About the word "Ricer" or "Rice rocket"

[gniknave]

Would you consider it a racial slur?

My ex/girlfriend/whatever and I were talking about it. I was driving and saw this "riced out" Civic, and I said something along the lines of "That car is str8 rice!". She asked me why people call it "rice". I explained it to her, and she said "Wow, that sounds kind of racist. What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?" I think she had a point. I'd probably be a little offended by a statement like that. What do you think?

[Florida240sx]

Yea but the second comment is targeting one race.First comment doesn't matter who drives it.And relates to the car not the person driving it.Just like people call my car a P.O.S. but yet they can't keep up with me.I don't get offended I just shove it in their face."Hey man your car just got smoked by a P.O.S. that's stock" Told you those stickers don't make you go faster, nor do those neons or space shuttle wing.

[gniknave]

So then that makes me ask...What's your definition of "Rice"?

[HashiriyaS14]

I think it definitely has some racial connotations, but I don't think that I'd go so far as to call it a slur per se. I think the tuner movement has sufficiently branched out to the point that the term "rice" or "riced out" isn't necessarily something that anyone associates automatically with people of the asian race.

If, for instance, it was only asians who had these sorts of cars, then I think it'd be more offensive, because it would be a term specifically attached to one group of people, but as it stands, that's not really the case. It's more just attached to one group of cars, and ironically, these cars often needn't even be asian in origin.

[Graphfixz]

What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?"

man, this makes yet anotehr thread where I don't understand more then half of what is being said. What does she mean? What does 22's collard greens mean?

I need to move to a city with more slang... or maybe change my crowd!

back on topic:I am kind of leaning on 'rice' is a look.. a style and not a nation/people/person. However, I WOULD get offended if someone were to say... 'Hey man, that car is a spanish ricer with beans!'

[gniknave]

What does she mean? What does 22's collard greens mean?

She was saying someone calling a Buick on 22's "collard greens". A popular dish in the African American culture is collard greens.

[bobotech]

Rice only has racial slurs becuase it was directed at the import cars of the 70's that were starting to invade. I remember heariing people like my step-dad refer to imports as "rice burners". They were never directed at the people but rather the car. The car being from an asian country where rice is a popular food and can be fermented and made into a crude fuel.

Now that isn't directly attacking a person or persons, its attacking a car, huge difference between calling an asian a "chink" and calling an inanimate object a "rice burner". You are directly attacking a persons feelings and values with "chink" but you aren't with "rice burner".

The term rice burner then migrated to "rice rocket" over the years. To 95 percent of people it has nothing directly to do with the asians who drive the cars but rather with the fact that the cars are created by an asian owned company and which are done up in overblown and cartoon like modifications.

So calling a car a rice rocket isn't a racial slur in nearly the same sense as calling an asian a "chink" or calling a black person, the big "n" word.

Rice rocket was never a racial defining term for people but rather cars and since cars don't have feelings, you can't insult them directly.

I find the whole new thing that people are starting to say "OMG he's calling a car a 'Rice Burner, that EVIL RACIST" to be so over the top and stupid that its pathetic.

If you are insulted that someone is calling your car a "rice burner" then grow some thicker skin and buy a Ford for crying out loud. Or make your "rice burner" faster and more powerful than Billy Bog Ray's 1989 Chevy Camaro Z28 with the blue and white paint job with dual glass pack mufllers. and embarass him!

But get a life if you are so senstiive to having your car referred to as a rice burner.

[Florida240sx]

My definition of rice: Anybody who makes their car looking like a UFO with no performance mods and think they can beat me.Upgrading your cosmetic appearances and thinking they are the most bada$$ car out there.The person who owns this car and thinks they know every aspect of a car but are wrong about everything.Told this one kid my speaker wires were shipped from Japan because they will give you 15% more output power level on my speakers.Rice is the form of being in a car that has cosmetic mods and no performance but you think it's fast.If you just did cosmetic mods because you want them and understand it doesn't make you faster then props to you. Rice is when the driver talks mad **** which is all wrong and all his buddy's beleive him which then a new group is formed of retards to misinform the rest of the population.I can continue if you like but hopefully you get my point.If not I will continue.

[The Mic]

when somone says “ricer,” it’s not to be taken literally. It’s just meant as a general insult. Like when 1der says "you're gay".

[bobotech]

What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?"

Thats a guy referrring to the Person behind the drivers seat, a direct insult to the persons racial heritage. You aren't referring to a car by calling a buick a "collard greens" you are referring to the person.

I call cars "rice rockets" all the time when I see big winged fugly lowered dubbed imports and even some american cars. Its now a style, not a racial insult.

If collard greens was a term for buicks, it would be in the same boat as rice rocket, but its not, thats comparing apples and oranges.

[gniknave]

So to sum it up, it's kinda like using the word "ghetto". It's a look or action, not a direct insult -- though ghetto could be used as one.

[Graphfixz]

She was saying someone calling a Buick on 22's "collard greens". A popular dish in the African American culture is collard greens.

AHHH!!!

thanks!

[Graphfixz]

yea... um... I don't get it.

It all looks the same to me but then what do I know?

Words are 'bad' words because of the meaning behind the meaning. In other words if you look to an old dictionary they have the word f**k in there. It means (in my own words) a form of planting/seeding crops. I, growing up in the fields, have done this a lot so I am familare with how f**k is used.

However, today the word f**k is a bad word and the meaning is not at all what it used to be. So.... if 'ricer' is meant with a hidden meaning then yes, I think it is a no-no. It is all to the person who said it to check their inner gizzards and find out what they are truly mean by it…. And that may be as innocent as a new born baby!

all in all.. just my less then .02$ worth!

[Jesda]

"Rice" is about a car and its origins.

I guess the equivalent would be to call a Buick a tater.

