95 240SX/S14 seats for tall people question.

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Mishka
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Hello everybody!I have a problem with head clearance in my 95 240SX, I'm not that tall (6'1") but the car has a moon/sun roof. Because of that I have to keep the back of the seat in a low position. It's ok for cruising arround but sucks for more or less serious driving.What I'm looking for is a seat with a very thin botom part Has anybody any info on that, I think it would help a lot of guys with tha same problem.Thanks.


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Philsnotfalling
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I'm 6'4"... I have no problem fitting in my s13 or my friends s14. And unfortunately we are limited to what kinda seats we can install in our cars due to the oddly shapped floor pans. I believe the s13 seats sit alil lower... I think I might be wrong but I have s14 seats in my s13 so I don't know for sure. After market seats sit you way higher. do a search though I've read threads about the same stuff

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I'm 6'4" and had a 95 with a sunroof with not too much of a problem.. bumps could hurt but I could fit in without too much trouble. The passenger seat felt lower than the driver's seat for some reason.. but yeah, 6'1" should be "small" enough to fit in an S14. However, yes, if you really find it uncomfortable you should be able to get some custom mounts fabricated to keep the S14 seats (which I suggest, as they are real nice seats).

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Mishka
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Hey!Thanks everybody for the input. Compared to you I'm not at all tall, but still I hate to have a contact with my headliner. It's may be a much bigger problem with a helmet on. I remember there was an article on that in SCC a year ago or so. Dave Coleman put JIC seats in his s13, and in the ended up with the stock-like head clearance. I thought that Sparco Sprint would fix my problem because it seams to have very thin bottom part. But it has fixed back part wich would suck for daily driver.Still some more info wanted.Thanks.

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any aftermarket seats will rais you up because of the odd floor except the jic and brides. skyline seats fit fairly easily but probably won't help you out that much. your best bet would be to get some aftermarket seats and mount them right to the floor with a custom bracket without the sliders.

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i have a Sparco Milano in my 95. i made my own bracket to mount the seat. i took the back seat out and carpeted the area. there is no slide adjustment. i have it all the way back.it sits the same height as the stock seat but it is about 2-3 inches further back. my knee no longer hits the parking brake. the braket cost about 10 dollars in steel and some welding. the Milano is a comfotable seat.

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im 6'3 and im too tall. I would love to find something that would lower the seat and keep the slide adjustment. :(

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move the cat and pound out the bump in the floor, that's your only bet.

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is that, that stuff called sarcasim?

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not really, the only aftermarket seats that don't raise the height are JICs and brides (that i know of) and those only maintain stock height. going lower would require custom work. most notably, removing any obstacles like the hump in the floor.

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you mess with the structure in your car like that and we'll see how you like it when you slam into a wall sideways or someone felt like running a red light and plowing into the side of your s13. All of those bends and stuff in the floor pans are there not only for clearances for other components but also crush zones and structural rigidy of your entire car. lets get to beating the frame rail out of the way next huh.

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i hope there are no crush zones under the seat of my car. (actually i know there aren't but it's funnier that way) that hump really doesn't add any structural rigity to the car, not anything close to what the frame rail does. either way, when i first mentioned it i was half kidding, i never expected anyone to actually do it.

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well the floor is a crush zone and part of the structure. the windshield is as well thats why its urethaned in. With a unibody car every piece of sheetmetal is added strength to the overall stability of the car. lets say a car t-bones an s13. Aside from the obvious door damage the rocker... inner and outer, the b-pillar, the quarter panel, and occasionally the roof is also damaged. The floor is just not gonna get hurt in this type of accident? Ummm, the floor will fold and buckle under this type of strain. I've seen seat brackets even bent from an impact. More than likely the car will total out as it is not worth near the damage amount. However, a person buckled in is more than likely to survive,b/c everything is designed a specific way to move in a wreck around the drive and passangers, even under them. so you beat that out and weaken that metal b/c you stretched it, when you get hit on the side you'll prolly end up sitting on the passanger side of the car. I wouldn't trust that beaten out hump to hold me up in my seat. So mr all knowing about "beating of the humps" I'll call on you next time I need to straighten a floor under a seat, b/c its just funnier that way.

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it's a good thing my post count is lower than yours, otherwise that would have been really condecending.

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the fact is, there are no crush zones inside the cabin of any car. that's the last thing they want is for the passenger compartment to fold in. the crumple zones are in the front and rear of the body, that way the engine compartment/trunk collapses to absorb energy instead of the passenger cabin. they want the cabin to stay as intact as possible in any type of crash because when it deforms it usually injures the passengers.

and do you really think that piece of metal started out with that hump in it? no, it started out flat and the hump was stamped into it. changing the shape of metal doesn't necessarily make it weaker, often it makes it stronger. i.e. strain hardening.

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wow you are sooo smart thats why I'm gonna have you fix my car. I tell you what learn something and then reply to what I say.

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AMEN to that :)

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what's up guys are u guys done maybe buying a new car will do the trick

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I'm 6' 4" and have a S13 with a sunroof. Here's what i did:

1. Removed some seat foam like this:

http://miata.net/garage/headroom.html

and cut the backs of the sliders off and mounted the rear of the sliders directly on the floor pan.

These mods added about 1.5 - 1.75" of head room.

-VA240


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