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Used Brand Name Exhaust From Local Forum > Everything Eles



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Dittoz7 wrote:Used Brand Name Exhaust From Local Forum > Everything Eles
easier said than done for me. I live in Bay City, MI and it was hard enough just to find a 240 to buy around here let alone "local" used parts. lol but yea if that stuff is available than yea, its BA

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of course. they just really isn't any place to buy parts like that around here. I dont mind the ebay stuff though, it's served me well so far lol

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I got a 3" exhaust from intensepower.com (same as the ebay ones) and it sounds nice and fits perfectly.. My friend has a 93 240sx with a HKS Hi-Power exhaust and they sound almost exactly the same... Mine alittle bit louder because I have a test pipe.

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Tsukiko wrote:I love my 3" ebay "knockoff". dirt cheap shipped, no aesthetic issues, no rust at all yet, going on a year and a half or so.

Yes, its a bit loud, but extremely mellow and fairly deep.

And I heartily support "knockoff" products that give these overpriced companies a run for their money. S***s ridiculous. Sorry but as someone who drives on the street the majority of the time, a $300+ titanium exhaust is silly unless you have the funds to throw around. Thats what the free market is all about.

In other words, GTFO, noob. Go spend $600 on a catback for your otherwise stock car. Oh wait... You're 17. I hope your Burger King wages can afford "real" aftermarket parts.
HEY man... I'm 17. Not all 17 year olds are like that. I totally believe in buying cheap parts. Hell I even make my own parts as often as possible. While it would be cute to have band-name parts all over my car I'm just fine with function over looks. That's what JDM is all about.

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zachattack_5491 wrote:That's what JDM is all about.
JDM is all about Zip Ties

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pflicht wrote:JDM is all about Zip Ties
dude no doubt. in the spring im taking out all the bolts on my front bumper and replacing them with zip ties lol

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bigs wrote:Stop buying knockoff ****! Support real aftermarket companies!

What you pay for is what you get. I had to learn that the hard way, and I only buy brand name stuff now. It's worth it to save up for quality parts.

Modified by bigs at 1:50 PM 11/29/2008
Now I can say I probably spent a helluva lot more on my car than you, and to some extent it's true that "you get what you pay for", and that's where it becomes important that you learn the difference in where, what and how you spend your money on. I can tell you this because I probably have more experience than you (not only on this subject) that sometimes you can decide to do otherwise. I had a "Brand" name cat back, Apexi N1 Dual to be exact and it was beautiful when I got it and lasted hmm about year and half maybe a bit more... but guess what, the bulk of the system (1st and most of the back sections) is made from mild steel. Guess what happens to mild steel over time when it's exposed to high heat, water and the elements? if you said rust and corrosion you'd be absolutely right and, add that to a lowered (NOT SLAMMED) DD car, when you hit s**t, guess what? It breaks! yup so there goes your beautiful BRAND name $800 Exhaust...Ouch! I've had my duplicate E-bay duals (cost a third of the brand, delivered) for over a year and they're holding up fine. The fitment was slightly different but not so much it couldn't be corrected or used. And, it made of Stainless Steel throughout, so you can re-weld cracks because the steel is corroded or rusted away. I've bought my share of E-bay items and to categorically claim all items sold on e-bay is junk, or all e-bay stores sell only junk is totally bogus and not true! While some may be bogus , if you have a have a wit you can tell which they are. But there are also high quality sellers on E-bay that stand by their products and deliver. So watch it with the e-bay Bashing! We can talk about brand names and their worth in another thread, but it's about economics, not necessarily quality. I work in advertising so I know a little bit about marketing and brand development. When you by a brand name, I've done my job, you're sold.

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thanks for ALL of the feedback lads, i'm getting paid tomorrow so i'll be buying my exhaust realll soon! hopefully i'll be a bitchin one, haha

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have you purchased one yet? be sure to post back your review!

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my mommy needed some money ASAP, so i gave her all that i had. which wasn't alot, but enough for the exhaust. but soon! haha.

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Tsukiko wrote:I love my 3" ebay "knockoff". dirt cheap shipped, no aesthetic issues, no rust at all yet, going on a year and a half or so.

Yes, its a bit loud, but extremely mellow and fairly deep.

And I heartily support "knockoff" products that give these overpriced companies a run for their money. S***s ridiculous. Sorry but as someone who drives on the street the majority of the time, a $300+ titanium exhaust is silly unless you have the funds to throw around. Thats what the free market is all about.

