A speeding ticket from Seattle but i live in BC Vancouver???

[dudealex]

hey guys... what a happy news ..i got a speeding ticket while on the way home from Seattle highway to Canada boarder.I got it fined for 183$$ US .. The police bike caught me.. and there weren't even a speeding rdar signal on mine... Anyone know how could he know my speed and knowin that i was speeding????

The question what i'm concern is will it go into my British Columbia's record of speeding and points off???and do i have to pay it?? cuz one of my friend said that i don't cuz hes friend got one and never paid and they never track on him.

[Ever Victorious]

As in you have a radar detector but it didn't go off?

Those are mostly useless here in WA... we use LIDAR extensively, and those very few detectors that see LIDAR... well, when you hear the warning, they've already nailed you.

You DO have to pay it... if you ever want to go in WA state again. Failure to pay the ticket means they can impound your car if you ever come through again.

However, as I understand, tickets "earned" in the US do NOT count against your driving record up there. The same is NOT true of tickets "earned" in Canada by US drivers.

[dudealex]

Hey

As in you have a radar detector but it didn't go off?

Those are mostly useless here in WA... we use LIDAR extensively, and those very few detectors that see LIDAR... well, when you hear the warning, they've already nailed you.

You DO have to pay it... if you ever want to go in WA state again. Failure to pay the ticket means they can impound your car if you ever come through again.

However, as I understand, tickets "earned" in the US do NOT count against your driving record up there. The same is NOT true of tickets "earned" in Canada by US drivers.[/QUOT

As in you have a radar detector but it didn't go off?

Those are mostly useless here in WA... we use LIDAR extensively, and those very few detectors that see LIDAR... well, when you hear the warning, they've already nailed you.

You DO have to pay it... if you ever want to go in WA state again. Failure to pay the ticket means they can impound your car if you ever come through again.

However, as I understand, tickets "earned" in the US do NOT count against your driving record up there. The same is NOT true of tickets "earned" in Canada by US drivers.

Hey .. I am appriciate your reply~!!!I actually have a very accurate radar.. its Valentine One (quite a popular one) can't believe that didn't work..but what is LIDAR?? Also for the point off ..how does that work ?? so does that mean now i basically have a violation record in police record? and is there certain amount of point in US to take away??

[MinisterofDOOM]

LIDAR is the laser equivalent of Radar.

[cireecnop1]

Okay, on the subject of not paying your ticket. It has been my experience as a Communications tech that we will impound you! not your car. you dont pay that ticket or dont show up for court (depending on whether it was a summons or a citation) you get a warrant. so if you come back into the state that it originated from and a trooper or any law enforcement runs your plate you get stopped and arrested. I would definately pay it.

and also,....most of our Troopers are trained to calculate your speed by points of reference, In Colorado the radar isn't required for proof of speeding.

[kc5f]

and also,....most of our Troopers are trained to calculate your speed by points of reference.

True in most places. A friend of mine once told me about his training, and then told me, "This car's going xx mph" and then verified it on radar, and repeated it many times. They're actually pretty good at what they do.

The real question: Why do people only think they were speeding if a police officer can "prove" it with radar or whatever? If you were speeding, you know it. (If you don't know it, you shouldn't be driving!) So if you get stopped, why not just be honest about it? Might even get you a warning instead of a ticket when you come across as confrontational! (Worked for me!)

[Ever Victorious]

Hey .. I am appriciate your reply~!!!I actually have a very accurate radar.. its Valentine One (quite a popular one) can't believe that didn't work..but what is LIDAR?? Also for the point off ..how does that work ?? so does that mean now i basically have a violation record in police record? and is there certain amount of point in US to take away??

As was mentioned earlier, LIDAR = laser radar. Pinpoint accuracy with the ability to determine speeds of objects at the speed of light. It is basically unbeatable. Your only defense against it... don't speed.

