22, 2013 6:40 am

very interesting my friend... wish I had the AVM so I could test it here in the states. Good job!

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby 2013 Rogue SV » Wed May 29, 2013 3:37 pm

So I have the factory camera. But I have an SV. If I add the camera button and tap into the pink wire, could I view the camera at any time by a push of the button?

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby zummuz » Wed May 29, 2013 11:25 pm

That camera button is only for AVM. It means 4 cameras connected to a control module. For a single camera it only have to be properly wired (12V, ground and signal) and your unit should know to accept input signal from camera when in reverse.
It's nothing magic, just pure science.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby cunninr2 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:28 pm

Plaz wrote:Good News ppl,

Got my after market ouku android rooted system working with my around view module/camera.

So yes it can be done

Only needed 3 wires that are on the right in picture above. (this is for dualis 2013 - Australian model - 2013 rogue service manual was complete different)

The white one is RCA + and the black one is RCA -
The pink one above is the switch for reverse and when you push the camera button so connect your after market switch to that - Its only 5v

That's it...! Can't believe it took me 3 weeks and a blown ECU fuse to find out. Nobody would help - Nissan - Car stereo shops - Internet.

So enjoy and I hope it has saved you time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A57SEbGwtPg

This is awesome. been looking to do the same thing . Do you think you could post the picture again. it is no longer avaialable

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby MissPretty » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:49 pm

So I hope I can get any help here. I have purchased and had installed an aftermarket unit. However when the guys who installed it got in there, they discovered that they needed a 24-pin adapter to make the AVM/backup camera function, as well as the Steering wheel controls. I would appreciate ANY and all info and how and what piece I need to make this work. I'm sick that I've bought all the pieces and stereo that I thought I would need and now that its installed cannot use the AV camera, backup camera, or steering wheel controls! Anything that could help the store that installed it.. Please help me.. please and thanks!

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby coolercity » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:09 am

Hi,

Did anyone figure out how to get the surround cameras to work on a aftermarket stereo? Looking to put in top of line pioneer or kenwood radio with backup cam inputs, but wants to keep the surround view functionality. Thanks!

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby MissPretty » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:54 pm

I have steering wheels and backup camera working, however I was told that the remaining cameras will only work with stock and cannot be retained. They tried and were unsuccessful.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby Rogue One » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:03 pm

Ok folks listen up. Currently NONE of the aftermarket head units available from name brand manufacturers support the around view system. NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH.

There is an after market no-name Chinese unit that apparently will support the multi camera input, and another member has installed it, and it seems to be working fine.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby frijolito » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:57 pm

The MXtron Android supports surround view with no issue.

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby coolercity » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:00 am

But
frijolito wrote:The MXtron Android supports surround view with no issue.
BUt from my understanding the mxtron does not support rogue that came with factory nav (because the harness is different). Do you know if this is true?

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby frijolito » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:00 pm

Very True, its only for Xtrails at the moment, not the US Rouge model with GPS..

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Re: Aftermarket stereo w/ Surround View

Postby frans » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:34 am

Anyone tried this product:

10-2-inch-1024-600-touchscreen-2013-2014-2015-nissan-qashqai-gps-radio-navigation-system-with-bluetooth-music-digital-tv-odb2-dvr-backup-camera-mirror-link-tpms-steering-wheel-control-s301074

from seicane com

(can't seem to post the direct url so just google it..)

They claim in the Q&A that 360° also work...


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