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So I received my polished AEM short-ram air intake today from optionsauto.com ($165 shipped).

I put it on once I got home from work and took 'er for a spin.... Wow. Definitely a noticeable difference. Car sounds deeper around 3k and up, throttle response is amazing, and 1st gear actually seems to have some get up to it now.

Whilist I had the old intake off I took the opportunity to spray some carb cleaner into the throttle body and wipe it out a bit. It was rather dirty and I'm sure that this brief cleaning contributed to the happy throttle.

Overall I am extremely pleased with the intake so far. It looks great under there, as well. I'd have got a pic tonight but it was dark before I was done with the installation, so I'll take one tomorrow. :)

It included everything necessary to put it on and fitment is great. Installation was rather simple.

Looking for an intake? Go with AEM.


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i put my aem intake on last night too... didnt know that they had polished for our cars...i was told is wasnt available for 240s but silver was... so i went with blue...and it kinda looks tacky when compared to the color of my car....o well im not goin for looks...yet... u can see pics in the 'intake and exhaust' post.

-Dan

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i have an injen short ram at first i felt the "response" but not to rain down on you guys paraid or anything but i think the whole thing is physcological...yes it does make a deeper sound but generating enough power so that you can feel a difference i don't think so...i think it's just the deep sound that makes you feel like your moivng faster when in all your moving like 0.0001X faster then before trust me i was in the same boat and i thought that i felt the same increase in power but after i got threw the whole sound of the take i realize that i was going just as fast as before...for the best increas in horespower with going all out for a turbo, get a JWT ecu (ranging from $575-$675 incereasing power by 21% http://www.optauto.com/webstor...=1189), intake, exhaust, and headers this will allow you to fell the difference in overall power gain

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I just installed an AEM CAI on my brother's prelude last week, definetly worth every penny. Quality, fitment, and power were all excellent.

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AEM kicks a$$! They just need to have more Nissan support. Like most after-market performance companies, they focus on the big sellers like Honda.

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Maine.... u get my reply about the heatshield? Hope it helped.

-Dan

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240sx2nr95 wrote:Maine.... u get my reply about the heatshield? Hope it helped.

-Dan


Yes... thank you very much! I checked out that website, and I might just order one. You can't beat the price!

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o yeah i know and the quality is pretty darn good, that thing wont lose its shape!!!

-Dan

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SilviaLuvr, i agree with you. don't get me wrong, i like intakes but on the strip, my car was faster with the stock airbox. maybe its just my car

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nope randybunctious the thing is the manufactures don't tell you that you need the throttle body upgrade and performance intake manifold for you to gain the true hp of your intake...think about intake=2.5"-3.0"throttle body= 2"intake manifold=2-2.5"

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Huh.... the throttle body on the KA is plenty HUGE! I can't conceive an N/A situation where it would benefit you to 'upgrade' the KA TB. The 300zx N/A guys swap in the KA TB to 'upgrade' theirs. I agree that intake alone is pretty pathetic, but it does help. That is multiplied exponentially once you upgrade further.

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im getting those two others done here fairly soon i hope...$$ comes in time so all my mods will come...in time...

-Dan

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SilviaLuvr wrote:intake=2.5"-3.0"throttle body= 2"intake manifold=2-2.5"


Ummm, the TB on my KA is 3" (about)!

It is larger in diameter than the intake tube.

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How much different can intake be? I mean really? They're freaking 2 foot long tubes with one curve for Crikey's sake. I have an Injen Short Ram and have experienced all of the characteristics you listed from your AEM. I think it just boils down to price when it comes to intake, the cheaper the better.

When you get into exhaust, you get a little more complex; crush bent vs. mandrel bent piping, fabrication, size, materials all contribute to the overall quality, sound and performance. This is also true to headers.

Injen, AEM, they're all the same. LoL.

Nick.

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yup.

-Dan

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Zebraead, you are pretty much right.... and I don't think anybody with a clue would argue that point.

I just don't like misinformation being strewn about. SilviaLuvr's theory on the TB needing an 'ugrade' is totally bogus, as are his figures on size. My inclination is that he got that theory from a Honda owner, for which it would be true. But not so on the KA.... AT ALL!

His theory has Dan all set to go out and waste money on something that wouldn't EVER need to be done to an N/A KA.

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Yup Maine is completely right. I owned an 85 300zxt before this car, and that was the big mod, even for the turbo guys. The TB was a bunch (not sure exactly maybe 10mm or so) bigger than the Z31.

I have also had all the same aspects when putting my K&N drop-in in and "swiss cheesing" the bottom of the airbox with a big-*** drill bit. I DEFINITLY felt a difference.