As far as points, they work differently from state to state. Since you are licensed and insured in BC, it depends on how your system up there works.

But as a couple examples, in some places in the US, points are bad (infaction/violation points) and when you get too many your license is suspended. In other places (like WA) points are good... (safe driving points), and you lose them for accidents and tickets. Lose all your points and your insurance rates start jacking up x amount per point negative you go.

Okay, on the subject of not paying your ticket. It has been my experience as a Communications tech that we will impound you! not your car. you dont pay that ticket or dont show up for court (depending on whether it was a summons or a citation) you get a warrant. so if you come back into the state that it originated from and a trooper or any law enforcement runs your plate you get stopped and arrested. I would definately pay it.

It all depends on jurisdiction. Where he got his ticket (WA state), they can't/won't jail you for failure to pay your ticket. What they can and WILL do is impound your vehicle, revoke your license, and send you to a collection agency for the delinquent ticket. So not paying a ticket in WA is actually way WORSE... because it damages your credit score and can get your car hauled off and your license taken away.

If you were speeding, you know it. (If you don't know it, you shouldn't be driving!) So if you get stopped, why not just be honest about it? Might even get you a warning instead of a ticket when you come across as confrontational! (Worked for me!)

This man speaketh the truth. I've been pulled over a couple times before and simply fessing up got me off.

Edit: As a side note, for anyone traveling in WA state on I-5 or I-90... there is a 3-year emphasis patrol on speeding from Snohomish county to the Canada border, until the Olympics have passed through Vancouver. Also, we use a LOT of "unfair" cars to nail speeders. There are a couple Volvo V70 wagons, and now 6 Dodge Chargers/Magnums (all blue or gray), plus a 25th anniversary Camaro, all as unmarked patrol cars.

Plus we have a lot of tall bushes and motorcycle cops.

Just don't speed on our major highways here, You WILL get nailed.

[versabundus]

There is something you can do. I have one of these in my Crossfire. Don't need it in the Versa.

http://www.lidatek.com/

[Jemdawg]

Pay your tickets, go to court, don't avoid paying the consequences for a moving violation, you'll end up without your license and a ridiculously high insurance payment.

[cireecnop1]

wow that seems like such a rip off, that lidatek stuff. the officer will have the lidar pointed at your car already, while he is hiding in the bushes, when he turns it on its because he thinks that you are already speeding. so your little sensor will go off telling you to slow down. then you would potentially 'slam' on your brakes making it completely obvious that you were speeding. besides the officer that is 'lidar'ing you, is not the person that will chase you down, there is almost always another officer in his car waiting to take off and pull you over. Try not to speed, or if you do dont be the front 'pace' car, stay in the middle.

[JPack]

It's probably cheaper to replace your license plates. What is it, $18 from ICBC?

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It's probably cheaper to replace your license plates. What is it, $18 from ICBC?

Thats correct...just change your plates.

However, if someone ever checks you DL# (another ticket in WA or someone at the border) then you'll probably be in a cell.

[marleyfan]

Geeez.....just pay the damn ticket

[cireecnop1]

You sped, You were caught, You should pay the ticket. Im sorry but working for a law enforcement agency, I feel that it is rediculous to try and get out of anything that you were caught doing wrong.don't get into anymore trouble then you already are.

Just out of curiousity was it a summons? or a Citation?

[Ever Victorious]

In WA, it's always a citation, A court date is printed on the ticket. Failure to either pay the ticket or show up automatically gets you sent to the collection agent. If 90 days pass, you are eligible for impound and license revocation.

In WA you can go to your court date and if you have a clean driving history, you can request a deferral. The ticket will then be deferred, and if you do not get another infraction within the next year, it is dismissed and does not go on your record. If you DO get another infraction (or an accident), you are automatically considered guilty on the original infraction and are required to pay immediately.

Deferrals work well if you are a safe driver and you just did something stupid. You just have to be extra careful for a year.

