Advanced KA24de Guys, problem with timing

[Atown 240]

Aight, here's the story. I pulled my motor to re-seal everything and swap my head gasket. I've got stock s13 cams and no altercations done to my timing.

I put my motor all back together and put it in. Installed everythign and got her to fire up. I tried to set timing but in order for my timing to be at 20* i have to have the dizzy clocked all the way to one side.

So i figured, my timing has skipped some how and i was off a tooth. Well i pulled my oil pan, front cover, etc and re-set all my timing. I made marks as to where everything needed to line up somewhere on the front of the motor. All the chains and everything lined up.

Put it all back together... Same problem'So i pulled off my upper front cover and valve cover. Set the motor to 20* and my marks all line up again. I've taken pictures so maybe someone can notice something im' not. I'm not retardeed and i'm pretty damn good w/ cars but this has got my completly f'd up. I'm trying to make a drift day this weekend so i'm trying to get this done. I just boosted my motor and i've yet to drive it around and it's killling me lol.

My set-up

jgs kitEnthalpy tuned for 740's, z32, t3, my built block and 93octaneSAFC but everything is zero'd outBlow thru z32.

No codes in the ECU. I've taken the dizzy out and re-installed it 20 times. I even installed it w/ the valve cover off to make sure the line/dot line up. And same problem

Here are the pix

PLEASE HELP ME!!!! hah

[Future_gohan]

did you unplug the tps when your setting the timing? Your suppose to..

[sebazztard]

i belive your crank pully's last notch is where you line it up, not where you have it in the pic. after that everything else looks right and your dizzy should be perfect if you guide it in with the notch on top of the dizzy. of course you can always tell by the angle of the rotor cap, it should be facing directly at your number 1 on your dist cap....everything has grooves its pretty straight forward.

[Atown 240]

Yes, i unplugged it, warmed it up the whole 9. I'm not new to 240's and i know my s***. This just has me completly f'd up cause everything is how it should be.

And as far as i know, it's gotta be set to 20* btdc which is the 2nd to left mark

[sebazztard]

the mark you are on is top dead center, the last mark is 20 before

[TimTurboZ]

Well you set the motor @ 0 degrees, and make sure the intake valves are next to open. The line up dizzy to #1. Should be close to correct timing (I was dead on 20btdc) after you start it then use a timing light.

[sebazztard]

reference: http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/timing101.htm

this is the same diagram i used when i had to go through resetting my diz timing.

[Atown 240]

FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS CAR FOR 3 WEEKS AND IT'S BECAUSE I KEPT THINKING THE 2ND MARK WAS 20*

I'M SO F'NING PISSED RIGHT NOW AND I FEEL LIKE A COMPLETE NOOB! WOW WTF. I'M GONIG TO GO BANG MY HEAD INTO A WALL.

[sebazztard]

ha its all good bro, its still semi fresh in memory from when i had to redo 3 ka's and by the 3rd time i didnt even bother making any timing marks, its easier just to find the last notch and slide the dizzy in with the right mark on top. cake work in the end. hope it helps out, your diz should be straight in the center and you should be good to go.

[Atown 240]

U dont understand lol. I built my motor when i was 16 w/ no experience. I'm now 21 and i've ripped my motor apart numerous times. I'm a tech for Mercedes Benz. How the hell do i make such a stupid mistake and it took me 3 weeks to realize it!!!

[sebazztard]

s*** happens lol. trust me i understand ive been playing with these ka's for 6 years, thats why im moving on to rb, they just dont do it for me anymore. gl with your car tho, hope it all works out.

[Atown 240]

haha, yeah. I just spend like 5k on my turbo set-up and i've yet to feel boost. It's been almost 2 months since i finsihed. This was hanging me up.

[Future_gohan]

lol I didn't really look at the pictures..I see that now. don't worry, I spent three days trying to get my 240sx running thought my 550s were bad thought the ecu was bad and i just wired my maf up wrong lol

[Atown 240]

I spent 3 weeks only to find out nothing was wrong and im' just retarded. Which included pulling my oil pan/front cover which sux balls

[Future_gohan]

Well..i went threw 7 boxes of spark plugs, 2 oil changes and 5 gallons of gas.. lmao it sucks..but we learn from our mistakes, it makes us human. :]

[sebazztard]

damn^ lol

[Atown 240]

wat was ur problem?

[Atown 240]

wow, so i just got done fixing my timing

It's fast... that is all

[AZ89two4Tsx]

I do not care if fish get thirsty. Nor do I want to take the dumb test.

[sebazztard]

wow, so i just got done fixing my timing

It's fast... that is all

nice.. post up some vids

[MikeZenki]

I just did the head on mine and had the same prob, set it to tdc and timing was off so i just twisted the distr a couple teeth and its fine now..AND the oil pump is a bit** to get to

[MikeZenki]

oh and the top chain guide never stays on, but good thing theres fifty 240 s at junkyards. and for parts theres my two favorite words SPECIAL ORDER