abandoning the vg, going VH.

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Haven't posted in a while. Took the time to really evaluate my situation, and financially, I cannot afford to build my vg engine and reinstall it. I'm going to be selling all of my vg engine stuff which equals 1 complete engine and one.longblock worth of parts. I had high hopes for it, but it's looking like a grim future for the VG in the z.

With all that stuff sold I can then start up the VH swap. Going to be buying a complete vh with low mileage fully dressed locally for around 500 bucks, getting the trans adapter from mazworx or elwesso, raising the hood to make way for the intake spider, buy the VHperformance engine mount kit, and a new VG TT clutch and flywheel of the buyer doesn't get mine.

I'm hoping for the best..my personal situation has sucked, I've managed to get kicked off Tt.net and I wish I hadn't, and I've been trying not to become a life failure. . I'll be seeking refuge from hybridz for swap info.. reason for posting this is just an update for the few that might care slightly about a fellow z owner.. My z has seen better days. I just want to drive again and an affordable engine is a good way to start. Here goes nothing, take 5


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Also, I've abandoned my idea of having super wide wheels, and will be looking for 350z track wheels..I'm maturing fast.

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You should make a large forsale thread with pictures.

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We have all been there at some point, whether it is cars, girls, family, money, etc....keep your head up and that is what were here for.

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You 21 yet? You need a beer.

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Yeah I'm 21 now. I'd go for a beer, but I think I need some god damn moonshine.

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And that's why I'm glad to be in TN. They sell decent stuff on the shelves here, but if you know where to look, you can get what's basically pure ethanol, lmao.

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first of all im going to say is ive followed your posts over the last couple years, you had a bunch of "ideas" and "attempts" at your "project Z32" .......

why not just sell ever thing off and go buy a cheep running NA Z32????????? :frown:

it takes cash to play in the Z game and im not trying to be an A$$Hole or claim to know anything about you, but it seems like you dont have a lot of extra finances to just to get a VG running , not to mention a VH swaps ect. (from past post) again im not trying to figure you out just trying to help.

my two cents, sell everything off that you have from your parts collection , save 4 grand for a nice running NA and smile everyday driving :biggrin:
TTkickedin wrote:Yeah I'm 21 now. I'd go for a beer, but I think I need some god damn moonshine.
Ace2cool wrote:And that's why I'm glad to be in TN. They sell decent stuff on the shelves here, but if you know where to look, you can get what's basically pure ethanol, lmao.
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a new hobby i just picked up, Ace knows what im talking about :ohno: :rotflmao :naughty: ;)

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You know, I'd love to see your setup. I've been thinking about trying my hand at making mash.

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If I sold everything I got, id have enough to get a VH running...which is what I'm doing now.

The situation is much deeper than you can infer from my posts. A lot can contribute to a lack of motivation from my posts. Much of that is not being physically allowed to work on my own car in my own dads shop, then not being able to move it elsewhere due to cost. The other is that my manual block needed to be checked by a machinist and I dont have enough for that.

I have enough to keep it and make payments. By selling the VG s*** and my current exhaust, I'll have much more than enough to get a VH in it.

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All people tell me to do is sell the car, but in its current state being that I still owe a few thousand on the car, selling it isn't an option. Getting it running then selling is what I plan to do. Around here. Getting it running with a VH would sell for quite a bit, especially with the other things I got going into it.

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Dude no disrespect but you need to reevaluate your priorities if you still owe on a car that is immobile and in pieces. Maybe right now isn't the time in your life to be messing with cars, maybe you should settle for a nice 2000 civic or corolla until your situation improves. This is coming from someone who has been in your shoes more than once, it took me 7 years to get my Z running well because i was always broke through college and then paying off some hellacious debt after. I'm just sayin man, you're 21 think about your future and how badly you could screw it up if you don't take a step back now.

