Adam From Afterdark!!!!!

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DrftDmn
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I know this has been posted a few times but I do need to get ahold of him. I have ordered a harness through him and he said it would be here 2 weeks ago, My customer has since taken all of his business else were and has called the better business agency. My business is suffering horribley and The only way the customer will back off is if he gets his harness. I have done alot of work to this gentlemens car and The harness and tuning were the last things. Someone help me out , Adam wont return any calls or answer and E-mails, My customer has paid for the harness and He has a car he has invested 12K into and cant drive. HELP ME OUT ... Not trying to Flame Afterdark or Adam , He was very knowlegable and curtious. Maybe something big came up with him , I just need to know so I can get my good name in my community back.


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ouch dude :(

I hate to tell you this, but in my honest opinion, I think you should go ahead and order a new harness from Enjuku or Phase 2 and then do the wiring again through another company. People here are seriously having doubts about the current outlook of Adam's business and you are only helping to confirm them. I can also help you with the wiring if necessary, I have done it myself and in all reality, it is not that difficult to do.

Hope everything works out for you.

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Did you join the fraud complaint with the FBI like the rest of us?

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See the main problem here is that my customer/and I will not spend the extra money to get another KA and SR harness not to mention paying to have someone splice it again. Alot of people are all for the S13-S13 swap but I have a S14-S14 swap and cant find knowlegable people on that . The reason I went to AfterDark instead of any other was his reply time. I was needing this harness about a month ago and e-mailed about 5 companies on the harness and Heavy Throttle was going to take 6-7 weeks to complete it and Phase2 Quoted me 400.00$ to do it , I figured that they were asking to much and Adam said 200.0 and it would be done in 3 days after her got it to him. Well Im pretty pissed and I have seen his name on this forum and figured he would see this. Im losing so much business and time with this B@#LSH%T.

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Its not wise to take a job if you know you cant do all the work and are forced to subcontract to get it done. Especially when you have never even met the person you are hiring to do it in real life. If i were you id pull out the S14 usdm factory service manual, and S14 jdm fsm and buy new harnesses and get to work. Youre gonna lose money buying those harnesses but thats your problem. Look on the bright side when you figure out how to do the harnesses you can legitimately install s14-s14 conversions.

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JJ240 wrote:Its not wise to take a job if you know you cant do all the work and are forced to subcontract to get it done. Especially when you have never even met the person you are hiring to do it in real life. If i were you id pull out the S14 usdm factory service manual, and S14 jdm fsm and buy new harnesses and get to work. Youre gonna lose money buying those harnesses but thats your problem. Look on the bright side when you figure out how to do the harnesses you can legitimately install s14-s14 conversions.


Couldnt have said it better myself. In my opinion you need to bite the bullet and take this one up the ***. IF I were in teh same situation I would tell you...hey that was YOUR **** up..YOU chose to go through him. I think you should be paying to fix the problem and worry about the lost money later

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while I don't think it is entirely your fault like these two guys do, I still feel that it *is* your responsibility to take the cost of the two new harnesses up the butt and subcontract to a better company. Phase 2 is highly regarded around here (I have ordered almost 10k worth of stuff from them myself) so I would go with them. If you want your business to go right, sometimes you have to know when to wait on a product, and when you have to absorb a cost to deliver...

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Well thanks to those that helped , and to those who told me how to run my business thanks for the advice.... I am going to make sure this gentlemen gets his harness. I told him that he will get his harness and I would throw in the intercooler piping for free, He did not seem happy. As for not being legit when it comes to doing jobs , you have no clue how many companies out there subcontract work. I have also heard good things about Adam and after dark on Zilvia.Net . Like I said before Nobody else would get back to me. This was the customers choice as well , He didnt want to wait the time for Heavy Throttle (whch I said to go with)

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So if it was the customer's call to go with AfterDark because he didn't want to wait for HT, why is he chewing you out and filing complaints with the BBB against you?

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I have no clue, He has spent alot of money and I think hes freaking out at the fact that his car isnt running. I dont blame him one bit but I cant have this one problem tuning my business into S#$T

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just a little info, Adam dosn't know **** about how to wire up a car, he has to ask everybody else how to do it. Shoulda sent it to sombody who's done it before (did you even ask him if he had any experience doing that?)

Call Kenjuku and talk to him, he could more than likely set you up. If your in FL you could have gotten in back in a hurry I'm sure. Adam isnt' too well known for getting ANYTHING back to ANYBODY in ANY timeframe. He may have been quick to respond to Email, but that's only because he wasn't doing anything else around the shop to help out.

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yeah man do a little search for afterdark on this board (and even other 240 ones), and you'll quickly learn why most people feel the way they do about him....

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Keep this off boards... the powers that be don't like us commenting on these issues if we haven't done business with the company (which I have so I'm allowed :) ), so the conversations should be kept off the site.

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Man that sucks. I heard so many stories about after dark.

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If I were you.

Bite the bullet, get some replacement harnesses, then join the ongoing legal proceedings against Adam. Maybe in the end you will get your money back for the harnesses (or the harnesses, in which case you can sell them).

But at least you won't have the BBB and/or law enforcement after you. Then explain to your customer EXACTLY what happened. That Adam is apparently screwing most of his customers over. Do whatever you must to at least get an average opinion of you and your operation in that customers eyes. Bad word of mouth will spread 5x as fast as good word of mouth.

All things considered though, at least you are trying to get the situation resolved for your customer. I know of other companies that wouldn't even do that.

