AC noise after Serpentine Belt replacement?

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dreamydreamer
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Hey guys
I have a Nissan Rogue 2009 that I took in for serpentine belt replacement since it started to show cracks. However after the replacement on my drive back, I noticed that there is a loud screeching noise coming from under the hood when I turn on the AC.

I took the car back to the shop and the mechanic checked everything and says that the installation was fine and that my AC compressor needs replacement and would cost more than $1000. Other than the noise, the AC is still functioning.

What bugs me the most is that my car did not have any problem before the replacement. Is the mechanic trying to rip me off or is that a common occurrence?


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welcome to the forum!! :)

YOUR BELT COULD BE TOO TIGHT, OR TOO LOOSE. or its simply oily from dirty hands and is squeaking/slipping as you put strain on it all.

i would call back and stress your anger to the manager/owner of your shop.

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Yeah the belt is slipping.... And the mechanic is trying to rob you by telling you that. Its yourjob compressor

dreamydreamer
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Thanks guys. I actually went back to the shop and the manager himself replaced the serpentine belt again. But the noise was still there. It almost sound like a bird chirping initially, then becomes a really loud persistent squeaking sound. He insisted that the AC compressor needs replacement.

I went to Pep Boys today, and they checked that the belt installed is the right one, and told me that it might be the pulley/tensioner since the AC is still functional.

Now I feel really confused. Maybe I need to get a third opinion? Can the looseness of the belt be adjusted?

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dreamydreamer wrote:Thanks guys. I actually went back to the shop and the manager himself replaced the serpentine belt again. But the noise was still there. It almost sound like a bird chirping initially, then becomes a really loud persistent squeaking sound. He insisted that the AC compressor needs replacement.

I went to Pep Boys today, and they checked that the belt installed is the right one, and told me that it might be the pulley/tensioner since the AC is still functional.

Now I feel really confused. Maybe I need to get a third opinion? Can the looseness of the belt be adjusted?
It is possible that its the pulley. That can happen if the belt is too tight i believe. Im stricken can correct me if im wrong.

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Check the tensioner and look at the indicator, it will show you if the belt is too tight or too loose. When I changed by belt, I went to the local auto parts store and picked up a Dayco belt. It was the correct part for the Rogue but it is 3MM shorter than the Nissan OEM belt. Check to see if it is an aftermarket belt. If it is then it is too short and the tensioner is at the extreme tight end if indicator. When I went to Nissan and got the OEM belt it fit on without any issues and the tensioner indicator was right in the middle.
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dave08902
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The belt that I brought was a Dayco belt from Pep Boys. I am positive that belt is too short.

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In the picture the Nissan belt has a Metric part # of 6pk1808



Specifications from Dayco's website for the aftermarket Nissan Belt

Backside Material Rubber
Compound EPDM, Aramid Reinforced
Effective Length (in) 71.06
Metric Part 6PK1805
No of Ribs 6
Rib Depth Standard
Rib Profile W Profile
Thickness .169
Top Width .82


The Dayco and all aftermarket belts have a Metric part # of 6pk1805

The 1805 is the total length in MM. The aftermarket belts are 3mm too short which will make the belt too tight and you need to force on the aftermarket belt. This will cause the tensioner indicator to show it is out of limits on the tight end. The indicator is located between the alternator and the engine support and you need to look down between the two and look for 3 lines.

I went through this when working on a 2.0l ford contour. I changed the belt for the customer and the belt was very tight to put on. I called the parts store to verify the part number. After several months the customer was complaining about belt squeal. I ordered the Ford OEM belt and it went on without any issues and was not tight top install. That belt lasted about 9 months before it started to squeal. I ordered a ford oem belt and tensioner and when I took out the tensioner it had pieces of metal and plastic coming out of it. I changed both and the customer never complained about the noise again. What happened was I forced the tensioner so tight it had broke it. That job cost me over 200 dollars parts because I didn't check the part numbers and forced on the belt that was not the correct size.

The aftermarket mfg's will not make a belt that is specific to one vehicle or engine. They will look on their list of belts they already make and if they find something close. Then all they will need to do is enter make a few clicks of the mouse and they can add a belt for your car. The stores like it also because they don't need to stock a belt only for a Nissan rogue. Now the belt can be sold for many different cars. This goes for spark plugs and a lot of other parts. Just be aware sometimes you just need to spend the money on OEM parts.

dreamydreamer
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Thanks guys.
The mechanic at Pep Boys told me that the belt actually seems too loose. I think I may just go to the dealership this weekend and get a genuine Nissan one installed. I don't feel comfortable going back to that small repair shop anymore. I'm crossing my fingers that the dealership don't tell me that something else is broken.

Seca750RUS
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Hi all,

Same issue here with the squealing replacement serpentine belt. It's not the wrong belt, but WRONG INSTALLATION! Read on for the FIX.
And no, you don't need a new A/C compressor, you need a new mechanic :)

So I just put on a new serpentine belt on my girlfriend's 2010 Nissan Rogue a few days ago. The old belt had 105k miles on it and the ribs were getting rather cracked.

Anyways, since the install, it has chirped slightly on every startup. Today, she was driving around in the rain and using the A/C to defog the windows, and the belt was squealing very loudly.

So I looked into it; Turns out I routed the belt wrong! As with any drive belt, the TENSIONER HAS TO BE THE LAST ITEM that the belt runs over, before returning to the main crank pulley. On the Rogue, (and I assume all other Nissans with the QR25DE 2.5L engine), the belt CAN be routed incorrectly to go over the tensioner pulley BEFORE "pulling" on all the other accessories. Therefore the belt tension at the accessories is reduced, leading to the dreaded belt squeal, especially as the accessories are loaded.

Long story short, I re-routed the belt, and no more squeal!

The correct routing is as follows: Looking at the crank pulley from the right wheel well, the pulley turns clockwise. The belt first "pulls" on the A/C compressor, then straight up to the alternator, then idler and waterpump, and FINALLY around the tensioner and back to the main crank pulley.

Hope this helps! :)
Ivan


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