If your record is NOT clean, you cannot request a deferral... best to pony up, because we don't throw out many tickets in this state unless you can prove that the trooper was lying on the ticket or something like that.

BUT since you're from BC, it won't go on your record anyway. Just pay the ticket and be thankful that you got off easy.

[redtop91]

They wont get you. Just PLEASE!!!!! DONT!!!!! GO!!!!!! THROUGH!!!!! SEATTLE!!! EVER!!!! AGAIN!!!!!! Go around. They put out a warrant for your arrest. Don't go through their jurisdiction and you SHOULD be fine. Make sure you

[Ever Victorious]

They wont get you. Just PLEASE!!!!! DONT!!!!! GO!!!!!! THROUGH!!!!! SEATTLE!!! EVER!!!! AGAIN!!!!!! Go around. They put out a warrant for your arrest. Don't go through their jurisdiction and you SHOULD be fine. Make sure you

He said highway back home to canada. That means he was caught by the state patrol, which means ANY jurisdiction will know. He would have to avoid the whole state.

Pay your ticket.

[proxim2020]

I'd be very careful about not paying the ticket. Although there's no connection between US and Canada in regards to simple violations, you could be in serious trouble here in the US. Normally if you don't pay the ticket, you'll be set up with a court date. If you don't show up to court, there's normally a warrant out for your arrest for failure to appear. I'm not sure if failure to appear warrants apply, but it could be entered into to NCIC (National Crime Information Center). If you're ever pulled over anywhere in the US, you'll be ran and will pop up in the database. Since you have the warrant, you'll be arrested and not let go until everything is satisfied. Since it's a cross state thing, it may take a while. You're going to be paying impound fee, the ticket, and the warrant fees (which can increase over time). Pay the ticket. Look at it like this. You're paying $183 to support the hard working men and women who keep EV safe.

Here in Houston, radar, simply pacing behind a car, or even passing a cop is sufficient for a ticket. Since a cop knows how fast they were going and you passed them, you get a ticket. You can't argue with that.

[cireecnop1]

No FTA's or failure to appear warrants do not go into NCIC. If it was a Trooper that pulled you over, in our case that warrant would be valid for only our jurisdiction. which is still all of Southeastern Colorado. depends on who pulled you over and what there limits for extradition are.

by the way, well done proxim2020, I was impressed that you even brought up NCIC.

[redtop91]

He said highway back home to canada. That means he was caught by the state patrol, which means ANY jurisdiction will know. He would have to avoid the whole state.

Pay your ticket.

State Police dont use bikes do they? . I dislike the Police for personal reasons. Most Cops (in my experience) are rude and arrogant and speed themselves off the clock.

[Ever Victorious]

State Police dont use bikes do they? . I dislike the Police for personal reasons. Most Cops (in my experience) are rude and arrogant and speed themselves off the clock.

Maybe YOUR state police doesn't, but WA and CA do. Probably others. WSP just got a dozen new BMW police bikes. They still mostly use cruisers and/or undercover cruisers.

And what cops do on their own time is not relevant to the situation here.

[redtop91]

And what cops do on their own time is not relevant to the situation here.

But I enjoy taking shots at the Po-Po

[cireecnop1]

CSP Has Harley Davidson bikes.Officers that make Officer of the quarter get Dodge Chargers with the Hemis in them. Should see them throughout the agency soon!

[proxim2020]

by the way, well done proxim2020, I was impressed that you even brought up NCIC.

Thanks. I wasn't to sure about the failure to appears. I have 2 cousins that are cops, moms works in the court system(probably should have checked with them before posting), and I watch tons of FBI and Forensic Files. I'm very interested in that kind of stuff.

I know the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a couple of Hayabusa that they actually use on the road. They were 2 bikes that had been seized in a drug bust I think and they decided to convert them into patrol bikes. Lights, sirens, the whole 9. Very Cool.

http://www.pbase.com/wingman26...atrol