97 camaro wont take an 85 accord!! *****

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listen to this...my friend has a 97 camaro and thinks he is too good to take my brother in his 85 accord...now of course he can take my brother on a striat line...but we are talkin hair pin turns at 90. his car is obviously gunna spin around right? but my brother had done it before and knows he can handle it..wat do u think?


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Accord = 112 Hp, 1800 pounds.Camaro = 285 Hp, 3500 pounds.(Both estimates) IMO I think the horespower to weight ratios are both pretty good but in the case of a 90 degree turn id have to go with the Accord because of weight only really. I dont know too much about either car. It would prolly be pretty even id say.

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Camaro...which model are we talking about. If its the V-6 then the camaro guy has a reason to be scared of the almighty accord.

Shiat...I wouldn't mess with another car in tight turns, and my car has some really nice suspension goodies.

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either way the camaro will own the accord. Both the v6 and Z28 handle much better than an 85 accord. Your brother will get spanked time and time again whether we are talking straight line or the twisties.

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You know...I actually want to see this.

You better tape this, if anything the comic relief you get out of it will be worth it.

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maybe he just doesn't wanna **** up his car and it isn't worth risking it (90 turns at 90mph? pass), especially by proving something to some hold piece of **** honda.

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andrave wrote:maybe he just doesn't wanna **** up his car and it isn't worth risking it (90 turns at 90mph? pass), especially by proving something to some hold piece of **** honda.


I might actually read what you said if you excluded the explitives... no need for that. Calm down and refrain from using them.

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This is a trick question right?Umm, I know this one.... let me think

This is a joke right? It all comes down to the driver.

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i think that thats stupid and reckless... you guys obviously dont need to be driving like that... and your asking about a camaro vs. an accord... uhh.. yeah...

stay safe and keep it to the track:)

-Dan

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I actually didn't swear at all, I typed those asteriks in myself.hahahaha!

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well guys its a v8, and my brother is a sick driver, the camaro driver just got his license and already crashed goin onto an onramp..now who will win. IF he doesnt chicken out then I WILL VIDEO TAPE IT!

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and the biggest exhaust pipes...

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The camaro will win...97's can handle well also....

But the accord can fit more groceries and baby seats....

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twofourzeroSX wrote:listen to this...my friend has a 97 camaro and thinks he is too good to take my brother in his 85 accord...now of course he can take my brother on a striat line...but we are talkin hair pin turns at 90. his car is obviously gunna spin around right? but my brother had done it before and knows he can handle it..wat do u think?
If I'm reading your post right, and I like to think that I am, you're suggesting that your brother's 85 Accord can take a hairpin turn at 90 MPH... and not only that it can do it, but it has before.

If that's what you're saying, that an underpowered FF car can hold a 90 MPH hairpin turn, well then I have to see this for myself. I mean, OUTSIDE OF INITIAL D. (Cross reference the ITR in Ver 2 of the game taking the switchback Irohazaka course, 100 or so KMPH in the turns... aka what killed the game for me.) As far as your buddy spinning... it depends on how far he turns the wheel, how hard he hits the gas, when, where... ah, screw it... the only reason your friend will spin out is if he really sucks.

Really, man... there is NO reason your brother should be able to take the Camaro in any setting. Maybe in a dori-dori-dorifto mad-tyte JDM-style fuel economy competition, but outside of that, no way.

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theres no intelligence in this thread. Leave the kid and his camaro alone, He owns you.

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I swear.... some people must think that domestic sports cars have no steering wheel or something....

Have you ever driven a Camaro? If you had... I'm sure your opinion of an Accord owning it in the turns would quickly change.

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There are a few Camaros at the autocross in Indy. They may not handle as well as other cars, but they do handle making sharp turns. I would say this race comes down to the driver.

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Altiman94 wrote:theres no intelligence in this thread. Leave the kid and his camaro alone, He owns you.


he wrecked on an on-ramp, he doesn't own anything except a box of tampons.

He sounds like another story of a kid who can't control his power...

I'd suggest not doing it if you don't wanna see the retard die.

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I concur, one of the stupidest threads ever.

90 mph? You'd better be driving something that cost well over $250,000 to take ANY tight turns at that speed. I'm sure you (or your brother) are exaggerating. The Accord is lucky to achieve 90mph.

