97+ Q45 transmission filter replacement

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Gurus, please comment on subj.

see my post at:

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....20552


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According to the 2000 Q Service manual pictorials there is a similiar looking metal screen filter attached to the valve body bottom just like those on 90-96.

A few paragraphs about checking the pan for metal and cutting the filter open for examination of different types of metals and what each means if found inside.

The are additional filters inside [especially one for torque convertor lock up clutch and solenoid].

The changes in design seem to have helped as we have not had any problems with units but we have only about 22 - 97 and later customers.

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So it looks like the Grubbs service guys were wrong, there is the same type of filter that can be replaced.

Fred...:)

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Q45tech wrote:According to the 2000 Q Service manual pictorials there is a similiar looking metal screen filter attached to the valve body bottom just like those on 90-96.

A few paragraphs about checking the pan for metal and cutting the filter open for examination of different types of metals and what each means if found inside.

The are additional filters inside [especially one for torque convertor lock up clutch and solenoid].

The changes in design seem to have helped as we have not had any problems with units but we have only about 22 - 97 and later customers.


Great. So, do you still suggest to replace the screen after flush and how much time does it take? They quoted over $400 for this which seems not real.

Btw, where can I get service manual for 97+ Q?

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The 400 dollars was clearly about those additional filters inside the transmission and not the pan filter.It takes les than an hour to do this and the filter/gasket kit is similiarily reasonable.

Fred...:)

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There's a 97 manual on eBay now if I remember correctly.

Also, Joe at Scottsdale has access to them I think.

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It's no longer a single manual after 96, two big thick books, the 2002 is 3 big thick books........see why CD rom now....just massive amount of testing proceedures with newer cars.

The dealer service computer uses symptoms to zero in on the problem....you do x,y,z test then it narrows the problems down more test more test.............current vehicles are way too complicated to train techs in a single week long school like was done in 1989.........the 94 changes took two weeks to cover and 1996 OBD2 added another week........they had to go to interactive diagnostics or the techs would constantly be in school and get no work done........

Every post 1995 vehicle owner should have their own OBD2 scanner and at least a list of the few hundred common codes. To determine the criticality [immediately to the dealer or can it wait a week]

Old ODBi had 17 + 10 codes for engine and transmission currently there are over 300 to chose from soon over 2,000 individual levels will be checked..........very very bad, very bad, functional but out of spec, normal, extra good, and way too good something is definitely wrong and about to explode will each have a subcode display.

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Yeah, I've seen 'em on ebay. But I remember you guys blamed those CD manuals. Which one to buy? Any post 97 manual is O'k for me or I should go specifically for 97?

Dennis, what is you estimation for the filter replacement job?

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1.5 hours plus parts [plus 3 quarts new ATF] including a hand cleaning of pan and magnet.

But then again somebody has to pay for the writeup, driving from the lot, putting on lift. taking off lift and back to lot, credit card fees vs cash, etc............2 hours would still be fair if that was the only item serviced during that visit.

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Thank you, Dennis.

Guys, do you recommend these CD manuals on ebay?I've some negative things about them here.

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The manuals are generic (and most likely bootlegged). Legal issues aside, they are absolutely no substitue for the factory manual. That said, they are perfect for printing out diagrams to mark on and take notes. It's much easier to work with loose-leaf sheets when your hands are greasy and it really saves on wear and tear on my FSMs, which cost a lot more. I have no problem spending $30 on generic CDs, but in my life my car is a pretty high priority and I'm averaging probably a few grand a year just on parts from Scottsdale.

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"my life my car is a pretty high priority and I'm averaging probably a few grand a year just on parts from Scottsdale"

25-30% off list is sweet!

Pretty soon you will take up my hobby of looking all over the city at broken Q's just for parts..........Mmmmmh they want a $1000 for the beat pig and I can sell the ABS, radio, and new alternator and breakeven then sell the rest to T3 for $700 profit less the tow and 4 hours of my time...........$500 cash.

The problem is you can't trust used old rubber isolated parts so somethings you gotta buy new every 60-100k.

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Q45 tech: too late--have thought about it many times, but the tow from LA to Georgia is a real killer, and turns the $500 profit into <$700> loss. Perhaps we could make it up on volume??


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