In other words, GTFO, noob. Go spend $600 on a catback for your otherwise stock car. Oh wait... You're 17. I hope your Burger King wages can afford "real" aftermarket parts.
i see wut ur getting at about some companies being overpriced and others trying to make stuff for cheaper. ex. HKS, Greddy, Apexi, Blitz. however buying bottom of the market **** that is hit or miss everytime doesnt make sense either. the most embarrassing thing is that more than half of 240/sivlia owners have absolute garbage exhuasts and are satisfied with that, im in NZ right now and its even worse with almost every vehicle it seems having these crap 140$ exhaust systems... i believe that you pay for wut u get completely. and yes i rock a Blitz nur spec tip with custom stainless pipes and do u kno wut else. the car will sound mean as F***. i dont see why your bringing age and stuff into the equation either. im 18 my car has a 2j and is worth 3 to 4 times more than yours and that doesnt even factor in the 7k i spent on my sportbike. so ya pretty much u can FO for thinking that u have to be 25+ to have a deecent car, make deecent wages or for that matter have better taste, because obviously he does and u dont. end of story.

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zachattack_5491 wrote:I totally believe in buying cheap parts. Hell I even make my own parts as often as possible. That's what JDM is all about.


some cheap parts are fine, like the exhausts in this thread, but dont build you car around your little theory you got there.

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heres the bottom line, if you are paying $300+ for an exhaust just because it will SOUND better, thats pathetic. a 3" exhaust is a 3" exhaust, there is no getting around it. yea Greddy, HKS, Tanabe, JUN, etc make BA parts, but there is no reason that an exhaust should cost that much, i mean honestly, how much research and testing does it actually take to make an exhaust?

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silvia_ks_69 wrote:
i see wut ur getting at about some companies being overpriced and others trying to make stuff for cheaper. ex. HKS, Greddy, Apexi, Blitz. however buying bottom of the market **** that is hit or miss everytime doesnt make sense either. the most embarrassing thing is that more than half of 240/sivlia owners have absolute garbage exhuasts and are satisfied with that, im in NZ right now and its even worse with almost every vehicle it seems having these crap 140$ exhaust systems... i believe that you pay for wut u get completely. and yes i rock a Blitz nur spec tip with custom stainless pipes and do u kno wut else. the car will sound mean as F***. i dont see why your bringing age and stuff into the equation either. im 18 my car has a 2j and is worth 3 to 4 times more than yours and that doesnt even factor in the 7k i spent on my sportbike. so ya pretty much u can FO for thinking that u have to be 25+ to have a deecent car, make deecent wages or for that matter have better taste, because obviously he does and u dont. end of story.
Well wasnt it real nice of your mommy and daddy buying you these toys! Youd think with all that money your parents have they wouldve bought you a real exhaust and not just a fart can. Youve probly never even got dirty from working on your own car. And im sure youve never had to worry about paying bills before you bought something for your car cuz mommy and daddy take care of that **** for you too.

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actually its called not being a complete retard with your money and working your fcukin *** off. umm yeah pretty sure custom stainless from turbo back is a real exhaust. seeing as how companies big name companies dont make kits for a 2j swap. so wuts the differnce if i put a universal tip on. the car will perform just the same. and it will sound the same or better. also about me never working on the car. i have an entire build thread on this site that maybe u should go check out before u open your mouth again.

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silvia_ks_69 wrote:actually its called not being a complete retard with your money and working your fcukin *** off. umm yeah pretty sure custom stainless from turbo back is a real exhaust. seeing as how companies big name companies dont make kits for a 2j swap. so wuts the differnce if i put a universal tip on. the car will perform just the same. and it will sound the same or better. also about me never working on the car. i have an entire build thread on this site that maybe u should go check out before u open your mouth again.
im not a "retard" with my money and i work as much as i can, but im still having trouble. and you obviously didnt deny living with your parents and what not...just saying. but since your saying "Blah blah blah i see people with crappy exhaust, blah blah blah" and you have nothing better than any ebay exhaust, just a "name brand" muffler. EXHAUST IS METAL PIPES AND MUFFLERS TO TAKE THE ENGINE EXHAUST AND GET IT OUT FROM THE ENGINE AND UNDERNEATH PASSENGER COMPARTMENT. So what if its crappy. The flexpipe exhaust on my grand am works just fine. Also, your statement that "it will sound mean as F***" doesn't help your credability. who cares what your car sounds like as long as it performs good.