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NolimitZ32 wrote:Dude no disrespect but you need to reevaluate your priorities if you still owe on a car that is immobile and in pieces. Maybe right now isn't the time in your life to be messing with cars, maybe you should settle for a nice 2000 civic or corolla until your situation improves. This is coming from someone who has been in your shoes more than once, it took me 7 years to get my Z running well because i was always broke through college and then paying off some hellacious debt after. I'm just sayin man, you're 21 think about your future and how badly you could screw it up if you don't take a step back now.
+1, couldn't say it better.
When I was your age I had to walk away from my '67 Mustang GTA with 600+HP motor I had built all because it wasn't running, and I had no other car or way to fix the Mustang due to piling up bills, lack of good job/motivation/funds, and the reality of life priorities.
To this DAY I wish I had never ended up that way and done that as I'd have a real serious cash cow by now, but on the other hand all the good things in life that happened after that would not have happened either (FAR better than my previous life...), including finally being able at age 40 to get a nice Z32 NA and then now 9 years later a really nice TT.
By now I can handle all of the ins and outs of owning a Z32 and have some experience doing that within my actual means day to day, and month to month, etc., which is where you need to be to do the things you talk about.
Otherwise the whole thing will spiral down until you just have a pile of parts and non-running Z, and no way to deal with that with life's realities always at the door...

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I still owe on an immobilized car. That, if sold, would immobilize me financially and I can't afford even the cheapest car until that debt is paid off. Believe me when I say that selling it or giving up and not getting it running so it can sell for more, and make me have no debt, is probably the worst to happen.
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I can't just magically sell this thing the way its sitting. If I did, id still owe 90% of what I owe.

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Mind if I ask what you owe? oh and for a bit of history, I grenaded the trans in my WRX 1 month after taking out a 12k @ 10.95% loan on it, scraped up every penny I had, sold everything I could out of my garage and ate nothing but ramen for months to get a good drivetrain for it. Fastforward 2 years, engine throws a rod bearing, I spent $4k which I had been saving for the Z and then some for a new engine, turbo (because that was bad and i was rolling it like that), clutch, etc. to get the car back on the road so I could sell it. After which I spent another 14 months or so recouping the debt I had gotten myself in while trying to fix it to sell it for more. Sometime you just gotta cut your losses Eli, sometimes its better to take the debt that you know you have and make a plan to get out of it rather than plan on getting out of debt by accruing more debt. It very rarely works out how you plan it man. trust me I'm 27 and almost completely bald due to three things in my life, debt, cars, and women, the latter two are responsible for the first lol. Once again not trying to put you down or turn you off your enthusiasm for cars just trying to share the benefit of my experiences to prevent others from making similar mistakes.

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No doubt do not lose your love of cars and your Z, just you gotta find a realistic way to make this all work out the best way possible, and without getting too crazy in the process which IMO a vh swap is craziness at this point.
Best case scenario is you keep your Z as-is for when things get better and you can get back into your rebuild, and meantime SOMEHOW work out transportation and earnings towards paying the loan and surviving ramen-style until the clouds clear.
We've all been through the s*** Eli, hang in there and work it out.

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Sorry I haven't actively been responding to the comments. i appreciate the support you guys have given me, and believe me, if it wasn't for that, this car would've been long gone 2 years ago when the motor gave way.

That said, I guess I'll be more realistic in saying that selling my engines and starting with a JDM VG is probably the next cheapest option, and throwing a VH in is even cheaper than that will be. I have a plan to get it done, and its really up to time at this point, not even money. I'm buying the custom mounts my next payday, and Putting 100-200 away each pay period so i can get the VH trans adapter (unless my engines sell, then i'll be able to buy everything right then.)

This plan seems financially legitimate. under 1000 will get me a VH, mounts and adapter. My friend can modify my exhaust to fit the VH manifolds in exchange for my circuit slicks or under 200 bucks... I have Assets that just need to sell, and when they do i'll be much farther out of this hole i'm in! i'm keeping optimistic about it, i'm really not in that bad of a situaiton thanks to my career. If I lost my job, then i'd consider the selling of my zx. I just don't think i'm in much of a jam to warrant that.

Also, forgot to mention. I started a car club locally, and will begin selling stickers and merchandise soon. So that, plus the potential sale of my VG s***, and the automotive electrical work I do on the side, I should have some decent cash flowing my way really soon, and a running 300zx VH by mid summer. I'm assuming. i know it seems like i'm taking a gamble trying to get my car running (spending more when i already owe on it,) but I can afford it now, no reason for me to give up just yet!


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