Advanced Suspension Forum?

[Exar-Kun]

Do you guys think yoiu'd use an advanced suspension forum? such as tuning more elaborate setups, etc? or would it take away from the current forum...lead to double posting, etc.

Ideally, it'd be a forums talking about more advanced things, like setups for different track conditions, class specifications for IMSA, SCCA, etc and what to adjust for those classes, driving techniques, etc...

gimme some feedback!-chetCreate a Advanced suspension forum?

[Nismo_Freak]

So far me and Chet are pushin for this forum to get estabolished and we'd like to hear some feedback from you guys.

I think it'd be a more fitting place for people to discuss items like suspension alterations & tuning theory, getting into your local and regional road racing and circuit racing events, getting active into Auto-X. I think it would be an excellent tool for people who are interested in huggin corners and dodgin cones to really get into the nitty gritty.

I'm all for it!

[UncleBen]

The only reason (as of right now) that I would like such a forum is because I could just browse, read, and learn. I know nothing about springs rates, etc. So I dont really care, heh.

[ace135cc]

The only reason (as of right now) that I would like such a forum is because I could just browse, read, and learn. I know nothing about springs rates, etc. So I dont really care, heh.

exactly what he said!!

[GoofyATX240]

I would love an advanced forum for suspension. I especially love reading about more advanced suspension setups and so on. So I'd be all for it.

[Jesda]

Count me in!

[C-Kwik]

I think it would be rather redundant. This forum doesn't get so many new poests that it's hard to keep up with and I think it will be hard to determine what is advanced or not. Most of the information seems to run together anyways.

[daniel]

i dont think there is enough people with actual real world experience in order to go ahead and have a forum like this with quality information.

jmho..i would do it then moderate it heavily if i were to implement such a forum.

[silkk]

i'm down!

[Dori Dori]

I don't think it would work...but I'm all for trying it out!

I agree that you mods will have your work cut out.

[SeVa-S13]

I couldn't contribute a freaking thing to that forum, but I would be very interested in learning from any stickies (!) that would hopefuly be made in it, along with some good discussions.

As an alternative to dividing an already small forum, you could mark certain "Advanced" threads with, say an asterisk, denoting a 'tard-free zone. In such threads, there would be no random queries as to how to convert to 9 lug or how many coils to cut off stock springs to achieve optimum pwnage.

[rico05]

An advanced forum would be nice, but it would mean a lot more work for the mods. I think a lot of people could benefit from expert advice on suspension setups, but we already have that in the normal forum. I just think that it would be more work for the mods to make sure that appropriate threads go in the right forum.

[crzycav86]

I think it would be rather redundant. This forum doesn't get so many new poests that it's hard to keep up with and I think it will be hard to determine what is advanced or not. Most of the information seems to run together anyways.

I'm with this guy. I don't really see why it's necessary to have another one when this suspension forum isn't really all that active. There was a thread in the general section in which a member asked why there wasn't a racing forum(dealing with road racing, autox, etc..) I suppose you could discuss various advanced tuning topics in a forum like that.. but what do I know..

[Exar-Kun]

More than you think -chet

[Def]

I think the idea rocks. I share the same concern as alot of previous posters on the activity level and "caliber" of the material.

Instead of creating ANOTHER suspension forum that revolves around extreme use of the suspensions on our Nissans, why not just go straight to the cow for the milk and create a forum discussing all things having to do with Road Racing/Autocross/HPDEs? Suspension, car prep, first time HPDE/autocrosser advice, engine tuning for road course/autocross use etc. etc. could all be discussed. I think this has much more of a chance of being an active and vibrant forum rather than splintering an already "sleepy" suspension forum.

Most boards I frequent have a section like this, and honestly, I wish NICO had one as well...

My 2 cents.

[MaineExport]

I think the idea is cool... but it would tend to perpetuate the elitist attitude that seems to poke its ugly head out now and again in some of the more technical forums. People who have (or THINK they have) a proficient knowledge of a certain subject seem to get a condescending attitude and a chip on their shoulder. It would take a serious effort by some of our more enlightened mods to dissuade such behavior and make the forum more welcoming to people who want to LEARN. Some people may ask a "stupid" question and get chased off by overzealous "know-it-alls" who wish to flaunt their supposed intellectual superiority (Lord only knows where that personality flaw originates from, but for some reason internet forums are a breeding ground for such unreasonable behavior)

[dr!ft]

Hey, think of it this way: an Advanced Suspension forum would be chock full o' interesting knowledge for us Nico-nauts to devour. Our knowledge would know no bounds. So, if knowledge is power, we would become so powerful, the world would bow at our every command...

[C-Kwik]

I think there is a such thing as having too much of a good thing. Making too many forums with little activity can make it just as hard to keep track of it as making too few forums with too much activity. I forget to check a few of the forums that have too little activity. I think instead of necessarily trying to create forums to create discussion topics, it would be more reasonable to create forums to deal with a a large amount of specific types of topics. From my observations, I haven't seen an overwhelming or significant number of technical suspension set-ups.

[Exar-Kun]

good point...I do like the idea of a "track" forum possibly....-chet

[Def]

So when can I expect my royalty checks to start pouring in for my idea???

I suppose I can take compensation in the form of store credit at NICO sponsors.

[Exar-Kun]

"I suppose I can take compensation in the form of store credit at NICO sponsors. "

dude, I dont even get that...nor do any mods...:/No discounts, No special deals....the sponsors pay to keep the site running..that's really about it. without them, greg(rex used to) has to foot the bill himself, privately..and we use a LOT of bandwidth.-chet

[Def]

Guess I should fine tune my Internet Sarcasm Emphasiz0r.

I'm just messing with ya chet, I know no one gets discounts and definitely wouldn't expect one for a suggestion. I'm all for furthering the community, and that's why I made the suggestion I did. Plus that I inevitably really like the Track forum and the people within it on any forum I go to.

[Ceptos]

as far as cars go, suspension is all i think about. i would like a forum section about advanced suspension topics, tho im not sure how much it would get used. if there are other people who find it entertaining to talk about unsprung weight transfer or roll center, then the forum could be interesting. i also do not see much talk about low level competition like SCCA, so that might be a plus.

im soaking up as much info as i can from books and other sources, i find it interesting that information found in most of the books can be applied almost directly to the 240, being a nice chassis to work from. there are plenty of topics of conversation that could fill the forum, just a matter of people to start them.

a driver's forum might be popular, and grouping advanced suspension topics with driving techniques and understanding just what is going on undernieth of you is a good idea.

[ruf-jason]

I think a more specific track (not drift) forum or similar is over due, I would live there and the RB section cause all I care about using my S13 for is embarrassing 'vettes, porsches, rx's...

[C-Kwik]

Well I'm thinking it might be as utilized less than the forced induction forum. While there is great interest in turbos, it seems to just be discussed elsewhere a lot more.

[Def]

In my experience, track forums tend to be pretty active places once a few guys into that get attracted to the board.

While there does seem to be a startling number of 240SX owners that are unwilling to take a fast corner with the rear tires at a slip angle of less than 20 degrees, I still think a track/HPDE/autocross forum has a chance.

[Exar-Kun]

"While there does seem to be a startling number of 240SX owners that are unwilling to take a fast corner with the rear tires at a slip angle of less than 20 degrees, I still think a track/HPDE/autocross forum has a chance."

or overly stretched tires......I agree.-chet

[crzycav86]

Why doesn't someone start an interesting track-suspension thread in which people can discuss that stuff in this forum? I'd be interested, but that's a little out of my league.

[Def]

or overly stretched tires......I agree.-chet

Touche!



-Jacob

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