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maineimport wrote:Keep this off boards... the powers that be don't like us commenting on these issues if we haven't done business with the company (which I have so I'm allowed :) ), so the conversations should be kept off the site.


Okay, I guess I will add my two cents. Maine, I know why you are saying this. This is not toward you. More to the Mods. I dont mean to offend. I have to disagree strongly with the above statement.

This is the reason this site is here. To help Nissan enthusiast (no I can't spell). This is the place to share information. This is the best place to have post like this. If a company is screwing people over that deals with our members, I think we should hear all the details, right here on NICO!

The deal with Daunt sucks a big one. I always liked Daunt. He helped alot of people out on here. Provided a lot of good information. I hope he can get his buisness together. I pass no judgment on Afterdark, because like Maine said, I have done no buisness wtih them.

DrftDmn, I hate to hear your misfortune. I hope you will do what is needed to keep your buisness a good one.

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Jester, Maine was simply saying that people who have not done business with a company should not post. This has happened a lot in the past were people get to bashing a company without having done any business with them. This makes a thread confusing and the facts get skewed. At least thats my take on this rule.

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Jester and Skwerel-Yes, people who are not customers or not involved with this issue have no business commenting on what is going on. People come out of the woodwork to defend a guy they don’t know or have never done business and thrust this board into a big war. And this bickering and fighting never stops.

DriftDmn-Do what Moving Violation said, give Enjuku a call. I have done business with these guys. I had a situation where they shipped the wrong part and I was in a lurch to get my suspension in. I called them back and with in 10min they apologized to me, empathized with my situation and made the error right. They scheduled the pick of the wrong part and overnighted the right part with no cost to me. They even offered to call the shop doing the work for me. They are a real stand up crew and I will always suggest people to do business with them.

bud

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I see what you are saying, but as of lately post have been getting locked pretty quickly, concerning this matter.

If they get locked they are gone in a day and no one knows, whats going on. I totally agree that posters should not bash a company they know nothing about.

A very sad situation, indeed.

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The locked posts have NOT gone anywhere. They're still there, and the big red button is there as well.

Actually, JESTER, you're right about NICO being a clearinghouse for info on companies that do biz with our members. But it really doesn't MATTER that anyone else find out what's gone on, because the company no longer exists. So beat the dead horse if you will, but you're wasting your energy.

We will be issuing a formal announcement on AD in the very near future to assist all those who have lost $$ in contacting the proper authorities.

Until then, the rule remains - No posting here unless you are a current or past customer. Period. End of discussion.

Carry on.

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Man I wish Adam didn't make it through with the kidney stone problem so nobody would be going through this thing right now. I know its a little bit crude, but I wouldn't be out of almost 3g if that had happened.

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AZhitman wrote:The locked posts have NOT gone anywhere. They're still there, and the big red button is there as well.

Actually, JESTER, you're right about NICO being a clearinghouse for info on companies that do biz with our members. But it really doesn't MATTER that anyone else find out what's gone on, because the company no longer exists. So beat the dead horse if you will, but you're wasting your energy.


Cold_Zero, i was typing that last one when you posted, I hadn't read yours.

AZ, I am aware of the red button. I have actually used it before. Amazing as that may seem. I like most members dont go do searches every day or two to see if we missed an important piece of information, with a company we may or are doing buisness with. We use it for those little question that piss all the car gods off, like turbo kits,Nitrous, what motor oil I should run. :D

And I am not beating a dead horse. I am not beating any horses. I don't like horses. I don't trust them. Some other may be.

I was just replying to a statement that this doesn't need to be on the message boards. I totally disagree with that. If you feel other wise, then I apologize. But this is where the info needs to be more than any other. That is all I was pointing out. I dont like to hear people bashing companies they know nothing about, but I want to hear about companies that are not doing as promised and/or ripping people off.

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y3llows14 wrote:Man I wish Adam didn't make it through with the kidney stone problem so nobody would be going through this thing right now. I know its a little bit crude, but I wouldn't be out of almost 3g if that had happened.


Man... that's not cool. I know you're out some serious cash and I totally sympathize wih your situation... but to wish a man's death is just BAD!! The nature of business that I have done with Adam is on the opposite end as most of you guys... but he's not a bad person. He is young, ambitious, and made mistakes. Unfortunately, he didn't chose the best way to resolve these issues.

I genuinely hope that you guys get your money back, and I also hope that it is a solution that makes all parties happy.

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Not cool??? That's an understatement. Anyway, I am shutting up before I piss everyone off and get tossed or something.

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Rock on jester horses are evil and thats just the bottom line.

DrftDmn
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I for one happen to like horses. I used to help my family train them so i would never beat them , Well I cancelled my credit card payment and I do believe I will get my money back from that at least. I will give the customer his money back from that and then call Enjuku ( im from Florida) They never did get back to me on phone or E-mails before. Hopefully they will now.

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Wow yet another afterdark tuning bashing thread...this is what the 654981650987465198988 to the 54987465198987651987th power now. Jesus.

There is no point on posting your complaints like this ON A PUBLIC FORUM. It will accomplish nothing. Address your complaints to him, not to us.

DrftDmn
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Man I see you havent lost anything to afterdark , Why dont you back off and let the people that have lost money and time try and get things figured out. You would think that people would want to help fellow Nissan owners out.

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Zero, take a time-out brotha. ;)

JESTER, keep in mind that the company is history, and there's no longer a need to "warn" anyone of doing biz with them.

'Nuff said?

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Get my e-mail Greg?


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