In total I paid 250 bucks for my intake and exhaust. It'll run just as hard as someone else with a short-ram and 500 dollar exhaust.

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o dont get me wrong, i know it doesnt need to be done at all on a NA KADE and yeah, the TB is PLENTY big enough for NA, but im eventually goin the turbo route and have been talkin with this shop about doin a custom T60 setup or something and he recommended slightly enlarging the TB and matching the IM to pull out all the safe hp that i could and this mod was one he highly recom. ...hes done two other 240s (both s13s, one KAE-T, one KADE-T) and he said that they did the work on the TB and IM after they had installed and run the turbo and it did make a noticeable diff...so yeah, im not doin it now...im stayin NA for now and probly will be for the next year.... suspension is next on my list.

-Danbtw...maineimport...thanks for lookin out for me and my precious $$....i cant afford to waste any of it... darn highschool budgets...

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Well thinks for the correction i just thought that whenever you are dealing with anything that deals with air flow or the flow of an exhaust for that matter then you will need to adjust everything accordenly...ie custom exhaust...i thought that it was all the same...and what difference does it make if it's an N/A or not???

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240sx2nr95 wrote:o dont get me wrong, i know it doesnt need to be done at all on a NA KADE and yeah, the TB is PLENTY big enough for NA, but im eventually goin the turbo route and have been talkin with this shop about doin a custom T60 setup or something and he recommended slightly enlarging the TB and matching the IM to pull out all the safe hp that i could and this mod was one he highly recom. ...hes done two other 240s (both s13s, one KAE-T, one KADE-T) and he said that they did the work on the TB and IM after they had installed and run the turbo and it did make a noticeable diff...so yeah, im not doin it now...im stayin NA for now and probly will be for the next year.... suspension is next on my list.

-Danbtw...maineimport...thanks for lookin out for me and my precious $$....i cant afford to waste any of it... darn highschool budgets...


I hear ya man!

There was a group buy on the old 240sx.org that did work on the KA TB. I believe they bored it out by a few mm. They replaced the butterfly valve with a larger one to fit the new internal diameter. It also included a polish. It can't recall exactly how much it was, but it was less than $200. Only prolem is that you're without a vehicle untill they ship it back. This would be, at least, a couple weeks.

When you go turbo I think this would make a bit of a difference. You still have the same enormous TB, but with a polished and slightly larger diameter interior.

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BTW....

don't knock that high school budget! I had more expendable income back then. Now the bills get most of my cash flow!

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o yeah, i guess i do need to give it a lil more credit!!! and yeah the old group buy if i can remember right was bored out to 63.5mm at the butterfly valve and final intake diam. was i think 70mm and then polished, all that with a custom aluminum butterfly valve.. for $100 shipped +core charge....thats the best i can remember.

-Dan

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SilviaLuvr wrote:Well thinks for the correction i just thought that whenever you are dealing with anything that deals with air flow or the flow of an exhaust for that matter then you will need to adjust everything accordenly...ie custom exhaust...i thought that it was all the same...and what difference does it make if it's an N/A or not???


Well, in theory that is right. But with the KA engine, the throttle body is already larger than the intake pipe. The factory intake has several restrictive bends, and it narrows as it spans the radiator. When you replace the factory pipe with a larger, straighter, less restrictive pipe then you open up the airflow. But on THIS engine, the TB is already larger than the intake.... so it is not going to be restrictive at all. With a 1.8l Honda that has a 2" TB, then yes...you would be right, it should be upgraded.

Now in regard to it being N/A or boosted:

On an N/A KA... there will never be enough airflow through the intake to require an upgrade. This is simply because you are 'sucking' air through it. It is more than adequate. Once you start forcing air (boosting) through the TB, then it stands to reason that it could benefit from an upgrade.

As for the exhaust:

N/A or boosted makes a HUGE difference in the diameter of pipes you should use. If you throw 3" pipes all the way from the header to the muffler on an N/A 4cyl, you will lose gobs of torque. Some chaulk this up to back pressure.... it is a result of turbulence and the loss of scavenger effect and vaccum. (somethig like that anyway)

In the end, you should build everything to match. The theory of a 'chain is only as strong as its weakest link' applies. But I assure you, that weakest link isn't the TB.

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240sx2nr95 wrote:yeah the old group buy if i can remember right was bored out to 63.5mm at the butterfly valve and final intake diam. was i think 70mm and then polished, all that with a custom aluminum butterfly valve.. for $100 shipped +core charge....thats the best i can remember.

-Dan


Yup... that sounds about right.

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OIC again thanx for that clarfication this maybe a stupid question but is the TB on the KADE the same size as the KAE i ask this because i have a KAE...i do know that the IM is, correct me if im wrong, upside down or something like that


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