knightrider wrote:why does everyone always jump in with, well dont bash hondas cuz a know a guy thats making a million hp on 87 pump gas with 70 psi on a t8600 turbo in his civic. we are bashing hondas because 99.99% of them are driven by retarded kids who think that thier grocery getter with cut springs is a race car. i know a guy that has a honda that makes power, but there are a million and a half other ppl that make that guy ashamed to drive his honda around because of the image that everyone instantly has when they see him driving a honda. hondas are ok cars, and can be built into a decent car, but honda ppl are stupid and know absoultly jack about cars.
I hate to even entertain this thread, but it is true and I can relate to this story in my old days of street racing when mostly fools with their souped-up honda cars decide to call me out because my car was different than the rest. They would look at my car and immediately assume that they can clean me up because my car didn't appear technologically advanced.
Case and point, I have some good friends who are die-hard honda car lovers who think they are the best thing since BMW. I've watched the younger brother dumped over $20k on a CRX with a sleeved 91 integra B18 engine to include pistons, rods, cams, crank work, oil pump, blah, blah. I had the honors of installing that set-up into his CRX and I'm not even a honda buff, but I did it for him. He would eventually have a haltech E6S installed for over $5000 by a serious builder and tuner here in south florida, but would only get a chance to shortly enjoy it before he had to cut his losses and move on. His most notable win in racing, was him beating an ex-friend who had a bluebird SR20DET swap that I also had the honors of installing. Well, this friend's bluebird swap will last him 3 years of straight abuse before his SR20 lost it's oil pressure and eventually will be the demise of his project.
So the same friend with the CRX sold the remainder of the car, but he was so determined to beat my old sentra, he sirprised me soon after with a 1993 RX-7 that he purchased for over $10,000 from petit racing. He would go and beat-on the friend with the SR20DET powered 200sx and even beat my woman's troubled 1990 nissan sentra. Her sentra was the silver one I crashed back in 2k2 and it's problem was getting all the boost in the world, but would not pick-up power for nothing in the world. I once thought it was my JWT re-worked computer, but it was not that.
Immediately after smoking that silver sentra, he called out my red/1987 nissan sentra which also had a JWT re-worked 1988 nissan pulsar ecu and though the car had significant lag, I knew this fool was about to get taxed. We went to the same spot where he cleaned-up my girl's sentra and we did our dead-stop race. He jumped out quickly on me, but I had no problem reeling him in and stretching him out a few car lengths over just a tad past the 1320. He would later blow this engine, get tired of the RX-7 and go back to his honda roots. He surprised me again with a brand new honda S2000 and I knew I was in trouble.
This infamous race with his Honda S2000 can be sen all over the internet via google searches, street fire, and a gang of other video hosting sites. We all would go the track in April of 2k2, to watch me run the sentra for the first . To make this long story short, I would race him from a dead stop and clean him up again and that's with a re-worked T25 and very little experience at tuning standalones with no dyno time. I'm pretty sure you all have wonderful stories like this and there isn't enough cyberspace to tell them, most kids and a gang of adults that own honda cars or suvs be clowning with their fake-@ss wanna-be fast cars and trucks. They really drive them like they stole them and in some cases it is pathetic. Even my co-worker with his RSX have to bow-down and kiss my 1.6 liter 4G61T powered Hyundai Elantra's butt.
If I strip my car to the weight they have theirs, I'm pretty sure there would be less hondas cleaning-up on anyone. But I guess that's why they all use the hatch cars, huh? I don't see a whole gang of 10 sec. accords and preludes or even acura TLs and RLs running around .
Dee