Both cars suck. I wouldn't drive a 97 Crapmaro if it was free. Worst seating position and visibility of any mass-produced car (well, except for other GM F-body cars). Nice quality construction too. :rolleyes

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yep I have to agree... I don't believe you

There is no way you can take a 90 degree turn at 90 mph in an 85 honda

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90 degrees isn't even a hairpin mind you.

my integra couldn't take a 45 maybe 50 degree at 85.

granted I'm not the best driver, but still...

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if the kid in a camaro is such a bad driver that he wrecked on an on ramp, why do you want to race him going 90 on a sharp curve?

it just seems to me that you are gonna egg this kid on and on until he says screw it, lets race, and he is gonna have an accident, hurting himself and possibly injuring the driver of the other car if they contact each other. On top of that, there is a good chance one or the other will be facing issues with the police... if the camaro driver "spun out" and hit a tree at 90 he will probably not survive, and your friend in the accord will have been street racing him at the time. That makes him guilty of involuntary manslaughter, if you didn't know that.

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^ good point. there have ben many times when some ******* in a F-Body or Mustang has acted like a jerk and i wanted to challenge them to a race where i knew the road and knew my car could outhandle them. then i stop and think that what if this ignorant guy who will do anything to save his masculinety loses control because his car cant handle. all thoughts of racing end there. you have to know when to pick your battles and that making everything even is not only good sportsmanship, but also much safer. i mean, would you take on an LeMans car in a truck on a mountain pass? i have taken many curves at 80+, but nothing close to a hairpin turn, im not that dumb. most of the curves i take are gradual and at a grade. i have taken a 90 degree turn at 50 though, and i almost lost the backend and slide into the median. i learned from my stupid ness and now take the turn at 45 ;) the moral is, you're both idiots, dont race, just play a nice game of checkers and settle it like men.

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Megaseth wrote:^ good point. there have ben many times when some ******* in a F-Body or Mustang has acted like a jerk and i wanted to challenge them to a race where i knew the road and knew my car could outhandle them. then i stop and think that what if this ignorant guy who will do anything to save his masculinety loses control because his car cant handle. all thoughts of racing end there. you have to know when to pick your battles and that making everything even is not only good sportsmanship, but also much safer. i mean, would you take on an LeMans car in a truck on a mountain pass? i have taken many curves at 80+, but nothing close to a hairpin turn, im not that dumb. most of the curves i take are gradual and at a grade. i have taken a 90 degree turn at 50 though, and i almost lost the backend and slide into the median. i learned from my stupid ness and now take the turn at 45 ;) the moral is, you're both idiots, dont race, just play a nice game of checkers and settle it like men.


Funny, thats about the same way my 240 got away from me and ended up kissing a light pole. Granted it was only 25mph MAX but it still @$)9ed her up.

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Ok lets end this thread!!! i get the point. what i ment by 90mph is the entry speed, then he slowes down and uses the e-brake, yes its skilled, so dont go dissing the accord........also i am back bein friends with this kid and we took a ride through these roads at about 45-50 (slower on the tight ones) just to see how they were in his car. with traction control i was impressed with his driving...without it i still think he'd loose it. anyway you are all right, it depends on the driver and conditions because on our way home we took a turn and my friend riding shotgun turned off the Traction control without the driver knowing it........we got loose. so how bout all of you stop getting so mad at me for posting this....you all have your points!

THANK YOU AND SRY FOR THE STUPID THREAD!

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twofourzeroSX wrote:what i ment by 90mph is the entry speed, then he slowes down and uses the e-brake, yes its skilled, so dont go dissing the accord


Using an E-brake when approaching a corner? Do you know anything about racing? An E-brake is not going to slow down a car very quickly and will likely cause the rear end to snap out if it's used while turning at all. It's not going to make the car handle any better.

Given good drivers in both cars, the Camaro will take an 85 Honda Accord. Actually, it should take just about any Accord. Stock vs Stock. While the Camaro doesn't have the best rear suspension, it does have some large sticky tires. GM does know a thing or two about handling. After all, they did bring out the Corvette. Personally, I wouldn't own a Domestic just for quality reasons, but they are to be respected on the road.

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and we all know how well the Vette handles :rolleyes

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C'mon!! I wanna see what Darwin pulls out of his bag of tricks on this one! I want a video dammit!!

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me thinks me smells a winner!


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