[Slappy]

get over it and let it go.

[gniknave]

get over it and let it go.

Excuse my curiosity on my boring day at work.

[The Mic]

get over it and let it go.

pot, kettle, black...

[ForsakenTH]

i think it may have started back in the day as a derogatory remark, but it has evolved into something else. Rice doesnt even always refer to imports anymore. there are many riced out cavaliers and neons. its more a style of tuning. you have muscle cars that embody brut force, and then you have rice which embodies aesthetic apperence. who is to say that one way is the "proper" tuner way...its just a different style. to each his own.

[Graphfixz]

Excuse my curiosity on my boring day at work.

hey, yo too? Must be working for the same company in different cities!

[Slappy]

pot, kettle, black...

hahahahaha...

[Mr1der]

I like the sound of Greeners....

[sensibleS13driver]

the rest of the nation has not yet been hit with the "scraper" trend. Out west however there is quite a subculture sorrounding them, wow that was cheesy.

as in: "this ain't an SL nothing its a Scraper mang"

[The Mic]

What? Must be a norcal thing... like hella....

[gabossie]

wtf are you talking about???

[The Mic]

the rest of the nation has not yet been hit with the "scraper" trend. Out west however there is quite a subculture sorrounding them, wow that was cheesy.

as in: "this ain't an SL nothing its a Scraper mang"

Yeah, wtf is he talking about?

He's in Berkley...

[JimmyMethod]

Would you consider it a racial slur?

My ex/girlfriend/whatever and I were talking about it. I was driving and saw this "riced out" Civic, and I said something along the lines of "That car is str8 rice!". She asked me why people call it "rice". I explained it to her, and she said "Wow, that sounds kind of racist. What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?" I think she had a point. I'd probably be a little offended by a statement like that. What do you think?

It could be contrued that way, but I was having a 'discussion' about the validity of Japanese cars as high performance vehicles...I, of course, won the argument, that, they were most definatly capable sports cars, but he still said he prefered the deep throaty growl of a V8 compared to the high pitched "Rice in a Blender" sound of japanese cars (specifically with a custom exhaust).

Intruged by this simile, I tried itWith 1 and a half cups of rice and my 7-Speed Blendmaster on 'Puree'...it DOES sound like it...Therefore, it's NOT a racial slur, it's just a description of the sound it makes... Rice is still PC, hurray!

[MinisterofDOOM]

Would you consider it a racial slur?

My ex/girlfriend/whatever and I were talking about it. I was driving and saw this "riced out" Civic, and I said something along the lines of "That car is str8 rice!". She asked me why people call it "rice". I explained it to her, and she said "Wow, that sounds kind of racist. What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?" I think she had a point. I'd probably be a little offended by a statement like that. What do you think?

It's funny that a lot of the posts in this thread have nothing to do with the question you asked...

Allow me to answer it with a simple (and semi-rhetorical) question:Does a car have a "race?"

For Rice to be racial means it has to be related to race (I hate to use the word, but: "duh"). It is not. It may HAVE BEEN once. It's not anymore. I can assure you, american and european cars can be just as rice as asian cars. Five-year-old Saturns are the newest Civics, really. And even BMWs are seeing the rice now.

When the word rice originated (in the context we are discussing) it simply meant a Japanese car. ANY Japanese car. From a Suzuki Sprint to a Nissan President. It was from Japan. In Japan they eat rice. Nothing derogatory. That, coupled with the horrible taste of youthful people, led the meaning to evolve into "cars with stickers and other pointless garbage, from japan." But then, of course, we started seeing people with Cavaliers/Sunfires and Neons doing the same thing. Then came the Ford Fu...er Focus and the Shaturn.

It has NOTHING to do with race. How can it be a racial slur if it's unrelated to race? That's like saying me calling someone an a$$hole is a racial slur. Even if it was an insult (I consider rice an insult most of the time--and I mean it that way most of the time, too. Rice is worse than "pointless overboard tasteless ****" to me, and I use it accordingly) it's not race-related in any way.

A "slur?" No more than "you're a dumbass" is a slur. It's an insult. Not a slur.

[w1ngzer0]

Would you consider it a racial slur?

My ex/girlfriend/whatever and I were talking about it. I was driving and saw this "riced out" Civic, and I said something along the lines of "That car is str8 rice!". She asked me why people call it "rice". I explained it to her, and she said "Wow, that sounds kind of racist. What if a Japanese guy called a black guy in a Buick on 22's collard greens?" I think she had a point. I'd probably be a little offended by a statement like that. What do you think?

i like collard greens but when i see a buick like that no matter what the color i always call it ghetto bling

[dal2kvvisp]

Scrapers a norcal thing, its where you have some some beat up late 70's early-mid 80's buick, cadilac, mercury, etc etc with a big system, candy paint, and rims costing more than the car.

It's never to be confused with a beater, and vice versa.Oooh! cant forget the Whistle tips! its not a scraper unless it has whistle tips... The hot thing to do with a scraper, is show up at the Oakland sideshows, all 4 doors open, people hangin out jumpin up and down in the car, attempting to whip em, gettin hyphy, another norcal thing alltogether

All this is probably still not gonna make any sense to most people.

[gniknave]

Scrapers a norcal thing, its where you have some some beat up late 70's early-mid 80's buick, cadilac, mercury, etc etc with a big system, candy paint, and rims costing more than the car.

It's never to be confused with a beater, and vice versa.Oooh! cant forget the Whistle tips! its not a scraper unless it has whistle tips... The hot thing to do with a scraper, is show up at the Oakland sideshows, all 4 doors open, people hangin out jumpin up and down in the car, attempting to whip em, gettin hyphy, another norcal thing alltogether

All this is probably still not gonna make any sense to most people.

Yeah I think they get the point. NorCal is crazy