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is it really that serious??

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so u guys didnt live with your parents when you were in highschool? thats pretty sad. and actually i live in new zealand at the moment with a roomate. yeah ok, show me an aftermarket company that offers, 2jz to S13 rear and id be happy to buy it just in spite of wut u just said because you obviously dont kno wut your talking about when it comes to custom swaps considering you said it has to take from the passenger side and underneath the body. ok well last time i checked 2jz's have there turbo on the driver side and the piping needs to cross by the transmission.my credibility? im not here to defend my credibilty, i dont really care wut u think of me to be quite honest, i was just sticking up for the kid that was getting bagged on for being apparently 17 and ricefanboy. k lets move on to performance then... why dont u go look at my page, read it from start to finish and tell me that im not goin for performance. zer...age=1 the car is setup to have a tune of 500whp. now id be very curious to see wut your at? [QUOTE=sjbsuperman1425]

EXHAUST IS METAL PIPES AND MUFFLERS TO TAKE THE ENGINE EXHAUST AND GET IT OUT FROM THE ENGINE AND UNDERNEATH PASSENGER COMPARTMENT. So what if its crappy.

its called actually taking pride in something that your building.

The flexpipe exhaust on my grand am works just fine.

lol im sure it does. u drag that thing too?

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PASSENGER COMPARTMENT, meaning where you the driver and passengers reside while the car is in motion. the whole reason for an exhaust is to move the exhaust from the motor, and out the rear of the car, so the occupants don't get all ****ed up on fumes.

and im not criticizing you, im just saying, why care what your car sounds like if you have a 2JZ anyway? we are talking about EXHAUSTS here, not "hey come look at my 500hp 2JZ". i was merely saying, exhaust is exhaust, a 3" pipe is a 3" pipe, just because its Blitz or Greddy doesn't mean they give you an exhaust 2hp.

i do take pride in my car, you usually do when you work hard for your car without the help of your parents for anything other than a roof over your head, but i am NOT going to spend a S*** load of cash on an exhaust if when i lower my car its gonna scrape the ground and get dents and what not. its not worth it.

and im sure if the economy where i lived was even HALFWAY decent, i'd have a good 300hp engine by now. Since i live in the US, and Michigan's unemployment rate is higher than the national average, its kind of hard to find work. and i never said there was an aftermarket company for 2JZ exhaust systems. quick acting like your engine/swap is special, its been done before just like RB and LS1 swaps. yea its badass, but its nothing someone else hasn't tackled before.

and as for my Grand Am, yea i drag it its the fastest automatic 3.1L in the city

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well im done arguing here. i see wut ur saying. but u still cannot think that blitz tip is the same as ebay stuff. if uve ever looked through the end of it ud see why there is like 0 restriction of air to give u that fart can sound. and ya 2j's have been done before, but ive not seen one in US/canada yet in a silvia or to the extent that im goin. so ya there are alot of issues that people have not covered before. there is a 180 in quebec but most of his stuff is stock.

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silvia_ks_69 wrote:well im done arguing here. i see wut ur saying. but u still cannot think that blitz tip is the same as ebay stuff. if uve ever looked through the end of it ud see why there is like 0 restriction of air to give u that fart can sound. and ya 2j's have been done before, but ive not seen one in US/canada yet in a silvia or to the extent that im goin. so ya there are alot of issues that people have not covered before. there is a 180 in quebec but most of his stuff is stock.
i actually thought of buying a name brand muffler and getting a custom catback made, but it doesn't seem cost efficient for me to do it that way, thats mostly why im going ebay. Plus the company i've gotten my exhaust from so far is very good quality for "ebay" standards and im very pleased. Good luck with the build!

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thx. thats big of u. if a company has good rep and stuff and they actually make good products then go for it, if you dont have alot of cash then thats prolly the best way to go. if i could go back and use less known brands and still have the same result i prolly would because id be done by now. i kno wut that feels like, cuz my *** is absolutely broke at the moment from the cost of moving over here and squaring off my tab at the shop. i just cant stand the companies that try and pass themselves off as reputable and then wut your left with is something with poor fitment and terriblbe craftsmanship.


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