I'm goin to some store around here plz let me know know which one's best performance,looks, and all around thanks. Take Care!
-Roberto
AEM or OBX Short Ram Intake!?
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doctorj240
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i don't really see how an intake can be a low quality item. it is just a pipe with a filter on it. i guess it can be tuned to be shorter or longer for higher rpm hp or lower rpm torque but the most hp you are going to make from an intake is going to be maybe 4 or 5. don't spend 300 on any intake like i did, it was definitely not worth it. it sounds cool but sound does not equal performance. just make sure you get an intake with a good filter like the apexi or k&n. that will probably make the biggest difference performancewise.
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MaineExport
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ahh an intake is an intake, is the they are the same diameter tubing then it doesnt matter what the hell brand it is. Like doctor said its a tube and a filter. and all that heat resistanet piping from aem isa jus a way to get you to dumb 250 bucks in a intake, you can jus goto a auto store and buy some heat resistant wrap.But anway get a cold air intake not shortram, beter performnace.
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MaineExport
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91nis240 wrote:ahh an intake is an intake, is the they are the same diameter tubing then it doesnt matter what the hell brand it is. Like doctor said its a tube and a filter. and all that heat resistanet piping from aem isa jus a way to get you to dumb 250 bucks in a intake, you can jus goto a auto store and buy some heat resistant wrap.But anway get a cold air intake not shortram, beter performnace.
Maybe you could spend some of the money you saved on some english lessons. I couldn't make heads nor tails out of that post.(not that I'm much better
) In general, an intake is an intake. However, some do not include the MAFS adaptor, and nipples for the breather hoses. Some filters are of lesser quality. Also, since the tube spans the width of the radiator, it certainly can't hurt to have the added heat protection. I would also take issue with your opinion regarding, "beter performnance" with a CAI vs. short ram. They both have positive and negative attributes. The CAI extnsion doubles the volume of air that has to be 'sucked' into the TB, thus creating more resistance. And no one should pay $250 for an AEM. They can be found from $150, up to $200 absolute tops. Anyone who assumes an intake is an intake... exhaust is exhaust... blah blah blah.... is setting themselves up for dissapointment in the end. Yes, you can jerry rig your car, but some of the Home Depot mods will haunt you in the long run.why are home depot mods bad? I remove my resonator and i plan on running some dryer hose down by my fog lights, and getting a k&n filter. $ is an issue for me, and i can do this for less than $10 (someone is selling me their K&N for $5). So i will gain some power, maybe 1 or 2 less than w/ a $300 intake but still, what are the negatives of what I'm doing?
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MaineExport
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Bbill528 wrote:why are home depot mods bad? I remove my resonator and i plan on running some dryer hose down by my fog lights, and getting a k&n filter. $ is an issue for me, and i can do this for less than $10 (someone is selling me their K&N for $5). So i will gain some power, maybe 1 or 2 less than w/ a $300 intake but still, what are the negatives of what I'm doing?
I'm not saing it's 'BAD', but companies like Injen and AEM spend thousands of dollars in research and development. It stands to reason that their products would reflect this effort, resulting in a product that is properly designed and built for the specific application. They are usually backed up by a warantee.
If you 'build' your own intake, you run an increased risk of future problems. Suppose you have a minor, unnoticable leak. After a while enough contaminants can seriously hurt your engine. Also, once you start building your engine, you are putting greater stress on parts that were not designed to handle it.
Granted, an intake is not a very BIG deal. But for my money, I'd rather have the piece of mind in knowing that it was properly designed and manufactered using the best materials for the price. And, as I continue to mod my car, I know that along the way I've replace most of the less-efficient stock parts with better after-market solutions.
In my mind, if you can't afford to do it right.... don't do it. This is especially true if it's your daily driver. The last thing you want to do is screw up your ride to work. BTW... don't use dryer hose... it tears up easily.... get some 3" diameter vaccum hose or something stronger. If you can make it work for cheap, and you don't have to worry about hurting our car.... do it.
Just by taking off my resonator i noticed a little difference. Yeah I am gonna get some stronger stuff, I just wasn't sure what it was called. And i'm gonna cut a small hole in it so it doesn't create a vaccuum and possibly suck water in. All i'm doing is replacing the stock filter, and hooking up a hose to the Y pipe so it's not really that far from stock. And later down the line when the money comes my way an intake will be in the plans. I'm not doing anything extensive to my engine, it's all stock now, maybe exhaust in near future, but that's it. So I'm not stressing it.
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sil80drifter
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Uhh...did i not post a thing like a week ago, about how I made an intake for 50 bucks? I think I did, or else it was someone else who is driving my car with my intake...search for intake, and the post that says "intake baby" in the title is it. I consider it half cold air, because there is a routed pipe from the grilled hole in the bumper that slams cold air into the K&N type air filter (the filter with the MAF adaptor was 15 bucks form ebay, real good quality). The piping is 2.5 inch, most people will agree that for the KA NA engine, which should't (mostly in stock form) be running with an exhaust over 2.5 inches in diameter, shouldn't have an intake tube width over 2.5 inches; there is simply no point. Just look at my post and see if you liek what I did. I can give you very simple instructions to what I think is a fool proof DIY AI, which looks good and performs just as well. Takes about an hour of work (if your battery is already in the trunk) plus the time of the paint (if you paint your tybes) and the cold solder to dry. Start on Sat, finish on Sun, drive on Mon 
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honda_eater
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im with sil80 on this one cuz the difference btw a homeade and a $250 intake system is at MOST 1-2 hp and if you make yours good than there is no difference. So rather than stuffing $200+ in Injen's thong, I think ill make my own equivalent intake and put the money towards leather seats or somethin'
hope you have a 30,000 dollar mandrel pipe bending machine there guys.
seriously, I dont know what the obsession is with CAI systems....
think about it, your getting cooler air(good), but where does it go? into a turbo(sometimes), and into your coolant line plumbed throttle body(read: HOT.), this will heat that cool air right back up...
I say just get a free flowing system and be done with it. plus, CAI are usually situated where airflow TO the filter sucks anyway, but water gets in there very nicely.
anyways, this is just some thoughts. if you want to save money, buy the AEM shortram, or a blitZ suspower intake or something, not the CAI....and dont build it yourself unless you know what your doing.
-chet
seriously, I dont know what the obsession is with CAI systems....
think about it, your getting cooler air(good), but where does it go? into a turbo(sometimes), and into your coolant line plumbed throttle body(read: HOT.), this will heat that cool air right back up...
I say just get a free flowing system and be done with it. plus, CAI are usually situated where airflow TO the filter sucks anyway, but water gets in there very nicely.
anyways, this is just some thoughts. if you want to save money, buy the AEM shortram, or a blitZ suspower intake or something, not the CAI....and dont build it yourself unless you know what your doing.
-chet
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MaineExport
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Exar-Kun wrote:and dont build it yourself unless you know what your doing.
-chet
I agree with your post entirely chet.... I think sil80drifetr is the ONLY home made intake that I have seen that looks like it is as good as an after-market setup. He did an excellent job, and fabricated a system that seems like it should work well. If anybody wants to build their own (I still don't recommend it) try what sil80 did... at least that shortens the intake.. and gets some 'cooler' air.