95 240SX fuel gauge dead

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ok same 240 that had the transmission problem :D

also has a dead fuel gauge...

it stays at full all the time

is the S14 fuel tank the same as the S13 with the float and everything?? because from what I'm told the needle still moves occasionally but doesnt read fuel level properly

any other things I should check other than a stuck float??

thanks in advance-Malik


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is the coolant temp gauge stuck on cold all the time?

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NISTECH wrote:is the coolant temp gauge stuck on cold all the time?


nope the coolant temp gauge is fine... the cluster has been replaced before because the odo wet dead but this problem is relatively new

she says her mechanic checked the float to see if it was stuck and he said it wasnt

thanks

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you probably have a short to ground in the wire somewhere. grounding the circuit make the gauge go to full. disconnecting the circuit should make it go to empty. if it doesnt you have a short to ground in the harness somewhere. or a bad gauge. you should have access to the plug under the carpet in the hatch area.

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NISTECH wrote:you probably have a short to ground in the wire somewhere. grounding the circuit make the gauge go to full. disconnecting the circuit should make it go to empty. if it doesnt you have a short to ground in the harness somewhere. or a bad gauge. you should have access to the plug under the carpet in the hatch area.


cool I'll check that out when I get the chance

thanks alot :D I really appreciate it...

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What about a gauge that just doesn't read accuratly? My gauge has never gone all the way to full, and rather than going down slowly, it takes big jumps. I can't even use it anymore, I just have to go by milage. What should I check? Stuck float?

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gabossie wrote:What about a gauge that just doesn't read accuratly? My gauge has never gone all the way to full, and rather than going down slowly, it takes big jumps. I can't even use it anymore, I just have to go by milage. What should I check? Stuck float?
go to nissan pick up the o-ring for the sending unit in the tank cause the old one will swell and wont line up once you pull the sending unit out to test it.

under the carpet in the hatch area is an access panel for the fuel sending unit. detach it and lift it out of the way. the harness runs through this plate so you will need to unplug it to move it far enough. once its out of the way and you have the plug disconnected. go start the car run it till it dies. crank it a few more times. now your fuel pressure is released.

unbolt the sending unit by the 6 8mm bolts. lift the unit out carfully. it will be nessesary to fish it around a bit so the float will come out freely. once out reconnect the electrical connector.

now go turn the ignition to the on postion so the gauge registers. hold the unit up and allow the float to fall all the way to the bottom while holding it there look at your fuel gauge should read empty and if you have a low fuel level light it should be on.

next lift the float to the top and look at your dash should read full. then if both those checks are ok,very very slowly lower the float while watching your gauge . the gauge compensates for fuel slosh so it will not fluctuate as fast as you move your float so your speed of travel has to be extreamly slow so as not to pass the glitches.

If you have an ohm meter it is easier to find the glitches. you just prob the connector one the 2 pins for the float sensor.

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I unplugged the harnesses and the needle sank to the bottom, plugged them back in and it went to the usual position

so what do I do next? probe the two plug harness see if the ground is bad??

thanks NISTECH

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did you pull the snding unit out of the tank to make sure it isnt hung up on something in the tank. or do any of the tests out of the tank with the sending unit? what you did tells me your circuit is ok. so if the float is not stuck then the sending unit is bad.

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hey nistech; my s13 has had the fuel pump replaced but the gauge is wrong. it has been for about 4 yeares. i fill it to the top and the gauge reads inbetween 3/4 and full,and it drops at a staedy rate with fuel consumption but i cant get the light to come on at low fuel level. is this the same problem you have explained above or something different?

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allthrottlenobottle wrote:hey nistech; my s13 has had the fuel pump replaced but the gauge is wrong. it has been for about 4 yeares. i fill it to the top and the gauge reads inbetween 3/4 and full,and it drops at a staedy rate with fuel consumption but i cant get the light to come on at low fuel level. is this the same problem you have explained above or something different?


yours may be a gauge problem. do as he did dissconnect the units electrical connector and see if your gauge drops to the lowest point and see if the light comes on. then ground the wire for the sending unit at that connector and see if the gauge goes to max full. if it does then the entire circuit is ok from the tank to the dash and your gauge is ok. that would leave only your sending unit as the source of your problem.


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